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Lightning will be solid, probably the strongest new character in a long time. Sazh should be good, too. Everyone else, though, probably sub-FFX.

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From: LeonhartFour | #150
ExTha admits Lightning > Sephiroth you heard it here first folkjs

god damnit I am going to bed
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"I beat him, and he says lightyears measure distance, not time. ..Dammit, Brock is on another planet." - SEP

Sephiroth wasn't on that list. Sephiroth > Cloud > Lightning > Link, obviously.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X

Who is that emo looking chick with the black hair and the tattoos in FFXIII? She's kind of hot. I bet she'll be the Auron of that game.

Why is everyone expecting so much from Lightning?
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From: Hochimihnister | #154
Who is that emo looking chick with the black hair and the tattoos in FFXIII? She's kind of hot. I bet she'll be the Auron of that game.

She looks like Rinoa if she were re-designed to be in FFX-2.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

Fang is horrible, there's nothing good there. She does have an awesome design, though.

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Oh, and does anyone actually take Big Boss > Kirby? I'm just curious.
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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

FFXIII is the biggest Square game in 9 years. Although now that I think about it, Lightning won't have an appearance in Kingdom Hearts yet, so I'll probably not consider taking her over Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, etc. until after her presumed appearance in KH3.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!!
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X

By the way, how many of the following characters will you take Lightning to beat next year?

Tidus
Vivi
Zack Fair
Zero
Luigi
Tifa
Kirby
Big Boss
Zelda
Leon Kennedy
Dante
Ryu

I'll be sweating bullets trying to figure out where she'll land next year.
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Congrats to Krahenprophet for his well-deserved victory.

Why is everyone expecting so much from Lightning?

The fact that she put up almost 39% on Sonic without a game might have something to do with it.
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FFXIII causes a GameFAQs Square shift Cloud > Link confirmed

You might say it's going to be a...

*sunglasses*

Paradigm Shift.

...

*goes back to lurking*
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"The courtroom is the garden of holy judgment. Those with lechery in their hearts should leave this sanctuary at once!" ~Franziska von Karma

Her name is Fang? What kind of name is that? That's atrocious. I don't know anything about 13, so don't spoil anything but aren't these the names of some of the characters


Lightning
Snow
Hope
Vanilla
...Fang


These are all stupid. What happened to names like Freya, Auron, Vivi, Laguna etc.

More like a little more than 36%, but close enough!
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

I am so annoyed of FF7 winning everything. Not every good video game is based on PLOT/STORYLINE. There is the multiplayer and online play aspect as well you know.
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Hey, I can't be expected to remember everything !
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Lightning should be great because she's the kind of character that GameFAQs likes, but it's probably a good idea to see how much this place likes the game before getting too crazy. She'll still be a step below the Squalls and Aurons and Vincents of the world.

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ff7 always wins yessss

...in other news, Ganondork king of the night vote
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FFXIII should win GOTY no problem. What's going to stop it?

I think lightnings strength will depend heavily on how people(especially NA) receive FF13. I've compared her power to pre halo 3 MC, and we know what happened when halo 3 came out. MC went from N9 to mid mid carder. FF > Halo on this site though, so she might not be affected as much as him.
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hmmmmmmmm

Yeah, I hope we get a Favorite FF Game poll once we get done with this contest to get a gauge on what the site thinks of the game. We saw that FFXII couldn't even beat FFIX in the aftermath of its release, and Balthier performed accordingly. FFX beat FFVI for 2nd place, and their characters have been strong.
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

I've compared her power to pre halo 3 MC, and we know what happened when halo 3 came out.

Stop doing that. Chief was an established character. Lightning is not.
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It's a good example > > I'm sure Squall would be insanely strong if the contest took place in 1998, pre ff8. FF is the second most popular series here. A new lead is going to be insanely hyped. Especially when it's on both 360/ps3.
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hmmmmmmmm

Lightning beat Sonic in Japan.
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KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest.

No, it's actually a terrible example.
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You act as if I'm ignoring MCs already established strength... MC was bottom lvl N9 with hype.. Lightning is no where near it, but it's pretty obvious her strength is from the insane hype FF13 has.
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hmmmmmmmm

Comparing Lightning hype to MC hype is incredibly dumb. Lightning has no game yet.

She should certainly boost close to around 30% x-stat level at least. Possibly higher.

Considering she's a main character, I don't think people should be shocked if she does end up at say Squall/Vincent/Auron/Tifa level. Squall's the only main character in the bunch there. I don't think she will but it's not impossible.

