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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 869
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 9:53:35 AM | message detail |
So
Link's been underwhelming, Ganondorf let Sonic get 57% on him, Midna's
only a step or two above Laharl, and Zelda's struggling to keep 60% on
Jecht. And all this after OoT dominated FF7 in the BGE2 contest. Is it foolish for me to start hoping for an epic Mario > Link upset? It happened indirectly on Gamespot! --- Not Wylvane |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 9:53:42 AM | message detail |
No fodder threatens 40% on Zelda. All 3 were legit this year. Another case of someone who is blindly following stats without using logic. Ratchet boosted out of nowhere, Phoenix boosted out of nowhere, and Jecht is strong because I love his character! --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 9:55:54 AM | message detail |
I
want to say Jecht is high fodder too (have to grudingly concede him low
midcard status after today), but isn't fodder solely a statistical
definition? What else would you mean by it? --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 9:56:03 AM | message detail |
Ratchet
boosting isn't that hard to believe considering how much advertisement
the game got. Phoenix Wright has always been borderline fodder/high
fodder. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 125/160 - Today's Winners: Samus and Zelda |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 9:56:03 AM | message detail |
I can see Jecht not being fodder, but I'm still not sold on Phoenix and Ratchet considering how weak they've been in the past. I think it's a combination of FF13 release and Zelda series deboosting, with the pic being a non-factor. I'd be surprised if Samus doesn't crush Zelda next round. --- Not Wylvane |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 9:57:31 AM | message detail |
Phoenix
was probable fodder and Ratchet was definite fodder pre-contest, Jecht
didn't beat either of them very badly, and Jecht's impressing on the
day FF13 is released against a character who has failed to impress thus
far. No suspicions they may still be fodder? Really? --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 9:57:37 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #202 YOU DID NOTHING BUT BLINDLY FOLLOWING STATS TO TRASH ALL THREE OF THOSE CHARACTERS. LOL Do you even remember the things you post? --- ¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸ How does it feel when all you're counting on is scatterbrained? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 9:58:14 AM | message detail |
Phoenix
Wright got 35% against Bowser in 2k8. Jecht has a pic and release date
advantage. This match is incredibly out of the ordinary because?... --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 9:58:23 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #206 No. Jecht can and would beat Tidus. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://img.imgcake.com/mjpop.gif |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 9:59:41 AM | message detail |
Then again, most of the Zelda characters' matches have been at night, which may explain their weakness. Too bad Link/Mario's 24 hours. Guess I'll have to jump on the Luigi > Link bandwagon instead! It's 2003 all over again, except Squall's not going to ruin everything this time! --- Not Wylvane |
paulg235 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:00:10 AM | message detail |
I'd
take Jecht and Phoenix to be low-midcarders and Ratchet being a
possible low-midcarder. Anything higher than that just looks off. --- The Gamer In Me My Signature's broken, just like your front door. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:00:23 AM | message detail |
Luigi v Samus in 2003 would have been hilarious. --- ·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`· A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:00:25 AM | message detail |
So Phoenix would get 40% or so on Sora? --- Not Wylvane |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:00:58 AM | message detail |
Phoenix Wright got 35% against Bowser in 2k8. Jecht has a pic and release date advantage. This match is incredibly out of the ordinary because?... Well as long as you don't believe Jecht would push for 40% against Zelda in a fair match then I'm fine. Well it's common belief that PW performs better in four-ways, but that's up for debate. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 125/160 - Today's Winners: Samus and Zelda |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:01:37 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #212 Luigi rSFFs Samus 60-40! Luigi rSFFs Toon Link! Luigi rides bandwagon hype to victory over Cloud! Wylvane is 2003 Contest Champ! --- Not Wylvane |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:02:23 AM | message detail |
Ratchet
boosting isn't that hard to believe considering how much advertisement
the game got. Phoenix Wright has always been borderline fodder/high
fodder. Ratchet gets a game a contest, all of which have been advertised. You're going to need more evidence then just that to go off of. YOU DID NOTHING BUT BLINDLY FOLLOWING STATS TO TRASH ALL THREE OF THOSE CHARACTERS. LOL Do you even remember the things you post? Not exactly. I don't care to memorize everything I've said in arguments that happened weeks ago. What I do recall arguing is that you were saying Jecht is a midcard, which is ridiculous after how close he got to Ratchet. Actually, I'm pretty sure I put Jecht in the low midcarder/high fodder category, so I wasn't saying he was complete trash. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 10:03:15 AM | message detail |
