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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 869

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 5:41:50 PM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 5:45:05 PM | message detail
FFXIII day approaches
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/8/2010 5:48:40 PM | message detail
Mega Man > Mario
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 5:49:11 PM | message detail
Down with hierarchies.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/8/2010 9:26:41 PM | message detail
Congrats to 2010 Character Contest Champ HeroicPalmer.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:27:32 PM | message detail
XD never thought id say the lboard again after having sora/MC/dante, zard pulled me back in!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/8/2010 9:28:34 PM | message detail
Tag
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:28:56 PM | message detail
It is when you think Samus has dropped off since then!

And why would you think that? She had a great year as usual in 2007, trouncing Megaman to the tune of 60%+ once Yoshi was out of the poll, and putting up 41% on Cloud, with MM in the poll even. In 2008, she put up her best performance on Mario ever, while being at the bottom of Triple SFF. This year she's impressed twice in 2 rounds so far, before this match.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
Mac Arrowny | Posted 3/8/2010 9:29:36 PM | message detail
Samus's awesome performances make Ridley look pretty good, don't they?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:30:25 PM | message detail
sub over 30 soon, awwww ya
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/8/2010 9:31:12 PM | message detail
Wouldn't you take Samus to 65/35 Ridley before SFF? I sure would. Even post-Brawl.
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:39 PM | message detail
ATTN EVERYONE: Palmer is in 1st place on the leaderboard.

Don't you all feel a little dumber right about now?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 9:35:52 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #012
ATTN EVERYONE: Palmer is in 1st place on the leaderboard.

Don't you all feel a little dumber right about now?


No, because he has Snake > Seph in a day match. Sephiroth will break 60% there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:37:59 PM | message detail
Tidus/Ridley, who ya got?

And the quarterfinals should probably be all day matches. Only two of them have any chance at being meaningful, but there's only four so it's not like we'd have to suffer much.

But I guess we haven't seen any matches where the winner flips (that I can remember), so it probably doesn't make much of a difference.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/8/2010 9:38:03 PM | message detail
When are the full-day matches supposed to begin?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:39:36 PM | message detail
If I had to guess, I'd say only the final will be 24 hour.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 9:39:53 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #015
When are the full-day matches supposed to begin?


Last three matches.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/8/2010 9:42:52 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #013
No, because he has Snake > Seph in a day match


You're right. LOL people thinking Seph > Missingno
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:43:58 PM | message detail
Let me amend that a little bit. Missingno/Crono probably would have flipped if Missingno played it fairly straight, but I don't think there's any guarantee of that. I guess Yoshi kinda maybe sorta has an argument.

Maaaaybe Knuckles/Cecil.

Zidane has a decent argument.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 9:46:19 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #018
You're right. LOL people thinking Seph > Missingno


Eh, night matches are a whole different animal for Pokemon. MN has to be legitimately at or near Seph to win that, and he isn't close.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:52:26 PM | message detail
sub blasts past 30, nearly .50% off from samus on that one, noice.. How high is sub going to go dayam
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/8/2010 9:52:52 PM | message detail
Is Samus's board vote this ridiculously good or does she just not get the Power Hour support that other Nintendo characters do?
red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:53:57 PM | message detail
She's fallen off 2% since the freeze. Pretty standard for Nintendo.....Sora was cutting percentage faster last night.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 4: Luigi
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:55:00 PM | message detail
Samus is good in the power hour. She held jill at 30 during it. Jill rose 3% from the 5minute mark. Samus will most likely start to drop faster in % soon. Same thing happened with prince.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/8/2010 9:57:58 PM | message detail
Jill probably stays above Sub though. Good enough for me!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/8/2010 9:58:01 PM | message detail
Missingno has been coasting on the Pokemon vote for the day, so now it will utilize the joke night vote against Seph.

Today and tomorrow are going to be boring. At least we have the novelty of Solid ****/Pikachu, the showdown between Auron and Squall, and the ridiculous Seph/Missingno to look forward to.

At least Round 4 should be more exciting! Sonic/Kirby, Mario/Mega Man, Bowser/Charizard, and to a lesser extent Snake/Squall.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 9:59:19 PM | message detail
As a comparison, Sub is doing .11% better than Jill was at this time. He is doing much better in EU and asia than NA, so there is a very good chance he could finish above 33%. Considering a weaker 2k6 auron got 40.30% on sub, Im not sure how this makes samus look overall.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/8/2010 10:00:33 PM | message detail
It makes her look like a ****ing beast, dude.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:00:48 PM | message detail
yea.. another nice cut by sub, he's rising at a much faster rate than jill was. Sub > jill seems very likely. Power hour isnt even fully over.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:01:56 PM | message detail
You realize Samus was suppose to finish over 60% on auron in 2k6 dont you? If sub does finish at 33% or so, she is actually doing below what's expected.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/8/2010 10:03:18 PM | message detail
Wow, so extrapolating through Hayabusa/Chief, and Sub/Chief, where does this put Mega Man on Smaus?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:03:49 PM | message detail
2k6 samus vs sub puts her at 69.45%, 2k7 samus vs sub puts her at 71.14%. She's underperforming. Still a good show though.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 10:04:00 PM | message detail
Sub-Zero isn't going to outdo Jill. RE has a great night vote, Sub-Zero not so much.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:05:19 PM | message detail
sub is doing great in EU and Asia, and samus is alreaday at 70% in NA, shes dropping fast there as well. Imo, Sub should pass jill
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/8/2010 10:05:57 PM | message detail
At this rate, it isn't going to be *that* far off. Samus hasn't looked as even as she historically has this year.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:07:15 PM | message detail
sub is .51% over what jill was at this time. He's rising rapidly. Only a couple updates ago he was .11% apart from what hers was at the same time.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/8/2010 10:07:33 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2010 12:23:48 AM | message detail
The % disparity between regions really sheds light on how few non-Americans vote during the Power Hour. Subz is doing an absolutely fantastic job (41%+ in all regions but Oceania, where he has 36%) everywhere but North America. Samus has just under 72% in NA and is nearly equaling that in her world percentage.


