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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 868

KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:31:28 AM | message detail
Charizard is already ahead in NA and the US. For the record, at this point in time he was losing both regions to Kratos by a good amount and went on to storm the ASV.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:32:28 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #140
And then a bandwagon after that!

Charizard>Link


I like the cut of your gib, KP.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:32:29 AM | message detail
Actually, Charizard could end up around 63%.

L-Block vs. Frog in the day?
L-Block vs. Kefka in the day?
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:32:33 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #151
Charizard is already ahead in NA and the US. For the record, at this point in time he was losing both regions to Kratos by a good amount and went on to storm the ASV.


Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if he jumps a couple percentage with the ASV. L Block has near FF6 kinda ASV iirc.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:33:08 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #153
Actually, Charizard could end up around 63%.

L-Block vs. Frog in the day?
L-Block vs. Kefka in the day?


Frog
Kefka
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:01 AM | message detail
I doubt L-Block is that bad in the day anymore. WCC barely lose the ASV to Luigi. 61% is probable though.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:09 AM | message detail
Well I'd be very happy if Frog could beat L-Block in the day. Not even I would have picked that before the contest......probably.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:41 AM | message detail
L-Block's day vote is so bad because it usually has a good night vote, which it doesn't have this time. Same problem the Cube had.

Charizard's day vote is better than Weegi's though.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:42 AM | message detail
So Leon, you said 60% would put him in contention. If he finishes near 64%, and with HGSS' release day and all, do you think Zard is the favorite now?
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:34:51 AM | message detail
But Missingno stomped Yoshi in the ASV, so Pokemon is a good deal better than the Mario side-characters at the ASV.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:35:02 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #156
I doubt L-Block is that bad in the day anymore. WCC barely lose the ASV to Luigi. 61% is probable though.


Zard jumped 1.5% against Kratos. Thats the minimum, with 3% more likely.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/8/2010 9:35:04 AM | message detail
Bowser/Charizard 2nd best match of the contest IMO

And first would be Sephiroth RKOing Missingno?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:35:15 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #157
Well I'd be very happy if Frog could beat L-Block in the day. Not even I would have picked that before the contest......probably.


Well, I think we were kind of expecting it to still be around 2008 levels, which is pretty clearly isn't.

(No, it isn't. Stop it!)
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:36:01 AM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #162
Bowser/Charizard 2nd best match of the contest IMO

And first would be Sephiroth RKOing Missingno?


First will be Sephiroth getting his vengeance on Snake. 2nd will be the Zard's division triumph over Bowser. Sephiroth making mince meat of the glitch is a distant third because unlike the first two it won't be close.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:36:03 AM | message detail
I will be very disappointed if Round 4 ends up being a string of almost-upsets. MM>Mario, Charizard>Bowser...come on, contest, throw us a bone!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:36:19 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #159
So Leon, you said 60% would put him in contention. If he finishes near 64%, and with HGSS' release day and all, do you think Zard is the favorite now?


Charizard's doing what he needs to do to win. I'm still going to back Bowser because I really don't know what to think of L-Block anymore. I'd still take Sora > Kratos, too.

I think the whole match being on the release date factor is being overrated anyway.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:36:53 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #165
come on, contest, throw us a bone!


Squall > Snake, aww yeah.
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creativename | Posted 3/8/2010 9:37:31 AM | message detail
So it looks like a day match between Sora/Bowser would've been real tight, with Sora being a favorite but not a huge one.

Charizard looks like he'll be a slight underdog against Bowser. Think he'll finish with like 61.5% here. The fact that the Bowser match is a day match helps. It being a weekend counters that somewhat, but he still gets to avoid the Mario morning vote. And Zard's night vote is probably better than Bowser's too.

I'm kinda hoping Zard wins just because Mario/Bowser II is pretty weak. Mairo vs. Charizard is quite interesting though.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:37:36 AM | message detail
I feel like we've seen this before...

L-Block > Ryu (through 2008), therefore...

Charizard may as well be 60-40ing Ryu going into the divisional finals.

Bowser impresses in a match against a Square character who was the heavy Board 8 favorite.

Bowser's gonna rSFF Charizard on his way to victory!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:37:40 AM | message detail
Pokemon fans, how big is HG/SS? As I understand it, it's not actually a new title, so at first glance I wouldn't expect it to equal SMS or TP in effect, but what do you think?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:38:37 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #170
Pokemon fans, how big is HG/SS? As I understand it, it's not actually a new title, so at first glance I wouldn't expect it to equal SMS or TP in effect, but what do you think?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3463

Pretty big.

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:39:11 AM | message detail
Charizard may as well be 60-40ing Ryu going into the divisional finals.