I'd love to see some people take Jecht > Tidus. Do you think Phoenix gets 45% on Sub-Zero? And Wylvane's got a point about LoZ-characters -- they've not exactly been up to par this contest. Another round will tell us more with Link having a prime opportunity to SFF Luigi, Zelda with a shot to stand up against Samus again, and see how Ganon compares with Kirby...but they've not done anything very good so far, as least compared to their usual dominance. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:04:07 AM | message detail |
Ratchet
gets a game a contest, all of which have been advertised. You're going
to need more evidence then just that to go off of. Except this game was advertised a lot more compare to other games. It was almost as much as Uncharted 2. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 125/160 - Today's Winners: Samus and Zelda |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:04:53 AM | message detail |
That is true. The Zelda characters have looked quite unimpressive this year. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:05:13 AM | message detail |
I'd love to see some people take Jecht > Tidus. Do you think Phoenix gets 45% on Sub-Zero? You could compare Jecht's performance against Sub-Zero in the vote-in >_> --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 125/160 - Today's Winners: Samus and Zelda |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:05:15 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #217 So, in a way, Jecht/Tidus comes down to Phoenix/Master Chief! --- Not Wylvane |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 10:05:19 AM | message detail |
Jecht
is a low midcard, Phoenix is the line between low midcard and higher
fodder, Ratchet is high fodder. Seems pretty clear to me. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:06:03 AM | message detail |
Except this game was advertised a lot more compare to other games. It was almost as much as Uncharted 2. All of his games were advertised big time. Just about every person here knows who Ratchet is. GameFAQs does not care about non Mario related platform franchises. He could get advertisements all over the place and he wouldn't do **** all with them. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/9/2010 10:06:34 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #222 Gotta agree with this assessment. --- Not Wylvane |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 10:07:00 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #217 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3693 Vote-in accuracy strikes again! --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 10:07:32 AM | message detail |
the
combination of elements against Zelda in this particular match probably
doesn't amount to much more than a 1-2% deviation from the norm. Jecht
is legit, evidently. --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. |
Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/9/2010 10:08:14 AM | message detail |
Hey, uh, how does one pronounce "Jecht"? I've been saying "Jesht". Also I made a mock bracket. It has lame divisional finals but the rest is cool. http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=354349 --- And then the car wash cost five dollars. Pokemon Platinum: 1719 9497 5082 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:08:27 AM | message detail |
the
combination of elements against Zelda in this particular match probably
doesn't amount to much more than a 1-2% deviation from the norm. Jecht
is legit, evidently. Oh really? Mind telling us how you came to this conclusion using you facts? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2010 10:08:36 AM | message detail |
From: irriadin | #226 I'd argue it's between 0.86% and 2.07%, myself. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/9/2010 10:09:27 AM | message detail |
You could compare Jecht's performance against Sub-Zero in the vote-in Point taken, though I'd still be amazed to see Jecht beat Tidus. Tidus barely lost to Vivi and shares the game responsible for Jecht getting here this year. Not that Tidus would necessarily SFF him -- Squall likely didn't SFF Terra, though at least they're from different FF-games from different eras to help justify that -- but it'd be hard to see him lose. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:11:54 AM | message detail |
Jecht
> Tidus also feels impossible to me. I hope that a lot of this is
FFXIII....that would sure make the contest endgame more interesting. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/9/2010 10:12:20 AM | message detail |
From: Gooper Blooper | #227 Jech >_> --- This is good...isn't it? - Big motha****ing Boss |
LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:12:40 AM | message detail |
Yeah, Ratchet is legit now, but I see no reason for Jecht > Tidus. People are just letting their own biases come into play, like in 2003 when everyone was hyping up Magus. --- "Place is filled with living casualties of the last war... which I swear I thought we'd won."--Soap MacTavish Yesmar |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2010 10:13:03 AM | message detail |
Jehkt is the pronunciation. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/9/2010 10:14:26 AM | message detail |
