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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 868

KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 2:24:38 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #349
Yep, there it is.

And now, for the dumbest CS-related question ever. Do you have to manually split 280x150 into 4 triangles manually, or is there some trick to it?


I did it manually when I had to. It wasn't hard. There's probably some way to do it in Photoshop, but whatever!

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 2:25:01 PM | message detail
LOL that's awesome. Just needs their names.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 2:25:29 PM | message detail
Thought names were optional. Eh, I'll submit a names version just in case.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 2:25:53 PM | message detail
Just worried I'll be off by a pixel or two, and you know how that means hell on earth to some people.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/8/2010 2:30:43 PM | message detail
Fire silhouettes? Give 'em names and I'm okay with it!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 2:41:46 PM | message detail
Polygonal Lasso Tool!

Stats topic, you rock.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 2:42:09 PM | message detail
Also, what is Mario's most recent appearance?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 2:43:40 PM | message detail
NSMB Wii, probably.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 2:45:02 PM | message detail
And his first game?

And for Link, it would be.... Zelda 1 and Brawl?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 2:45:29 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong.

Zelda 1 and Spirit Tracks.

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paulg235 | Posted 3/8/2010 2:45:49 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's NSMBW. M&S at the winter olympics, if you count spin-off's.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:25:19 PM | message detail
I checked again, and it turns out that L-Block actually exceeded Zero's percentage on HK-47 slightly, whereas I'd said last night that he was 1% below Zero's mark. Here are some extrapolations, assuming Charizard ends with 61%.

Assuming a constant HK-47 and Zero from 2007 to 2010, Charizard gets 55.64% on Auron.
Assuming a constant HK-47 from 2005 to 2010, Charizard gets 59.12% on pre-KH2 Sora.
Assuming a Kratos 2006 = Kratos 2010, Charizard gets 47.12% on Ryu.
Assuming Duke 2008 = Duke 2010, Charizard gets 30.63% on Link.
Assuming Isaac 2003 = Isaac 2010, and there was zero SFF in Samus/Isaac, Charizard gets 40.00% on Samus.

Charizard has exceeded 60% here, so I think he's a slight favorite for next round.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:28:44 PM | message detail
Assuming a constant HK-47 and Zero from 2007 to 2010, Charizard gets 55.64% on Auron.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:30:41 PM | message detail
Ha, here's a fun one.

Assuming that Char/Auron relationship is right, and Crono beats Auron in 2k10 exactly as badly as he did in 2k6, Charizard > Missingno.

if Missingno beats Sephiroth, we might have an argument for Kratos > Sephiroth
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:32:27 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, there's this one too:

Assuming Revan = HK-47, Charizard gets 56.97% on Squall.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 3:32:33 PM | message detail
But Alucard beat Kratos that one time, which would mean Alucard is stronger than Seph-

...the plan.

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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:36:54 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #365
Oh yeah, there's this one too:

Assuming Revan = HK-47, Charizard gets 56.97% on Squall.


Auron > Squall confirmed who's your daddy
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/8/2010 3:37:22 PM | message detail
Alucard beat Kirby, who beat Sonic kinda, who beat Crono, who beat Mario.

Alucard = low NNers COMFIRMED, THE PLAN IS IN ACTION
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:37:53 PM | message detail
Another one: Assuming 2003 Tails = 2010 Tails (2003 was also a very bad year for Sonic characters), Charizard gets 50.02% on 2003 Auron. It's hard to tell how strong Auron was in 2003 since he got fed to Cloud, but considering how strong Square was in general that year, that looks pretty good for Charizard.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/8/2010 3:38:36 PM | message detail
The Plan will be executed perfectly in the final raw x-stats. The only way he could look better is if he faced Link in R1 instead of R2.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:39:25 PM | message detail
Thrall vs. Magus in a day match who ya got
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:42:05 PM | message detail
And I think I've convinced myself that Charizard should be the favorite, when you add HG/SS to the top of all those extrapolations (not that Charizard is really worth 55%+ on Auron or Squall, but you can have a lot of leeway for flaws coming from day/night effects, etc. and still have Charizard > Bowser).
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:45:35 PM | message detail
Charizard > Bowser requires Kratos > Sora. Tails and Duke > Frog, too, unless it's really close. That's all I need to know.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/8/2010 3:45:52 PM | message detail
jeez, the next 4 match are gonna be so damn boring..
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:47:47 PM | message detail
Not with HG/SS, and definitely not once you take day/night trends into account.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:48:27 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #373
Charizard > Bowser requires Kratos > Sora.


SFF match.

**** happens.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:49:30 PM | message detail
*hypes the miniscule chance of a Samus/Snake semi-final*

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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:54:22 PM | message detail
Kratos was above 47% until the ASV; he does a fair bit better in a full day match. Bowser/Sora and Charizard/Kratos would still be comparable, and you still have to deal with the fact that Sora beats Kratos easily.

HG/SS can spin things, I agree. We'll see what Jecht can do against Zelda. But I don't see any reason to give Charizard favorite status for beating a joke who's looked pretty bad for two rounds.
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Draco1214 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:57:13 PM | message detail
Charizard > Bowser requires Kratos > Sora.

After how ass Sora's looked, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 3:57:19 PM | message detail
That joke is a contest winner.Say what you want but that will never change.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 4:11:14 PM | message detail
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/8/2010 4:13:25 PM | message detail
The Link name is a bit hard to read in all three. Link's picture in the second one is a bit fuzzy so it doesn't look that good. Mario can't win so I guess the third one can work.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 4:21:46 PM | message detail
The box art itself is fuzzy, so that can't be helped: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Zelda_Legend_2010.jpg

I'll mess with the effects to see if I can make Link's name a little more legible.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/8/2010 4:33:59 PM | message detail
After how ass Sora's looked, I wouldn't be surprised.

First off, Sora got the short stick this contest: Having all night matches sounds tailor-made for Sora to look bad. Also, Kratos got 61% on TAILS.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 4:36:54 PM | message detail
All the 1 seeds have had all night matches. Sora was flat-out not deserving of a 1.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/8/2010 4:43:01 PM | message detail
All the 1 seeds have had all night matches. Sora was flat-out not deserving of a 1.

That works too. Also, when will we start having full-day matches? The quarterfinals?
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/8/2010 4:53:22 PM | message detail
The box art itself is fuzzy

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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/8/2010 5:12:12 PM | message detail
I'll say this again because nobody responded.

Um? Worst logic? Because I thought an unknown character who resembled a character that 60-40ed a character that was even with Zelda in lol-4ways? You guys have been using crappy 4 way logic the entire contest. I had already pointed out that if Altair didn't whip Kirby that Ezio had no chance of beating Zelda (since there was never a good read on Simon Belmont). Zack was handicapped by the picture, admittedly he had never had a 1v1 match before so his strength was completely theoretical.

Other than that I've only been toting Sonic as being stronger than Mega Man based on his recent performances. You guys forget that Mega Man has always been good at blowouts against clearly weaker opponents (hell he got 68% against Yoshi, and pretty much the only non n9 breaker that has ever stood up to him was Sora (for many reasons which aren't worth explaining here). Other than that he routinely pastes people before falling apart against stronger opposition (read falling apart as not being as strong as his blowouts suggest). I mean Yoshi has always been pretty much of equal strength to Luigi (as evidenced by most of his matches) and Mega Man posted a 68% on him only a year before Sonic beat Luigi with 60%, he then struggled to barely beat Sonic by not even a full percentage. You can claim SFF -- but Sonic would have just as much reason to SFF Luigi at this point as MM would to SFF Yoshi. The reaity is that MM is great at blowouts, but his strength is always over-estimated because of them.

Mega Man has no chance against Mario.

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KommunistKoala | Posted 3/8/2010 5:14:28 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | Posted: 3/8/2010 8:12:12 PM | #388
I'll say this again because nobody responded.


there's a reason nobody responded you know
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 5:17:50 PM | message detail
I'm sorry Curt, but your logic is more like wishful thinking. Megaman > Mario has a higher chance of happening than Ezio > Zelda ever did.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 5:20:09 PM | message detail
People didn't respond for a reason, Curt.

And I think we're overrating the effect of the match on the release date thing a bit too much. Why do we believe it makes a huge difference? Because of Mario/Cloud? There were more factors that went into that match than Sunshine being released on that day, and we don't even know how much of an effect it had. We don't know how close that match is without it.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/8/2010 5:27:21 PM | message detail
Red you were there talking about how Ezio had a chance if Altair impressed against Vivi. Ultimately Ezio was an unknown and I was banking on him being stronger than he was. He didn't fall apart completely (he did decently against Zelda), but with that in mind you can't compare Mega Man vs. Mario to Zelda vs. Ezio considering, as I said, Ezio was an unknown. Either way that's not my point here. Mostly the second paragraph is what I want to call attention to. Mega Man has always been a blowout machine. He just comes short in the big matches (read coming short as not living up to what his strength is based on the blowouts).
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/8/2010 5:28:00 PM | message detail
Also I don't see the reason why people didn't respond. It's not like I am saying there was sound stats behind Ezio > Zelda or Zack > Mega Man. I'm saying I went on a hunch.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 5:29:34 PM | message detail
And I'll explain why. You're stating a ton of assumptions that have not been backed up with evidence and go against linearity, the foundation of all of our analysis of these contests since 2003. Linearity has been an amazingly good assumption, and while it's not perfect, it's almost always is quite close to reality. There are some systematic cases where it fails to a large degree- most notably SFF and LFF. Your arguments, however, are based on ideas that no one here has accepted before, and are given without much evidence.

It would be like me insisting to you all that Chrono Trigger characters are strong against characters they overlap with a lot and weak against characters with whom they have very little overlap (most notably Sonic characters). It's a theory I've had since 2005, but I still have no evidence for it, and wouldn't expect people to believe it just because I say so.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 5:29:56 PM | message detail
You know, it's strange how evenly trended L-Block was this year. That thing used to be all over the place, but not this year. In a night match against HK-47 and Isaac, and now in a day match against Charizard, not much shifting at all.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 5:31:11 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #387
The box art itself is fuzzy

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Sweet.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 5:31:17 PM | message detail
And yeah, I did say that Zelda > Ezio was not a complete lock. I don't think it was even now, given what we had seen in the first round. MM > Mario still has a much higher chance than that upset ever did.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/8/2010 5:36:56 PM | message detail
Not only Mario/Cloud, but also Master Chief/Sub-Zero was infamous for being a close match where the winner had a game released right on the day of the match.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/8/2010 5:37:50 PM | message detail
I'd probably still take Sub-Zero over Master Chief so I'm not sure if that made much of a difference.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/8/2010 5:38:40 PM | message detail
This Mega Man > Mario hype has to be a joke or something, because no one is that stupid.
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