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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 869

RPGuy96 | Posted 3/9/2010 7:56:06 PM | message detail
There's a reason red sox and others call the Europe vote/dead zone the FFVII total domination zone. It tends to bleed over to all FF characters.

And of course we know about the Philippines and Zelda characters, and they comprise most of Asia, so there you have it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 7:58:36 PM | message detail
Match CVII: (1) Cloud Strife vs. (4) Captain Falcon

Last Round

Cloud Strife – 71.99%
Chris Redfield – 28.01%

Riku – 47.52%
Captain Falcon – 52.48%

Analysis

Other than to see the results of pairing one of the worst board votes with one of the best there isn’t much to talk about this match. Is Captain Falcon as strong as his numbers suggest or has Riku dropped in overall strength? We may never know due to this being a night match, but at least we didn’t end up with another SFF match giving us another contest where we don’t know Falcon’s strength.

Cloud was able to redeem himself by defeating Chris by more than he defeated Ridley proving that it was just Ridley looking half decent. Captain Falcon may be a decent mid-card, but so was Chris and look at what happened to him. Cloud is on a different planet compare to most of these characters and unlike Link Cloud has so far had an easier route to the finals though that will change starting in a couple of rounds.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Captain Falcon performs worse than Chris, especially considering that this is a night match. I know that some people are hyping that Falcon will have the lead at the beginning of the match, but considering how much stronger Cloud is I can only see that lead lasting for a few seconds.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud > Riku

charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud wins, 72.21% - 27.79%

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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/9/2010 8:02:09 PM | message detail
What does Cloud need to get to keep the Samus > Cloud hype train at full strength?
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/9/2010 8:04:39 PM | message detail
Is the Philippines Asia or Oceania on this thing?
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:05:29 PM | message detail
Keep in mind earlier: I said holding Zelda and Phoenix constant with their 2008 numbers gives Zelda a 61%~ victory over Jecht today. That's not much of a difference than what we're seeing here. I'm very pleased Jecht broke 40% here in this match, but I'm hesitant to chalk all this up to FFXIII because he's still an unknown.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 8:06:31 PM | message detail
Jecht broke 40% in a day match. Did you see that morning vote against Ratchet? This is pretty impressive.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2010 8:06:34 PM | message detail
The Philippines counts towards Asia.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:22:55 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #356
Jecht broke 40% in a day match. Did you see that morning vote against Ratchet? This is pretty impressive.


Zelda's day vote against Ezio was pretty unimpressive though. Yeah, I know AC's got a great day vote, but Zelda's supposed to have one, too.
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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:27:30 PM | message detail
My god. How can you honestly be hyped for Zelda Wii? Just go play Twilight Princess -- I promise you it will be 99% the same.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 8:28:39 PM | message detail
And TP was not very good.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 8:29:40 PM | message detail
TP was the best Zelda game yet.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:30:04 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #316
Laugh if you like, but we saw GameFAQs explode when SSBB released and FF13 was the next most hyped game ever since. We saw FFX beat FF3/6 in a FF-poll soon after it was released, and FF13 is the biggest FF-game since then. Master Chief in 2007 with Halo 3 and Mario in 2002 with SMS are good examples too.

It's hard to tell for certain if Jecht is benefiting from the FF13-explosion starting today like FFX, MC, or Mario to some degree...but it should be clear that we've seen these things before and it's certainly not unreasonable. Square's stock in general is up and will be for awhile. The vote-in and vote totals are strong enough arguments against this, but let's see how Cloud, Sephiroth, and Tifa do later this round. They should tell us more about whether or not FF13's helping here or not.


Yeah. The thing about FF13 is, most people probably won't start coming for help on the game until a few days after release. Falcon's kinda iffy and Sephiroth's against Missingno so who the hell knows what will happen, but at least Tifa/Big Daddy should give us a good indicator about the presence FF13 will have on this site.

If it's big enough, then between it and Zelda sucking, there might actually be a reason for the Cloud > Link clamoring to return!

From: HaRRicH | #320
It is at UT-Knoxville, but not many other local places in TN.


And it always surprises me how many fellow Knoxvillians I encounter on the internet.
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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:30:08 PM | message detail
I still don't understand how the exact same game can be released 10 times and still have legions of people swearing it as the best game series ever.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:32:07 PM | message detail
TP was pretty good, so I wouldn't mind playing another game like it. It's not like there's many people complaining about Galaxy 2!

Of course, I'd prefer Wind Waker 2 myself!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:32:59 PM | message detail

From: CJaM613 | #363
I still don't understand how the exact same game can be released 10 times and still have legions of people swearing it as the best game series ever.


When you achieve perfection the first time, it'll be perfection the other nine times you release it!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2010 8:34:26 PM | message detail
Is it Spring Break for you guys? I know all of the high/elementary schools around here are out now.

