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Sonic is nearing .. 57/58%? Why did we ever doubt him.

Ever since the Noble Nine was created people have always tried to find characters to break it. They seriously thought Kirby had a better chance at beating Sonic than Ganondorf.
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Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby

Holy hell, I go to sleep with sonic in 54s.. now 57+? People finally get off his balls?
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hmmmmmmmm

So basically for Kirby to beat Sonic we have to say Rikku > Ganon.
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Man, either the four-ways have warped our minds, or Sonic is SFF'ing Ganon here. I'm taking the former to be true.

Maybe Sonic truly does suck when more options are available.
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Sonic trolling' trolling' trolling' harder than kefka.
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aw yeah, wake up to some Sonic domination. LOL 4-Ways.
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Man, either the four-ways have warped our minds, or Sonic is SFF'ing Ganon here. I'm taking the former to be true.

Maybe Sonic truly does suck when more options are available.

Indeed. That's just even more LOL 4WAYS for us to digest.
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The idea that the Villains Contest boosted Ganon and Bowser is completely not believable. The notion that someone would vote Bowser or Ganon just because they did well on Sephiroth the year before is pretty damn ridiculous.

It boosted their bracket support, but their actual strength - no. 2005 was the year of the Mario boost/Nintendo boost, that's obviously why Bowser did great.
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Bowser/Sora is now as hot as auron/squall imo.
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From: paulg235 | #1254
Maybe Sonic truly does suck when more options are available.

Why would that affect Sonic characters systematically, and no one else?

Sonic Team bad in 4-ways was just a silly and transparent excuse. Things change, and Sonic Team just sucked then. Lots of things are different this year than previous 1v1s as well.
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God yes, Sonic smashing that pig.
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From: voltch | #1259
Bowser/Sora is now as hot as auron/squall imo.

Hotter really, because the winner would be the favorite the next round, rather than jobbing to Snake.
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Sonic Team bad in 4-ways was just a silly and transparent excuse. Things change, and Sonic Team just sucked then. Lots of things are different this year than previous 1v1s as well.


It's a legit excuse. It was proven in 2k7/2k8, after sonic having his perhaps best year in 2k6. It was proven in the games contest as well. It's pretty obvious that vincent/squall/auron would not be bale to have 57%+ against ganon today. At least imo.
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From: creativename | #262
Hotter really, because the winner would be the favorite the next round, rather than jobbing to Snake.

Keep doubting Charizard! We love it when you do!
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"I beat him, and he says lightyears measure distance, not time. ..Dammit, Brock is on another planet." - SEP

Are people suddenly forgetting that Sonic Team sucked this year too?
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Now this is entertainment!

I'd like to acknowledge Charizard, but with that performance on Kratos... Bowser and Sora could do better than that on him.
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Are people suddenly forgetting that Sonic Team sucked this year too?


It looked like that in round 1. Now we know that Lightning was just pretty strong, old square got a boost by looking at amaterasu vs luigi/kefka performance/terra, and tails did nicely. I'd say they performed average.
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From: Biolizard28 | #265
Are people suddenly forgetting that Sonic Team sucked this year too?

Shadow did as expected against Ammy, Tails did well on Kratos, Cecil boosted big time like Kefka and Terra.

They haven't sucked one bit.
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Zard vs the winner f bowser/Sora will be too hot to handle.
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Are people suddenly forgetting that Sonic Team sucked this year too?

If Sonic goes and blows out Kirby easily, then we could say that Lightning was strong and not Sonic looking horrible against her.
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Heh, Knuckles looks decent even if you don't account for SFF. Damn. If Ganondrf = Sonic, him and Shadow are still near equal.
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From: MarioSuperstar | #271
Heh, Knuckles looks decent even if you don't account for SFF. Damn. If Ganondrf = Sonic, him and Shadow are still near equal.

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From: paulg235 | #268
Shadow did as expected against Ammy, Tails did well on Kratos, Cecil boosted big time like Kefka and Terra.

Shadow was expected to win, Cecil was SFF'd in 2008 so we couldn't tell if he hadn't already boosted, and Tails is the only exception.

Maybe new Sonic is failing and old Sonic is keeping support, but there's no reason to be singing Sonic Team's praises for being a disappointment.
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wait, ganondorf = luigi i meant.
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From: Biolizard28 | #273
Shadow was expected to win

People still doubting Ammy's strength, it seems.
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I don't understand.

Shadow was expected to win, Cecil was SFF'd in 2008 so we couldn't tell if he hadn't already boosted, and Tails is the only exception.

Maybe new Sonic is failing and old Sonic is keeping support, but there's no reason to be singing Sonic Team's praises for being a disappointment.


Looking at round 2. No, Shadow was not "expected" to win. Amaterasu did insanely well on luigi. Cecil has been in dissidia. I was skeptical until I saw Kefka/terra owning it up. I mean over 35% from terra on squall. Kefka nearly 39% on bowser in an afternoon match. Then we have tails impressing on kratos who hit 46+ on charizard. When you really look at it, they did decent.
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Go go Pyrozard.
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Why would that affect Sonic characters systematically, and no one else?

If it were true, the reasoning would probably be that everybody knows who Sonic is and a lot of people like him, but, unproportionally, not as many people have him amongst their faves. There's no reason why this can't affect Sonic characters systematically and no one else. Just a matter on if you believe it or not.

Of course, I really think it was just Sonic team weakening. If you take into consideration the gameFAQs demographic, the majority are probably now those who started gaming in the N64/PS1 era. And that was a generation where Sonic was completely AWOL outside of Sonic R. Sonic team dropping was inevitable.
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From: Sonic_Factor | #277
No, Shadow was not "expected" to win.

He was favored by the oracle and the guru.