So, people think Tidus would only get 52% on Phoenix Wright? --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 10:14:57 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #228 Sure. I pulled the numbers out of the air in front of my head. It's useful for coming up with random numbers and seeming cool. You guys try it! In all seriousness though, there's a large degree of intangible elements that go into match % and overall performance of characters. The point I was trying to make through my random choice of % was that everyone crying about "FFXIII WAS RELEASED TODAY!!" and "OMG BLURRY PICTURE FOR ZELDA" doesn't really amount to much. Also an unsubstantiated point of view, based on my own thoughts on the matter. --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:20:24 AM | message detail |
From: Gooper Blooper | #227 Pretend the H isn't there. Ject. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:22:18 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #230 Four. Way. Match. Vivi would smoke Tidus 1v1. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· "As always Ulti, I bow to thou wisdom." -Meeks54 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:23:14 AM | message detail |
FFXIII
releasing today does have a big influence on this match. Take a look at
Mario/Cloud (Sunshine released that day) and Master Chief/Sub-Zero (MK
game was released that day) for proof on how that affects a match. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
FFDragon | Posted 3/9/2010 10:23:39 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 3/9/2010 12:50:49 PM | #196 Jecht > Tidus is obvious zone. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:24:05 AM | message detail |
Mario is legit, but Sub-Zero probably beats Chief anyway. No one cares about MK games past Genesis. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· People with one foot in the coffin shouldn't jump around. |
FFDragon | Posted 3/9/2010 10:25:17 AM | message detail |
From: Gooper Blooper | Posted: 3/9/2010 1:08:14 PM | #227 FFX Spoilers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTvnI-IZWyA#t=4m20s --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
irriadin | Posted 3/9/2010 10:26:18 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #239 It didn't seem to help Aerith that much against Zelda back in 2006... --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. |
LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:26:45 AM | message detail |
Four. Way. Match. Vivi would smoke Tidus 1v1. You can't just say lol 4 match without giving reason behind it. 4 Way matches can be unreliable *if there's reason to be.* When there's no other factors they hold up fairly well. There's no reason to think that anything was weird in the match, other than Pikachu possibly underperforming a little bit. --- "Place is filled with living casualties of the last war... which I swear I thought we'd won."--Soap MacTavish Yesmar |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:27:09 AM | message detail |
From: FFDragon | #242 Oddly enough, that scene shows exactly how Jecht would beat Tidus. Tidus: BAWWW, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Jecht: Shut the hell up, crybaby. --- "Final Fantasy XI is a bad game that no one should care about for any reason." -FFDragon |
LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:28:29 AM | message detail |
It's the same problem with people writing off how close Crono and Yoshi's performances on Missingno were. Jokes are not transitive, but that doesn't mean they're illogical. If you want to make an excuse for a non-transitive performance, it has to be a logical one. --- "Place is filled with living casualties of the last war... which I swear I thought we'd won."--Soap MacTavish Yesmar |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:30:05 AM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | #246 If you argue this, MN will be lucky to break 40% on Sephiroth. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics." -Lucid |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/9/2010 10:31:35 AM | message detail |
Mario is legit, but Sub-Zero probably beats Chief anyway. No one cares about MK games past Genesis. Doesn't matter how good/bad the game is. If there's a hyped new Mortal Kombat game coming out, even for people who don't give a **** about that game will get nostalgia flashbacks from the old MK games. They'll have Sub-Zero on their minds, and it can and does alter their votes. Also, the casual fanbase will come to this site looking for MK FAQs/codes, so of course they'll vote for Sub Zero too. Same deal here. FF fans are flocking the site right now (which is a much larger fanbase than MK), so they're going to be boosting Jecht a lot higher than he actually is. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LOLContests | Posted 3/9/2010 10:32:08 AM | message detail |
If you argue this, MN will be lucky to break 40% on Sephiroth. I'm not saying that MN isn't going to break 40%. Momentum would be a logical enough justification. I'm just saying that saying "MN dropped in popularity when he was up against Yoshi" isn't a legit argument since there's no logic behind it. "Jokes aren't transitive" isn't logical, since they are non-transitive in logical ways. --- "Place is filled with living casualties of the last war... which I swear I thought we'd won."--Soap MacTavish Yesmar |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/9/2010 10:32:26 AM | message detail |
why are people acting surprised and trying to make up reasons for why jecht is over 40% its ffxiii release date, many FF fans are on the site discussing it due to this its not a hard concept to grasp. Jecht is fodder line, phoenix is high fodder, and ratchet is fodder. just trying to make up any other excuses, like pic factor, zelda has gotten weaker, etc is pointless. --- http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0816/front.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