If there is another "What continent are you on?" poll, I plan on doing an hourly trend chart for that poll, to see what regions are strongest in which hours.
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vcharon | Posted 3/8/2010 10:10:56 PM | message detail
Yeah, he's gaining percentage pretty steadily. Even if he doesn't reach Jill's mark, I'd still take him in a head to head match without a second thought.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/8/2010 10:12:02 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
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133----53----------30.19
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129----74----------27.03
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127----84----------28.57
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121----187--------10.70
120----194--------13.40
119----217--------11.52
118----237--------12.66
117----268--------11.19
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115----345--------7.25
114----378--------8.20
113----377--------9.81
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111----457--------7.88
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109----539--------7.24
108----540--------7.96
107----546--------6.78
106----533--------8.82
105----597--------7.54
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102----626--------5.91
101----622--------6.59
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All omitted scores got the match wrong.

Top tiers don't look so bad compared to the abysmal overall prediction percentage. We lose the last -13 bracket. The -14s to -17s actually manage to stay above 50. It's not until the -25s that prediction percentage falls below 30. After a few more tiers, prediction percentage falls to the single digits before fading away.

20 people fell off the Top 50. running_lemon, Evil_REmade, Zero_Signal620, DaemonDragon, ToadYoshi, fr0g804, AffeldtABoob, Safer_777, miaminole21, linkhatesganon, Naomi_Diamond, Astro1446, GreatGen, Megaman_703, Luis_Sera89, LagunaticHigh, HopefulDeath, Jaffar4, Scorpion2536 and UltimaBladeX did not have Charizard winning the match.

6 people got it wrong and survived. Former first place primewaker, Garrison5001, transience, Agent_M, RPGuy96 and ranapuer also did not have Charizard winning.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/8/2010 10:13:06 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #038
Yeah, he's gaining percentage pretty steadily. Even if he doesn't reach Jill's mark, I'd still take him in a head to head match without a second thought.


What if it's a night match?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/8/2010 10:14:10 PM | message detail
Roughly even Jill and Sub at night is an easy nod to Sub in a 24 hour match for fairly obvious reasons. I still have a gut feeling about Jill though... eh, iunno.

I wouldn't judge Samus based solely off of what she was "supposed" to get on Sub four years ago. The way he took down Tidus and Roxas is also pretty inspiring, and you can make some very nice comparisons for Samus based off of that.

Methinks she's gonna look scary good with the Power Hour come Cloud, but her big dropoffs post-PH are gonna make her look barely satisfactory by the end.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:14:34 PM | message detail
Samus is already below 70% in US, she's been dropping like a stone there. Chances are, Sub would pass jills % even in a day match at this rate.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:15:40 PM | message detail
sub zooms by 31%. Ya, Sub > Jill confirmed
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:30:00 PM | message detail
jeez, sub is not letting up. This could get really bad. Sub keeps boosting EVERYWHERE. I won't be shocked if sub breaks 34%. Samus will actually look bad at the end of this.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/8/2010 10:33:27 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #044
Samus will actually look bad at the end of this.


No, no she won't. Constantly bumping the thread like this won't help your case either.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:34:25 PM | message detail
Are you serious? She is already doing worse than what's expected. 1% worse. You're just very misinformed.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/8/2010 10:47:09 PM | message detail
Let me guess, you're one of those boobs that just plug in x-stat values and using them without even knowing how they arrived at those numbers, lol.

In the last 1v1 contest, Snake was estimated to get like 67.4% on Sub-Zero, and Samus is not far from him
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:50:48 PM | message detail
heh, just for comparison.. 2k6 Auron would be estimated to finish over 41% on samus' current %. Based on what sub got on him in 2k6. It's pretty obvious sub will go up a couple more %.. so 43% on by 2k6 auron. Who hit 45% on Crono. Considering 2k6 crono isn't even supposed to get 42% on samus, ya its bad. You must think I'm trying to troll her, which I'm not. I'm calling it how it is. She will end up underperforming, and looking bad.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 10:53:13 PM | message detail
As for snake, since you brought it up. We saw what happened in 2k6, he didnt even get 47% on samus. So using your example, Samus should have over 70% here.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/8/2010 10:53:50 PM | message detail
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