The high schools in my area are not on Spring Break.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/9/2010 8:34:37 PM | message detail
Wow, a Jecht Shot from hell into Zelda's performance here. This isn't the same princess who put up 57% on Aeris (and think of how close Jecht would get to that mark with the benefit of a full 24 hours...).

Tifa v Zelda? Aerith v Zelda?
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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:35:14 PM | message detail
The action/adventure genre has been done much, much better than Zelda. Sorry.
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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:36:00 PM | message detail
Aeris would beat Jecht.

Also Tifa would probably 60 - 40 Zelda at this point.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:37:45 PM | message detail
I'm confident Tifa would own Zelda pretty hard at this point.

And it always surprises me how many fellow Knoxvillians I encounter on the internet.

Wait, you're from Knoxville...? Whoa.

For the record, Zelda needs 37.48%+ next round to get Jecht > Tidus.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:38:43 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #367
Wow, a Jecht Shot from hell into Zelda's performance here. This isn't the same princess who put up 57% on Aeris (and think of how close Jecht would get to that mark with the benefit of a full 24 hours...).

Tifa v Zelda? Aerith v Zelda?


More like Aerith v Jecht!
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 8:40:17 PM | message detail
In Knoxville, there are four months of UT-football and eight months of "Let's see what's good on the internet."
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Draco1214 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:41:03 PM | message detail
So...Jecht or Altair? Vivi?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:41:40 PM | message detail
I definitely wouldn't take Jecht to beat Vivi. I think he could have a good match with Altair though. Dunno who I'd take there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2010 8:42:16 PM | message detail
If Captain Falcon breaks 30% tonight, will that mean anything at all for Snake's (who put up 67% against a much stronger Smasher) chances against Sephiroth?
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/9/2010 8:42:16 PM | message detail
6 months of football. Half the city follows spring ball too. Same with Columbus. But we get 8 months of sports. 4 months of Buckeye football, then 2 of Buckeye basketball, then 2 of spring ball, then 4 months of depression.
CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:43:05 PM | message detail
Vivi would clearly smoke Jecht -- but Jecht probably beats Altair considering what Ezio got relative to Jecht. Again though it's close enough where it could probably go either way depending on the time of day the poll is at.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 8:43:26 PM | message detail
I like the Zelda series a lot (I'd call Zelda 1, LTTP, Ocarina and Link's Awakening perfect games, and I also love Zelda 2), but anyone who denies Curt having a good point here is being stubborn. The Zelda series is the same game 10 times. Also, gamers are the worst type of people. If a series stays the same, people whine it's too much of the same. If it changes, people whine. If the series doesn't release new games for a long time, people whine. I'd hate having me as an audience.

And TP as the best Zelda is laughable. Zelda has always been highlighted by good dungeons, but in TP you have to do SO MUCH GIMMICKY SIDE CRAP for the first half of the game. It isn't until you enter the Arbiter's Grounds and start dungeon-hopping that the game stops being garbage, but even then it's meh. The original characters in that game are all terrible. Ganondorf and Zelda were shoehorned into the game and are still better than everyone else.

It's a perfect microcosm. Nintendo is good when they stick to old hat, but completely falls apart whenever they try anything new. This is not a coincidence.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:43:38 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #375
If Captain Falcon breaks 30% tonight, will that mean anything at all for Snake's (who put up 67% against a much stronger Smasher) chances against Sephiroth?


If Falcon breaks 30% against Cloud in a night match, I'll be very impressed with the guy. He's certainly come a long way since 2006, that's for sure.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:44:16 PM | message detail
Man, who plays Zelda for the original characters?
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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:45:01 PM | message detail
I would say Falcon is clearly stronger than Fox at this point after his performance against Riku.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:45:02 PM | message detail
Apparently we thought everyone did in 2007!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 8:45:11 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #380
Man, who plays Zelda for the original characters?


No one, which is why having them forced on me for SO LONG in Twilight Princess sucked. They weren't even done well.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:45:38 PM | message detail

From: CJaM613 | #381
I would say Falcon is clearly stronger than Fox at this point after his performance against Riku.


I'd take Fox to beat Riku without a second thought.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 8:46:16 PM | message detail
Fox would have been the easy favorite over Riku pre-contest.

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CJaM613 | Posted 3/9/2010 8:48:13 PM | message detail
I loved OoT, but I stopped playing Zelda games half way through Majora's Mask when I was like 'something is familiar about this...'

You guys might enjoy playing the same game 10 times with slight updates...but not me. Unless it's a sport games because then the updates are necessary.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 8:48:20 PM | message detail

And TP as the best Zelda is laughable. Zelda has always been highlighted by good dungeons, but in TP you have to do SO MUCH GIMMICKY SIDE CRAP for the first half of the game. It isn't until you enter the Arbiter's Grounds and start dungeon-hopping that the game stops being garbage, but even then it's meh. The original characters in that game are all terrible. Ganondorf and Zelda were shoehorned into the game and are still better than everyone else.