What do you call that?
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They were wrong? I meant in round 2 amaterasu/luigi, it became evident that Shadow should never have been expected to win.
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hmmmmmmmm

Aww yeah, Sonic taking that pig to school.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Saying Shadow wasn't the favourite to win is wrong, but at the same time we thought Amaterasu was weaker than she really was.
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Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby

Not saying that. He was the favorite, but I don't think he would ever have been that favored if people knew amaterasu's real strength.
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hmmmmmmmm

before I leave, I'm going to make a bold (and possibly hilariously misguided) prediction: Kirby overperforms today against Vivi and gets around 62%.
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I'd peg him at 53.xx
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darn you bacondorf always making ganon look bad
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Moltar Status: Prediction: Sonic > Ganondorf (110/136)
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Match C: (3) Kirby vs. (7) Vivi

Last Round

Kirby – 68.40%
GlaDOS – 31.60%

Vivi – 55.79%
Altair – 44.21%

Analysis

While no one is betting on an upset at the same time people aren’t expecting blowout either. Kirby may have looked decent last round, but his first round match was more telling. Vivi on the other hand recently pulled off an impressive win over Altair though like Kirby his first round match is probably more telling about his strength. This is our 100th match of the contest and as much as I like for this match to be special I’m not feeling the special vibe.

Kirby’s performance in the first round was telling that the pink ball is not as close to the elites as some people think he is. At the same time Rikku is no pushover and the match did occur at night meaning that Kirby would have performed a bit better had the match been 24 hours. Vivi not only performed the same against Donkey Kong as their match in 2004, but he did that in a night match and while Donkey Kong is stronger than the average Nintendo character at night people expected a lot more from the black mage.

When I brought up that the winner of the four-pack had a chance at breaking 45% on Kirby I was called crazy. Well the chance is still there, likely, probably not. This is a day match after all and while I would take Vivi over Rikku in a direct match Kirby does have a chance of beating Vivi worse because of the time shift. Either way unless Kirby dominates this match I don’t see him having much of a chance next round.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kirby > Liquid Snake

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kirby wins, 56.63% - 43.37%

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Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby

Ammy always gets underestimated. Her advancement to Round 3 in her 2007 debut ranks among the top 25 least-predicted results of all time; this year's round 1 win is among the top 25 "biggest surprises" of the first round all-time, and 2008 "merely" got her on the list of 10 most surprising Round 1 results of the year. Okami may be a bit too cult to do well in a Games Contest, but Ammy does really well, and her upcoming foray into the handheld realm should give her a little bit of a boost next year. Definitely a legit midcarder, which is more than I can say for Shadow.

On another note, since it's clear that consoles>handhelds where Games Contests (and to a lesser degree, Character Battles) are concerned, perhaps for our next off-season contest (can't really call it a "Spring Contest" since we're getting our usual Summer Contest in the winter this year), we should have a handheld-only Games Contest.

...nah, too predictable. Bacon would naturally divide it up by eras, and we'd be left with an inevitable final of Pokemon R/B/Y vs. something Square (most likely some sort of Final Fantasy, with the portable Kingdom Hearts games a viable dark horse). Also, we haven't even had a 64-entrant contest since the CJC days, much less the 32-entrant brackets of Spring '05 and Spring '06 (which would probably be what we'd need here--then again, maybe 64 could work.) Just tossing ideas out there, really.
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Wow, Sonic got up to 57%. Well, that's impressive, and what Sonic needed to show he has a chance against the Crono/Vincent/Squall group.

Let's see.....using the Ganon/Luigi comparison from 2007, we could guess Sonic wins this 54-46 against normal Ganondorf, and maybe 53-47 if it were a 24-hour match. That's still not at the level of Sonic 2006 considering that Ganon 2006 was on TP hype steroids, but it looks better than Sonic looked in 2008. It's probably still doesn't put him on the level of Crono/Vincent/Squall, but he would have a decent chance of winning a day match.
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Why do people say Ganondorf was on steroids in 2006 it doesn't seem that he's dropped since then.
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Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby

There is no way I'd take squall or vincent do have 57%+ atm on ganondorf. nothing is ever good enough for red
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hmmmmmmmm

Ganondorf was projected to get 58% on Luigi in 2006. He got 52% and then 49% in 2007.
Zelda got 56% on Aeris in 2006 and 79% on Terra in 2006. She got 44% on Vincent in 2007.
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Wow, total obliteration. It would take huge contest zaniness for Kirby to challenge Sonic now; I'm feeling great about the blur's chances.
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kirby should do better than ganondorf, mainly cause Sonic is doing worse in NA and it will be an afternoon match.
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hmmmmmmmm

Why do people say Ganondorf was on steroids in 2006 it doesn't seem that he's dropped since then.

...Eh, I doubt that Ganondorf could muster 40%+ on Samus if they met again.
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Vincent was projected to get 40.45% on samus in 2k6. Ganondorf only got 47.40% on Vincent. It's pretty evident that ganondorf overperformed. In those years, samus had shown she was very susceptible to sff.
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Kirby has little to no chance now- Vivi's got a better chance of upsetting him today than Kirby's got of upsetting Sonic next round.

There is no way I'd take squall or vincent do have 57%+ atm on ganondorf. nothing is ever good enough for red

This result is not so far out of line with what I'd been expecting for a couple months, though I admit it is very far out of line with what I said yesterday. And it has changed my mind- I now see Crono/Vincent/Squall vs. Sonic as a 52-48 kind of match instead of a 55+ win for the Square characters.
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so they'd have nearly 59% on ganon atm?
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Ganondorf was projected to get 58% on Luigi in 2006. He got 52% and then 49% in 2007.

Ganondorf was expected to get 56% not 58% that's Vincent you are thinking of.
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Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby