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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 870

charmander6000 | Posted 3/10/2010 12:41:40 PM | message detail
Ryu is trying his hardest to stay above 56%.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 12:43:58 PM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #349
So Leon is the strongest RE character?


Yes. I don't think Jill would be too far removed from this percentage with a fair pic, but Leon most definitely does not have a fair pic.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 12:45:16 PM | message detail
Nice for Leon.I guess RE 4 really did a thing.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 12:49:15 PM | message detail
Well, he's clearly been the strongest RE rep since 2005. If he only drew strength from RE2, he'd have probably never made a contest and would be weaker than Claire if he had.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 1:04:26 PM | message detail
About FFVII trends: Before 2008, you'd have been hard pressed to find any characters that did better against them in the second half of the match than the first. Cloud, Sephiroth, and Vincent always ended at their highest percentages of the day. But in 2008, we started seeing first half = second half for FFVII, and in 2009 we actually did see the game lose about 1% with the ASV, showing a 2% decline from the first to second half. So I guess the point is that if you trust the Games Contest, then comparing to old FFVII trends no longer works.

The biggest shift between the morning and ASV that I can think of is Magus/Sandbag. Sandbag only won 1 hour in the morning, and with less than 51% I think, and then he put up ~59% over the ASV.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/10/2010 1:31:47 PM | message detail
Well, this is making me wonder how Leon would be doing with a fair pic.
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creativename | Posted 3/10/2010 3:03:27 PM | message detail
FF7 doesn't benefit from Kingdom Hearts like Cloud and Sephiroth, so I don't think you can compare the game's trends to the characters perfectly.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/10/2010 3:53:15 PM | message detail
This is all because Leon has a gun and he would just shoot Ryu.

I can guarantee you that some people vote with this logic. A lot of people, actually.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 3/10/2010 4:15:24 PM | message detail
A lot of people are stupid, then
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/10/2010 4:19:58 PM | message detail

From: GrapefruitKing | #359
A lot of people are stupid, then


Seriously, we ALWAYS seem to get topics that are just "WHY IS MASTER CHIEF LOSING HE WOULD JUST SHOOT SUB-ZERO." Also, if you visit the game's board on a day of a character's match, you get stuff like "WHY IS SHEPARD LOSING PIKACHU ISN'T AS STRONG AS A REAPER" and crap like that.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/10/2010 4:22:21 PM | message detail
Random facts: if we rank characters in each half division from 1-8 based on their X-stats on the winner of the division, the lowest ranked such character to win a match was Laharl. He's 7th and Neku's 8th (of course) in the Heart top half. This is unlikely to change with the remaining four divisions.

The highest ranked character to not win a match is Rikku, ranked 2nd in the Chaos bottom half. Crono could conceivably join her if Missingno. beats Sephiroth by an appreciable margin.

The only half division where nobody got screwed (ie, 2nd place is 2nd strongest, 3rd and 4th both won a match) is the Hyrule upper half, and there's a very good chance that Gear upper half will end up this way too.
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Japago | Posted 3/10/2010 5:00:44 PM | message detail
Nice to see Leon holding up pretty well. Leon/Ryu might be a good match next year after all with a good Leon pic.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 7:08:06 PM | message detail
Ryu is doing good work with the night vote, but these votals are very weak. Both Leon and Ryu may be strong, but they have relatively similar appeal and neither have much to do with Nintendo or Square. Guess that hurts.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/10/2010 7:16:22 PM | message detail
Still, I think you can make an argument that Team Capcom is the third strongest brand in these contests, behind Team Nintendo and Square!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 7:19:12 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #364
Still, I think you can make an argument that Team Capcom is the third strongest brand in these contests, behind Team Nintendo and Square!


Who else is even in the competition? Konami? And that's just Snake and Alucard, really.
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ZFS | Posted 3/10/2010 7:20:42 PM | message detail
Capcom definitely is, yeah. Mega Man, Ryu, Dante, Leon, MMX, Zero, Jill, Amaterasu, and Chris are all pretty good; Akuma, Ken, Wesker, and Phoenix Wright just add the total! They've probably got the third most characters in this thing, too.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/10/2010 7:20:57 PM | message detail
Don't forget Big Boss!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/10/2010 7:21:00 PM | message detail
And Big Boss! And Goemon once the day I win the Guru and he gets in here!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 7:21:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, Big Boss, but...would you take Big Boss to beat Ryu, Dante, or Leon?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/10/2010 7:22:02 PM | message detail
Big Boss Vs. RE Gaiden Leon could be a good match
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:22:16 PM | message detail
Goemon vs. Eddie Riggs

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/10/2010 7:22:21 PM | message detail
^5 noob Avenger

Team Nintendo > Team Square >> Team Capcom >> Team Konami > Team Sonic
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/10/2010 7:22:56 PM | message detail
Actually I bet Big Boss might take regular Leon too!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/10/2010 7:23:09 PM | message detail
Big Boss > Ammy, aw yeah
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:25:14 PM | message detail
Ammy is the definition of a good newcomer

Pre-match expectation: loses to Little Mac
Performance: Beats out Balthier and Ada Wong in Round 2

Not to mention the disbelief at her strength for three years running that wasn't dispelled until her match with Luigi!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 7:25:47 PM | message detail
I'd take Snake Boss over Leon. I might take him over Dante and Ryu as well if I were absolutely guaranteed he'd get a Naked Snake pic, but this is contest season and THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 7:26:35 PM | message detail
Man, I believed in Ammy after year one!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:27:02 PM | message detail
Naked Snake>=those three>=Big Boss

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ZFS | Posted 3/10/2010 7:27:23 PM | message detail
I'd probably take Big Boss over Leon, but not Ryu / Dante.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:27:31 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #377
Man, I believed in Ammy after year one!