So you complain that Zelda games are more of the same, but then complain about the original stuff in the game?

The organic nature of the first part is the the best part of the game!
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FFDragon | Posted 3/9/2010 8:49:26 PM | message detail
The kids in TP all had down syndrome and it was creepy and made me feel bad while playing it.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/9/2010 8:49:46 PM | message detail
As for Falcon vs. Fox... I'd take Fox.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2010 8:52:46 PM | message detail
I think 4ways can prove zany pretty often, but

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2872

ummmmmmm yeaaaaaah

With regards to the Zelda series, I think it's doing the most critically acclaimed series ever a disservice by saying it's the "same game 10 times," especially when dealing with the 3D console entries. Ocarina, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker are about as varied as sequels typically get for a series that re-uses the same main characters (ie. every bigtime gaming series other than Final Fantasy).
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:53:09 PM | message detail
I actually liked Midna. Sure, she was obnoxious, but she was actually decently developed and by the end even likable. Plus it's nice when they actually add a new character that doesn't suck. I'd rather have another character like Midna than a character like Navi or Tingle.

It would've been nice if they actually gave Zelda and Ganondorf something to do besides play their token roles, though. Both were great in WW but were pretty much tacked on here for tradition's sake.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 8:53:38 PM | message detail
That poll is giving me the finger.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 8:54:12 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #391
I actually liked Midna. Sure, she was obnoxious, but she was actually decently developed and by the end even likable. Plus it's nice when they actually add a new character that doesn't suck. I'd rather have another character like Midna than a character like Navi or Tingle.

It would've been nice if they actually gave Zelda and Ganondorf something to do besides play their token roles, though. Both were great in WW but were pretty much tacked on here for tradition's sake.


Any development given to Midna is ruined by that TERRIBLE ending.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:55:13 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2872

I would have brought up this poll, but Curt refuses to accept any sort of 4-way result, regardless of how decisive it is.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2010 8:56:40 PM | message detail
Terrible ending? I thought it was a beautiful way to end both the game and Midna's character development. There was complete closure with her, at least IIRC.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 8:56:54 PM | message detail
6 months of football. Half the city follows spring ball too. Same with Columbus. But we get 8 months of sports. 4 months of Buckeye football, then 2 of Buckeye basketball, then 2 of spring ball, then 4 months of depression.

Yeah, but I'd think more people follow basketball here than spring football (men's basketball, even though our women's team is legendary). Football in the fall reigns over everything though. Anyway, do/did you live in Knoxville?


About LoZ: the series is in need of a shake-up, but by all means the formula has been great and put out some of the best games of all time. I quit playing LoZ:TP early on though...the wolf's seaching-quests were killing me and I was on a borrowed Wii. I'd love to see the series take more of a LoZ:WW-direction if they hid/killed Tingle and gave it some difficulty...but whatever the case, they've got the problem of figuring out the things they want to keep that won't make the games feel like "just another LoZ-game" and things they want to remove without getting the internet to hate it in a hurry. I remember an interview where it was said LoZ:WW's reception to its graphics nearly ended the series and another interview a few years ago where Nintendo agreed the series needs a change-up...so it'll be fun to see what happens with this next LoZ-game.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/9/2010 8:57:15 PM | message detail
The one problem with that poll is that Fox is the only one of those characters that has any real popularity from something other than Smash. I'm not saying it means nothing, but do we really think Fox almost doubles CF in a 1v1? If so, then unless Cloud gets 75%+ tonight, we're almost calling Fox a near-elite.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 8:57:22 PM | message detail
Eh, Zelda doesn't have the same level of innovation as, say, the 3D Mario and Metroid games have. Mario went from SM64 to Sunshine, which added a water pack that actually helped with platforming and added a few unique things, which were pretty neat (though actually washing stuff was dumb), even if most people hated it. Then came Galaxy, which really took things 3D and made great use of the Wiimote in simple yet fun ways. Metroid tried adding a Dark World and Ammo (meh) and then tried to model itself more as a FPS with an actual storyline and such.

Only notable deviation for 3D Zelda is WW's graphics. TP was kind of a let down after the insane hype, yeah, but overall it's still a great game and I still think it's an improvement over OoT.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/9/2010 8:58:54 PM | message detail
Sorry, never lived in Knoxville. Crazy college football junkie, though, and I make it my business to know all I can about and visit good college football towns as much as I can. None beat my hometown Columbus though.
GO BUCKS!
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2010 8:59:18 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess is the only Zelda game I didn't have to force myself to finish!

I'll finish OoT one of these days!
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