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red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:32:46 AM | message detail
But plenty of people did give reasons why they thought Yoshi was a bad opponent for Missingno, before the match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 10:32:46 AM | message detail
I hate the MK-example for Sub-Zero; there aren't a lot of people who care about MK anymore and it didn't even release the day of the match (I think it was two days before). Nobody's taking MC in a rematch anyway. Let's collectively agree that example sucks, please.


Still, FF13 was without a doubt the most hyped game here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3703

Lightning broke 36% on Sonic without an American release, too...so yeah, there was definitely hype for today here. Considering this is a FAQ-site and RPG-funzone, it would be no surprise if some FF-characters in the next few days over-performed, especially today. If Cloud terrifyingly kills CF tomorrow, we'll have some more proof.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:32:46 AM | message detail
I'm not convinced that SZ would have lost to MC if the Mortal Kombat game wasn't released.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:34:28 AM | message detail
But plenty of people did give reasons why they thought Yoshi was a bad opponent for Missingno, before the match.

People gave reasons as to why Missingno would not increase in popularity, but no one gave any reasons as to why he would suddenly drop.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:34:29 AM | message detail
Crono/Yoshi on a day match would be one of those close, but never in danger type of matches.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:34:49 AM | message detail
I hate the MK-example for Sub-Zero; there aren't a lot of people who care about MK anymore and it didn't even release the day of the match (I think it was two days before). Nobody's taking MC in a rematch anyway. Let's collectively agree that example sucks, please.

I went over that.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:35:14 AM | message detail
Crono/Yoshi on a day match would be one of those close, but never in danger type of matches.

I agree. But it would not be 55%+ like some people were saying.
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Haguile | Posted 3/9/2010 10:35:19 AM | message detail
*votes for jecht and awaits results. hopes for around 30%*

...Awwwww yeah Jecht you magnficent bastard!
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:35:57 AM | message detail
People gave reasons as to why Missingno would not increase in popularity, but no one gave any reasons as to why he would suddenly drop.

Yes they did or do you think all of the people that were pushing Yoshi > Missingno thought Yoshi would defeat Crono?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:36:25 AM | message detail
People gave reasons as to why Missingno would not increase in popularity, but no one gave any reasons as to why he would suddenly drop.

I did for many topics. My reasoning back then was that Yoshi was a much harder character to rally against because of him being so loved. I was using SMB/Warcraft of an example.

It didn't work out that way, but it was still an interesting theory on how Yoshi could have won. I still think it had an effect in the match, but it wasn't enough apparently.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:38:57 AM | message detail
Nah, Ulti, transience, and others talked at length about how Yoshi was universally liked and was therefore the ideal counter for a joke character. I specifically remember multiple people claiming that Yoshi would be a harder barrier for MN than Sephiroth.

Although, even if Missingno was perfectly linear between those 2 matches, it probably still doesn't look all that horrible for Crono when you realize that Crono probably wins with around 52% without rallying, and Missingno ended up winning with 51.5%. Since that was a day match, it probably translates into 56%+ for Crono over Yoshi in a 24-hour match.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:39:08 AM | message detail
It didn't work out that way, but it was still an interesting theory on how Yoshi could have won. I still think it had an effect in the match, but it wasn't enough apparently.

But people are still arguing that MN changed between rounds. That's my point.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:40:49 AM | message detail
Er....51.5% on Yoshi. 51.5 - 48 = 3.5 + 2.5 for the difference between a day and night match = 56% for Crono over Yoshi.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:41:05 AM | message detail
He could have. It all depends on how low you're putting Crono. If Crono is still up there with Sonic and Vincent in the bottom tier of elites, then MissingNo definitely did falter between rounds.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:42:37 AM | message detail
It was pretty obvious that there was more rallying in Crono/Missingno based on vote totals. How the rallied votes split is up for debate.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:45:38 AM | message detail
And 56% really isn't satisfactory for a 24-hour match, since Squall got 58% last year. But Crono can get to the 55-56% area without any decrease in Missingno's strength from round to round, other than MN not needing to really rally against Yoshi. If you do believe that Yoshi is a counter to joke characters, Crono can reach 58% or higher, which would be satisfactory.
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Japago | Posted 3/9/2010 10:46:52 AM | message detail
I did for many topics. My reasoning back then was that Yoshi was a much harder character to rally against because of him being so loved. I was using SMB/Warcraft of an example.