So did I! That made the reactions all the better!

"How is she getting 35% on Crono. HER GAME GOT LIKE 5% IN THE GOTY POLLS"

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 7:28:11 PM | message detail
Still not convinced there's THAT huge of a difference between Naked Snake Big Boss and normal Big Boss. That round 2 performance in 2008 impressed the heck out of me.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 7:28:17 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #378
Naked Snake>=those three>=Big Boss


Are you considering the pic alone, or a name change as well? Ryu/Dante already seem to be worth about 55% on Leon, so that's a huge range.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:28:44 PM | message detail
Pic alone. A name change to Naked Snake would make for a considerable boost.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:29:58 PM | message detail
And I just kinda threw Leon in there. He loses to Big Boss, I guess.

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ZFS | Posted 3/10/2010 7:30:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, people will never stop overblowing Big Boss's pic. It might make some difference, but there's no day and night situation. He'll never revert back to, say, what he got on Auron even with a melty pic. He's far too known nowadays for that.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/10/2010 7:31:26 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #378
I'd probably take Big Boss over Leon, but not Ryu / Dante.


I'd agree with this. Especially when Big Boss keeps getting new games and Leon seems to get all his strength from the awesomeness that was RE4(which, various ports or not, is still a game that came out in 2005).
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/10/2010 7:44:35 PM | message detail
Match CIX: (1) Solid Snake vs. (5) Pikachu

Last Round

Solid Snake – 67.03%
Fox McCloud – 32.97%

Pikachu – 61.01%
Commander Shepard – 38.99%

Analysis

While normally this match would be an easy win for Snake this being the sprite round adds a little spice to the match. Solid Snake won’t lose, but his Solid **** picture is legendary while the last time Pikachu got a sprite was during the fiasco against Dante and Leon. If this was a normal match I would expect Pikachu to perform slightly better than what Fox was able to accomplish last round, but all that is left to do is see how much the picture affects the results.

I never understood the people who used Pikachu’s previous match as a way to show that he is weaker this contest. Sure Shepard performed better than expected, but anyone who thinks that Shepard is anywhere near his previous self is kidding themselves. Mass Effect 2’s advertising campaign was huge, almost similar to Halo 3. If the release of Halo 3 boosted Master Chief from a mid-card to getting 47% against Solid Snake then it is quite possible that Mass Effect 2 could boost Shepard from high fodder to a mid-card.

I can see why some people play down Pikachu though. Pikachu hasn’t had a fair match in which he’s proven that he is a near-elite. Personally I think Pikachu is a step lower than the other Nintendo near-elites, but with the success of Pokemon so far this contest it is possible that the rat has boosted, especially with a hyped Pokemon game coming out in less than a week.

The last time we’ve seen Solid **** Yoshi was able to break 42% in 2006 and Kratos reached 39% in 2007, but that was with L-Block. Since then Solid Snake has likely boosted in terms of strength, but how much of it will be retained with a sprite picture? Solid Snake is likely to break 60%, but it is possible for Pikachu to over perform with the way Pokemon has been looking this contest.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Solid Snake > Pikachu

charmander6000’s Prediction: Solid Snake wins, 60.63% - 39.37%

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 7:49:35 PM | message detail
I just realized, Snake and Pikachu both had sprite round matches against L-Block, in 2007 and 2008:

Snake: 53.12%
Pikachu: 52.53%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 7:52:27 PM | message detail
Hmm...Pikachu's other sprite round match was...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2916

...SNAAAKE

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 7:57:35 PM | message detail
Charizard just got 61% against L in the sprite round too, which if you remember, projected him to 55%+ on Auron and Squall based on HK-47.

Snake still won't lose (I think), but more fuel for the fire!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 7:58:59 PM | message detail
And Ryu is making a run at 57% here......hope he gets it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/10/2010 7:59:56 PM | message detail
Fox had 38% at the freeze.

Here's to Pikachu giving Snake a scare during the first five minutes.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/10/2010 8:08:02 PM | message detail
Argh I hate you all
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 8:09:24 PM | message detail
Here's hoping Snake has 75% at the freeze!

And goes up on the second update!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 8:09:24 PM | message detail
The people here still believe that Fox is stronger than Pikachu, right? At best, I'm willing to generously say that Pika might be Fox's equal. Fox got 33% on Snake in a weekday night match, so I'll be attributing anything above and beyond 33% for Pikachu to the picture.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/10/2010 8:09:47 PM | message detail
The people here still believe that Fox is stronger than Pikachu, right?

Not so sure about that myself.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/10/2010 8:10:35 PM | message detail
People think Fox > Pikachu?

I'm sure the opposite would be the heavy favourite.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2010 8:14:42 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #397
People think Fox > Pikachu?

I'm sure the opposite would be the heavy favourite.


There's more recent and viable evidence that suggests Fox > Pika. In 2007, a Pikachu that may have been momentum-fueled managed 43.3% on Luigi in a 4way match. One year later, Fox managed 45% on Yoshi. Not a huge difference, but Fox's performance is still better. Of course, there's also the fact that Fox performed a metric assload better on Captain Falcon than Pikachu did, and yes, there's a limit to how much even CAPTAIN FALCON can increase in one year.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2010 8:14:50 PM | message detail
I'd probably pick Pikachu>Fox.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/10/2010 8:18:51 PM | message detail
I dunno about Fox/Pikachu. I think I'd go with Pikachu because he looks stronger indirectly and rSFF is a once in a few years kind of thing. A doubling is hard to argue with though.
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