Auron was always at 30+% level and he's not even the main character, and XIII should be almost as big as X. If X's main character had actually been beloved instead of...Tidus, he'd probably be stronger than Vincent/Squall/Tifa even without Kingdom Hearts. X was bigger than XIII will probably be but not by overly much I think.

Also XIII is multi-platform. Her day vote will easily surpass the other FF character day votes, most likely.
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Bowser will lose because I picked him and I never get close to the final top 50.

In all seriousness though, I've always said Bowser is the favourite here. The night match factor was the primary reason I took him. KH characters are simply night and day... between their night and day votes >_>

Also, even in a 24 hour match I'd heavily consider Bowser. Stop using lol4way stats. Seriously, give me a reason as to why an iconic character, that everyone knows, like Bowser to suddenly drop in 2007/2008. Look at the 1v1 stats. Sora was only really good in 2006 and I'm convinced that was an overperformance. I'm sure some of you will argue "pic factor" in 2005 against Snake.. but a great pic does not just give a character a 10+% boost. Even then Snake was weaker that year than 2006.

I'm really happy with the picture in their match too. Very nice.
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CBVIII: 75/87 - 92 pts, tied for 385th
Day Pick: Dante Night Pick: Solid Snake

You can't compare Lightning to Master Flop.


In one game, you're a guy with a helmet shooting people. In the other, you're a hot chick with pink hair and a sword. Which one is more appealing to the average GameFAQsian?

I'd be pretty hesitant to say where FFXIII will end up. It's such a divisive game in such a different time that I wouldn't necessarily even be sure that it's a whole lot better than FFXII. It's got a major range depending on how people take to it. It could down there with FFXII or up with FFX, it's tough to say until people get their hands on it.

Lightning will be good, though. Either way, she should still be strong.

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I'm sure some of you will argue "pic factor" in 2005 against Snake.. but a great pic does not just give a character a 10+% boost.

Frog tells us it's considerably more than that!

Even then Snake was weaker that year than 2006.

Which makes his inability to defeat 2k5 sprite snake even less impressive.
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In all seriousness though, I've always said Bowser is the favourite here. The night match factor was the primary reason I took him. KH characters are simply night and day... between their night and day votes >_>

Also, even in a 24 hour match I'd heavily consider Bowser. Stop using lol4way stats. Seriously, give me a reason as to why an iconic character, that everyone knows, like Bowser to suddenly drop in 2007/2008. Look at the 1v1 stats. Sora was only really good in 2006 and I'm convinced that was an overperformance. I'm sure some of you will argue "pic factor" in 2005 against Snake.. but a great pic does not just give a character a 10+% boost. Even then Snake was weaker that year than 2006.

Even ignoring 4-ways, Bowser looked bad in 2006. Only 55% on Leon Kennedy followed by destruction by the weakest Crono we've ever seen.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

If Zelda Wii is actually revealed and released this year, FFXIII might get scooped. Unless the Zelda game is underwhelming, I doubt FFXIII will be stronger on this site, not after TP has repeatedly proven to be much stronger than the last FF.
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Yeah, Zelda Wii would probably rock FFXIII pretty hard. Not as bad as TP did FFXII, but it would probably be a clear GOTY unless it went horribly wrong or something.

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Top tiers do well on this match and the prediction percentage fads as you go down.

Round 3 means missing a match starts to really hurt. All 4 people on the Top 50 who got the match wrong fell off. bospsychopaat, sonic_nhl, GreatGen and TheMightyPeanut did not have Luigi winning.
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creativename | Posted 3/6/2010 12:44:44 AM | message detail
Ryu overcame the hockey game to beat Dante.

Actually it may have just been that the hockey game viewers delayed their votes, because the instant after the medal ceremony ended he got a huge surge of votes.

Wait what incident?

I must've missed something one day.

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NP: Sonic the Hedgehog > Ganondorf | Kirby > Liquid Snake

From: ffmasterjose | #186
creativename | Posted 3/6/2010 12:44:44 AM | message detail
Ryu overcame the hockey game to beat Dante.

Actually it may have just been that the hockey game viewers delayed their votes, because the instant after the medal ceremony ended he got a huge surge of votes.

Wait what incident?

I must've missed something one day.

He said "instant"....
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CBVIII: 75/87 - 92 pts, tied for 385th
Day Pick: Dante Night Pick: Solid Snake

Oh yeah, didn't you miss the entire Ryu/Dante match? It birthed "Hockey Factor," wherein we deduced that Ryu was being hindered by the US/Canada gold medal hockey match, as it was being contested by two countries that were supporting Ryu. When the game was on, Dante gained. When it ended, Ryu came charging back. Ryu even made some charges during lengthy commercial breaks.