It didn't work out that way, but it was still an interesting theory on how Yoshi could have won. I still think it had an effect in the match, but it wasn't enough apparently.


It's so tough to figure out joke characters. I understand the logic though behind this. Maybe it's why Pikachu was able to beat L-Block last year, but not Ryu.

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LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:47:51 AM | message detail
Oddly enough, that scene shows exactly how Jecht would beat Tidus.

Tidus: BAWWW, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Jecht: Shut the hell up, crybaby.


Ha ha. It's funny because Jecht is a horrible parent.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:55:08 AM | message detail

From: Haguile | #258
*votes for jecht and awaits results. hopes for around 30%*

...Awwwww yeah Jecht you magnficent bastard!


Your best-case scenario was Jecht being on the same level as Travis Touchdown?

From: LOLContests | #268
Oddly enough, that scene shows exactly how Jecht would beat Tidus.

Tidus: BAWWW, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Jecht: Shut the hell up, crybaby.


Ha ha. It's funny because Jecht is a horrible parent.


If Tidus was my kid, I'd act like Jecht too!

Anyway, if Jecht is really getting a FF13 release boost, wouldn't the votals be higher than usual from the fresh influx of casual fans who are visiting the site?

I should check the votals.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 10:57:40 AM | message detail
Jecht is a guy who barely beat Phoenix Wright and Ratchet. Yet he has 40% on Zelda in the day? How is this possible? I'll tell you. This is the power of the FFXIII boost.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:58:28 AM | message detail
*IF* Missingno was transitive between rounds 1 and 2, he won't break 40% on Seph. If Yoshi was his biggest obstacle, he might make it all the way to Link.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:59:23 AM | message detail
13:56

Luigi/WCC: 15787
Kirby/Vivi: 17878
Mega Man/Ryu H: 17336
Charizard/L-Block: 16408
Jecht/Zelda: 15403

Yeah, I'm not buying the FF13 boost. Votals are the weakest so far in Round 3 for Day Matches.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/9/2010 11:01:33 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3835&region=GB

Oh yes, UK loves their FFX.

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 11:02:13 AM | message detail
Jecht has had some of worst vote totals of the contest. You can blame it on the competition, but currently he's the second and third least impressive winners of the contest.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 11:06:54 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #274
Jecht has had some of worst vote totals of the contest. You can blame it on the competition, but currently he's the second and third least impressive winners of the contest.


Now I want to compare Jecht's votals today to his previous matches, except his first two matches were in the night while today's is a day match.

**** it, I'll post them anyway.

2:01/14:01

vs Phoenix: 7781
vs Ratchet: 7678
vs Zelda: 6421

Not very useful since, you know, night/day difference and all, but what the hell!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 11:07:22 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #272
13:56

Luigi/WCC: 15787
Kirby/Vivi: 17878
Mega Man/Ryu H: 17336
Charizard/L-Block: 16408
Jecht/Zelda: 15403

Yeah, I'm not buying the FF13 boost. Votals are the weakest so far in Round 3 for Day Matches.


Very true. Jecht's just legit.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 11:07:23 AM | message detail
I thought Zelda would win with at least 65%.Why she is under 60%?Maybe people are tired of Zelda games(yeah I would like to believe that...).
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 11:09:00 AM | message detail
I thought Zelda would win with at least 65%.Why she is under 60%?

FFXIII boost. It's quite obvious
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 11:09:20 AM | message detail
But my original point is that if FF13 really was boosting Jecht, this match would have higher votals. Look at Mario/Cloud, even though that's an extreme example and a really shaky one considering the massive rallying Mario got. But then that's the only comparable match we have anyway.

So this probably isn't so much FF13 release boost as much as Jecht actually being this strong and, more likely, Zelda being much weaker.

What does Jecht need on Zelda for Ratchet to escape being doubled by her?
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 11:10:17 AM | message detail
About 38%
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 11:10:41 AM | message detail
What does FF XIII has to do with a guy that is from FF X?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 11:11:08 AM | message detail
Because fans of FF are the ones buying FFXIII.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/9/2010 11:11:30 AM | message detail
What does FF XIII has to do with a guy that is from FF X?