60-40ing Ryu would make Charizard a serious contender to take down Mario once HG/SS comes out.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:39:16 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #170
Pokemon fans, how big is HG/SS? As I understand it, it's not actually a new title, so at first glance I wouldn't expect it to equal SMS or TP in effect, but what do you think?


Its a remake I'm seeing like no hype for in general on gaming sites liek Kotaku, Joystiq and Gamespot; but who knows, maybe the Pokefreaks will like it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:39:36 AM | message detail
To elaborate, everyone loves Gold/Silver. It's got the nostalgia of the old games with the improved game mechanics of the newer games, and - possibly the biggest reason - you get to visit all of the old areas from RBY in it, with Red being the final boss of the game.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:40:38 AM | message detail
So it looks like a day match between Sora/Bowser would've been real tight, with Sora being a favorite but not a huge one.

I disagree with this one. If Bowser/Sora had started at noon, Bowser would've been at 56-57% going into the ASV, based on how he did with those last three hours. Sora's not coming back from that.

Speaking of which:

Time | Sora | Bowser | Votes
0:05 | 43.04% | 56.96% | 1364
1:00 | 45.36% | 54.64% | 10177
2:00 | 45.96% | 54.04% | 5898
3:00 | 45.76% | 54.24% | 4189
4:00 | 46.82% | 53.18% | 3110
5:00 | 48.14% | 51.86% | 2470
6:00 | 45.30% | 54.70% | 2362
7:00 | 46.47% | 53.53% | 3131
8:00 | 46.54% | 53.46% | 3552
9:00 | 45.33% | 54.67% | 4068
10:00 | 42.88% | 57.12% | 4102
11:00 | 44.08% | 55.92% | 4480
12:00 | 42.77% | 57.23% | 4321

Sora had one really good hour in the middle of the night, but nothing else even close to that. The morning vote was actually about the same as the night vote, but the later part of the match (the beginning of the DSV) was Bowser Zone.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:44:09 AM | message detail
http://www.gamespot.com/

Like check near the bottom, their most popular games in terms of hits... HG/SS isn't even in the top 10. I think people are really overrating the impact a remake can do. Its not like its generation 5.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:44:51 AM | message detail
I just point to how long Diamond and Pearl were the 1-2 FAQ when they were out and big. There's going to be a big influx of Pokemon fans on the match day and further on.

I'm not gonna say Charizard's a lock, but I will say that I'm extremely confident going into the match, especially after Zard finishes stomping L-Block today.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:45:40 AM | message detail
I just point to how long Diamond and Pearl were the 1-2 FAQ when they were out and big

Like how San Andreas was #1 when Ness beat CJ.

Wasn't a Pokemon game #1 when Xenogears beat G/S/C?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:46:10 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3833&region=CA

bad taste zone

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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:46:20 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #178
I just point to how long Diamond and Pearl were the 1-2 FAQ when they were out and big

Like how San Andreas was #1 when Ness beat CJ.

Wasn't a Pokemon game #1 when Xenogears beat G/S/C?


Plus WoW is always top #10 during its matches, and its always sucked.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:46:36 AM | message detail
That doesn't really mean that much. It could be that Xenogears would have won by even more if a Pokemon game hadn't been first in the FAQs.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/8/2010 9:47:17 AM | message detail
Wait, Leon, did you just lost a sig-bet? Because we have a sig-bet coming in three days...!


Anyway, Charizard's doing great...not necessarily impressing due to L-Block's weird nature, but you can't rule him out against Bowser with a performance like this. It doesn't help Bowser in this SFF-battle that Mario couldn't SFF Ike much/any and HG/SS comes out the day of their day-match. Bowser probably deserves to be the favorite because of his long-standing iconic presence in gaming and I'd take Sora > Kratos, but Bowser got Sora at night and I'd probably take day-Kratos > night-Sora. If the ASV sides with Charizard -- and it should -- I'll favor Charizard for their battle.

Reminder: if L-Block loses with 42.22% or less, Charizard takes the record for the biggest beating on a former character Battle champion. Also, if Charizard pulls another upset and beats Bowser, it'll be the first time since Vincent in 2005 that a newcomer won its division.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:47:34 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #181
That doesn't really mean that much. It could be that Xenogears would have won by even more if a Pokemon game hadn't been first in the FAQs.


Possibly, but the point is that being #1 in the FAQ listing doesn't mean a whole lot either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:48:02 AM | message detail
Wait, Leon, did you just lost a sig-bet? Because we have a sig-bet coming in three days...!

I saved a line for you...!

Not that you're going to be getting it!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:48:43 AM | message detail
Why is the board cutting off the right side of all the posts? >.<
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:50:36 AM | message detail
Let's see...Bowser got 63-64% on Frog. Charizard got around the same on Duke Nukem.

Frog vs. Duke Nukem?

Man, these stats suck. Frog probably does better with a night match, and Charizard probably does better with a day match.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/8/2010 9:50:51 AM | message detail
http://www.gamespot.com/

Like check near the bottom, their most popular games in terms of hits... HG/SS isn't even in the top 10. I think people are really overrating the impact a remake can do. Its not like its generation 5.


GameSpot? That worked well for Gordon Freeman supporters. Anyways, if you really want to go that route:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/topgames/

It's not too bad and it'll likely shoot up to #1 on the release date. Charizard seems to be in striking distance of Bowser to begin with. HGSS is just another advantage on Charizard's side.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:51:49 AM | message detail
He'd be without his best times in the Power Hour and and morning vote, and you think he'd get 56% before that ASV? That's nuts.

Bowser was doing better with the DSV than he was with the morning vote. He'd still rock the first hour no matter when you hold the poll.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/8/2010 9:52:48 AM | message detail
Pokemon fans, how big is HG/SS? As I understand it, it's not actually a new title, so at first glance I wouldn't expect it to equal SMS or TP in effect, but what do you think?

I'm not really a big Pokemon-guy, but.....

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3703
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/8/2010 9:53:10 AM | message detail
After watching the beatdown Bowser just put on Sora last night I don't think there's any question he could win a day, or 24 hour match.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:54:44 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #191
After watching the beatdown Bowser just put on Sora last night I don't think there's any question he could win a day, or 24 hour match.


I agree 100% with this. At the rate it was going, the best Sora could do was stall with the ASV. There was no way he was going to be able to turn around a giant beating like that, especially with Bowser going at 57% at the DSV
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creativename | Posted 3/8/2010 9:55:42 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #855
I disagree with this one. If Bowser/Sora had started at noon, Bowser would've been at 56-57% going into the ASV, based on how he did with those last three hours. Sora's not coming back from that.


I highly doubt he'd be at 56% with the latter DSV. The first part here seemed more like an extended morning vote.

In a day match Bowser would be without his traditional two best times, the NPH and the morning vote.

And again everyone massively underestimates just how awful Sora's first 12 hours are. He sucks throughout them, just less so at certain points. We know that Sora 2nd 12-hour gets 54.5+% on his 1st 12-hour self. Just lo

I'd peg Sora as the deserved favorite, but again not a huge one at all. The match would likely be very very close, and it'd be quite unlikely for the winner to get over 51%.
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jonthomson | Posted 3/8/2010 9:57:21 AM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 9:58:24 AM | message detail
Bowser would probably be up 7000 votes or so by the time we hit the ASV, if not more. Do you really think Sora would start cutting around that time with the ASV? Yes, I understand you cut all that out by starting the poll at noon, but the point is that Bowser was dominating the poll so thoroughly that I just don't see Sora turning it around that easily.

I don't think you can just look at first 12 hours Sora vs. second 12 hours Sora, slap 5% on him, and declare him a favorite.
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creativename | Posted 3/8/2010 9:58:37 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #909
Bowser was doing better with the DSV than he was with the morning vote. He'd still rock the first hour no matter when you hold the poll.


It's highly unlikely the winner would finish with over 51%. Again it'd be a close match.

And really, this 56% - I don't think you can base that just on a couple hours here. Sora would likely be down like a 1000 votes but he'd swing that; whether he'd win is another story. It'd be close, probably coming down to under 1000 votes for the winner.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/8/2010 9:58:45 AM | message detail
Would losing the Power Hour really matter though? Why are we assuming that people who are on at midnight to vote would NEVER EVER vote, and only exist for that one hour period?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/8/2010 9:59:57 AM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #197
Would losing the Power Hour really matter though? Why are we assuming that people who are on at midnight to vote would NEVER EVER vote, and only exist for that one hour period?


Generally, votes for day matches don't get much more than they would normally. Some people vote twice, majority don't.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/8/2010 10:00:10 AM | message detail
I'm not saying it wouldn't be close. I'm just saying that Sora probably still loses, and he lost so handily that I don't know how you can just call him a favorite just because you switch the time of the poll, regardless of how good he is with the day vote.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 3/8/2010 10:01:00 AM | message detail
Made some random division, how do you think it would go?

1)Bowser
16)Guybrush

8)Mewtwo
9)Frog

5)Zero
12)Red

4)Vivi
13)Ocelot

3)Dante
14)Gordon Freeman

6)Sub-Zero
11)Knuckles

7)Alucard
10)Donkey Kong

2)Zelda
15)Fawful
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