Definitely the best 12 hours of the contest imo.
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Stop using lol4way stats. Seriously, give me a reason as to why an iconic character, that everyone knows, like Bowser to suddenly drop in 2007/2008. Look at the 1v1 stats.

I'm looking at the 1v1 stats, and they tell me Bowser didn't suddenly drop in 2007/2008. He was already down there in 2006. He definitely hasn't looked as strong as he did in 2005 this year, unless we're arguing Kefka would give Ryu a good fight. The reason he did so well in 2005 was because he was coming fresh off the Villains Contest. Same with Ganondorf.
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By the way, speaking of the Stats Topic's favorite game of all time:

http://www.ticketnews.com/Winter-Olympics-ratings-may-not-translate-into-better-NHL-ticket-sales3104837

The past weekend's men's Gold Medal final in ice hockey at the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Games was one for the record books. The tournament's rematch between Canada and the U.S. (the U.S. won the first game earlier in the week with a score of 5-3) drew 27.6 million viewers on this side of the border. This made it the most watched hockey game here since the "Miracle on Ice" in 1980, in which the U.S. beat the USSR. Over 16 million Canadian viewers tuned for last Sunday's game, which turns out to be about half the country.

A final bit of puck for this contest. =)
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Keep in mind that Bowser's 55% on Leon Kennedy was against a potentially weaker Leon than the one we got in more recent years. 2006 was before Leon got RE4 on the Wii (it's sold just as much as RE4 on the GameCube).

Bowser definitely hell off significantly between 05 and 06. I still say Sora has a very good chance because of this, but Bowser is still the favorite because of the time frame and because his fat ass kinda dominates the pic.
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Sonic's starting to go up now that we're in the deep night vote! C'mon, give us Lightning > Mewtwo! Sonic has to have 55.45% or better for that to be the case.
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hell = fell (Bowser you fill me with such sinful thoughts)
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How much stronger do you think a third port to a similar fanbase made Leon, though? RE4 Wii sold well, but after being on both the GCN and PS2, I don't know that you're reaching a much different audience with that. You've got the Nintendo fans, the Sony fans, and the more casual fans covered with those two systems. Not saying it did nothing for Leon, but I can't see there being any noteworthy boost from that.

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Still, it's kinda funny how, despite looking like crap after 2005, Bowser's the favorite over Sora.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

So will the lol x-stats this year be pretty much the most lol worthy of all non-4ways (really looking like even more lol worthy than those).
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Well, if we assume 2006 Leon is approximately equal to the one Dante beat last year (Dante got 52.40% in round 2. Leon did noticeably worse in round 3, where Dante got 56.96% on him), you end up with either Bowser beating Dante with 53.20% or Dante beating Bowser with 51.70%.

In round 2 of 2007, Ryu beat Bowser with 52.08%.

Huh, ends up being pretty close based on Dante/Leon round 3 there.
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I think there was. Just the fact that it nearly matched Gamecube sales despite being released 2.5 years later means it was reaching >some new players. Remember that it was released as a budget title for $30. I can easily see curious fans who've heard good things about this game try it out for the hot new console. Either way, I don't think the Leon who put up 60% on Gordon (PRE-Orange Box Gordon) is as strong as the one who got nearly 57% on Vivi. Heck, Bowser took a big 1v1 drop even if you think 2006 Leon was at his prime, but Bowser looks even worse if you think that Leon may have been weaker then than he is now.
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Well, a cheap price and new controls also tend to encourage people to rebuy the game, especially if they only bought the GCN one the first time around and missed out on the PS2 extras. It came out during a time when the Wii was kinda hurting for games, too, which couldn't hurt. I just don't know how many people new people you're netting with the game. I could see it being enough to give him a boost that year, maybe, because it makes RE4 a little more relevant and new again, but other than that, I don't think Leon's had much difference in popularity since RE4 PS2 hit. Maybe there's some stats to back it up or something, but if there isn't, I wouldn't count on it.

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We should not be holding Bowser's 4-way performances against him. He was being leeched by somebody in all four 4-way matches he's been in (Mewtwo/Toad in R1 of '07, Shadow in R2 of '07, Geno in R1 of '08 and Luigi/Phoenix in R2 of '08).

This simply tells us that Bowser is a big leech and possibly that Mario characters benefit from 1vs1. Of course the only year when Mario characters really looked good in a 1vs1 setting was '05, but whatever.