It makes FF fans who wouldn't normally visit GameFAQS visit the site and they're obviously more likely to vote for Jecht.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 11:12:28 AM | message detail
But my original point is that if FF13 really was boosting Jecht, this match would have higher votals.


Why? The votals don't matter, only how well Jecht is doing on Zelda. And he's doing much better than he should.

Look at Mario/Cloud

Absolutely not. Worthless example.
Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 11:13:52 AM | message detail
It's not just going to bring in new fans (At least not yet, wait a few days before they get the game and need to use the strategy guides). For now, it's putting the site as a whole in FF mode.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 11:15:20 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #280
About 38%


So Zelda can't even double Ratchet.

Something is definitely off about this match. Jecht is getting a FF13 boost, Ratchet and Phoenix have boosted and Jecht is legit, Zelda has significantly dropped, or a combo of the three.

My money's on a Zelda drop myself. Phoenix and Ratchet have no real reason to boost, and the votals certainly contradict any indication of a FF13 boost today.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 11:17:51 AM | message detail
Votals are irrelevent to a FFXIII boost. Who uses votals for a legitimate argument? Jecht always has bad totals. A worthless argument. The correct answer is Zelda losing a step in conjunction with a FFXIII boost. Sorry, but Ratchet doesn't go from 19% on Dante and barly beating Nana to being on Ezio's level
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 11:19:25 AM | message detail
Sorry, but Ratchet doesn't go from 19% on Dante and barly beating Nana to being on Ezio's level

WHAT?!? How else do you explain the egg that the most awesome badass Jecht laid against Ratchet??
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irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 11:24:29 AM | message detail
I'm going to laugh if Zelda inexplicably gets around 45% on Samus again next round.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 11:44:21 AM | message detail
The vote-totals is a valid enough argument against FF13 boosting Jecht here, though Jecht has had some of the poorest vote-totals of the contest in R1/R2...so I don't know how valid that is to defend him.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 12:02:12 PM | message detail
Is... Jecht getting the ASV?
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 12:20:41 PM | message detail
FF XIII boost it seems.If the final was Cloud/Link and it was today Cloud would won I believe.
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vcharon | Posted 3/9/2010 12:36:43 PM | message detail
Yeah... but what real FF fan is visiting Gamefaqs simply because of FFXIII? I mean coming to look what to do on the first day you get the game rather than trying to figure it out yourself? Is that really what gamers have fallen down to?

Regardless, Jecht overperforming.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 12:38:04 PM | message detail
But of course are how gamers are nowdays.Do you know how many people play by a faq because they don't want to lose achievements or trophies or they don't want to miss a single thing?Sad but is the truth...
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irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 12:39:51 PM | message detail
FFXII might have burned a lot of people with the ridiculous Zodiac Spear "DUH HUH DON'T OPEN THESE CHESTS OR U CAN'T GET IT!!!" thing.
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vcharon | Posted 3/9/2010 12:41:00 PM | message detail
That's what replays are for. People should try to enjoy the game the first time through, not worry about having a perfect playthrough. Really spoils the fun of the game if you ask me.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/9/2010 12:41:53 PM | message detail
Jecht just gained .1% against Zelda in the ASV on that last update. Not only is the FFXIII boost allowing FF characters to boost to incredible levels, it is also allowing them to defy the very fabric of trends themselves.
Biolizard28 | Posted 3/9/2010 12:42:29 PM | message detail
Jecht and Ratchet are legit.

Book it.
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irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 12:51:38 PM | message detail
Yea, but it was an extremely arbitrary move to tie getting the most powerful weapon in the game to not opening specific treasure chests throughout the game. I mean, think about that. Not only does it make absolutely no sense in the context of the game, but it encourages people not to open chests! The game designer is supposed to reward players for opening chests and such. Granted, some of the chests are Mimics, but those give you a substantial reward once you kill them.

FYI, FFXII is my 2nd favorite FF, but that Zodiac Spear thing is just horrific game design.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 12:54:08 PM | message detail
Thye may be coming to GameFAQs just to discuss the game with others.
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