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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 865

red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:58:56 PM | message detail
Over the first 12 hours in PW/Geno/Deckard, Bowser had 43.27% of the vote. The rest of the match, he got 46.85%. That gives Bowser nearly 54% on his night self!

Unfortunately, PW is probably the most unbalanced character ever. This is the guy that was even with Magus through half an hour, and STILL lost 57-43.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 9:59:17 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #097
If Sora is going to lose, I'd much rather it be in two days. I'm pretty confident in Bowser being able to take the Nintendo SFF and beat Charizard with it, whether it's night or day or during a Pokemon launch. It's kinda hard (for me, anyway) to picture the Nintendo fanbase siding with Pokemon's big tough dragon monster guy over the top dragon monster guy Nintendo has had for 25 years.

And that would keep me in the Guru running, I believe. Sorry Ex!


I have faith in the Zard. He's winning that division, no matter who it's against.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:59:23 PM | message detail
Aw yeah, PW!

I know, I just wanted to make it as imbalanced as possible!
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irriadin | Posted 3/5/2010 10:01:57 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #098
Actually, for most of the platformers, you only see Bowser a few times. Yeah, there's SMB1 where he's the boss of each world, but after that, he's a final boss and if you're lucky appears for one or two more boss battles. Hell, ever since Sunshine you see Bowser Jr. much more often than Bowser himself.

Ganondorf didn't have much of a role in TP and is nothing more than a final boss for LoZ1 and LttP (well, besides the whole Agahnim thing), but he does have a large presence in WW and though he only has a few parts in OoT, they're incredibly memorable and his effects on Adult Link Hyrule can affect the player a bit.

So I'd say Ganondorf's a bigger presence in his series than Bowser, who's pretty much semi-retired at this point since his son's the one doing all the work now.


Yes but. Ganondorf's presence in TP is noticeably "tacked-on." Bowser, on the other hand, has been used exhaustively in all the recent Mario RPG games (including Bowser's Inside Story). I guess you can argue that the overall popularity of the Mario RPG series is questionable, yet that doesn't change the fact that Bowser's gotten considerably more screen-time than Ganondorf.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:02:28 PM | message detail
I'd take Bowser > charizard, I can't see the majority of nintendo fans siding with char.. It's like mario vs samus
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:02:42 PM | message detail
You know, if you still assume that Mewtwo >= Midna in 2008, Sora beats Sonic with 51.13% of the vote based on Ganon's current percentage on Sonic!

I think that's far enough above Bowser to be safe!
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 10:03:11 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #503
Aw yeah, PW!

I know, I just wanted to make it as imbalanced as possible!


I on the other hand am trying to use the most reasonable numbers possible.

Bowser is more day oriented, but not nearly as much as Sora if you go look back at his match. Sora is one of the most unbalanced (the most unbalanced?) high midcard or above character we have. It's just ridiculous with him.

His day vote is Godzilla-stomp-Tokyo level.

His night vote is Godzilla Jr. blowing smoke circles level.
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 10:04:17 PM | message detail
Although I really, really hope Leon's just smarter than the rest of us here in his Sora faith.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:05:37 PM | message detail
Charizard doesn't have much of a chance against Bowser OR Sora, I don't think. He only beat Kratos with 54.5%, and both Bowser and Sora would easily outdo that.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:05:41 PM | message detail
We really need to see Crono vs. Sora in a 24-hour match, so we can see Crono build a 15,000 vote lead and then have Sora cut off a couple thousand with the ASV anyway.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 10:05:49 PM | message detail
Leon, your persistence is admirable, but Bowser really does have every advantage going in. He's got the big timeframe advantage and a mild picture advantage. I'm just pulling numbers here, but for Sora to beat him at night, wouldn't he have to put a good 53-54% on him during the day? I'm just not sure if he's that much stronger than Bowser. My money is on Bowser, but it's been on Bowser the last two contests and he's ****ed it up both times. Third time's a charm, chump!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:06:29 PM | message detail
but for Sora to beat him at night, wouldn't he have to put a good 53-54% on him during the day?

I don't see any problems here!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 10:06:31 PM | message detail
No argument about Ganondorf being tacked-on to TP. And while Bowser does get a huge amount of his development from the Mario RPGs, most people haven't really played them (which is a damn shame) so they don't really know the development Bowser gets in them (which is basically how much of a pathetic crybaby Bowser is, though I haven't played M&L3 yet).

Between Ganondorf having a slightly larger presence in his main series and his main series being the most popular on the site, I'd still go Ganondorf > Bowser enough that I don't think the pic would affect the overall outcome.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 10:06:40 PM | message detail
We already know this, but man, Leon is boned against Ryu.

(Hahahaha! Dammit! Not again...!)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 10:06:54 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #109
Charizard doesn't have much of a chance against Bowser OR Sora, I don't think. He only beat Kratos with 54.5%, and both Bowser and Sora would easily outdo that.


Yeah, but that's not factoring in Poke-launch day or any type of momentum he may pick up after stomping L-Block. I wouldn't be worried about Sora/Charizard if not for those intangibles.
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 10:07:37 PM | message detail
Oh, and to compare against his full day self, using the Fox/Yoshi/Squall match Sora (Full) gets 52.93% against Sora (Night). Using Cloud/Squall/Mewtwo he gets 53.43%.

So basically Sora has to be able to get maybe 53% on Bowser in a full day match to win (unless I screwed up the math logic, which I may have). Which again is quite possible, just tough.

And the sprite pic doesn't bode well for him either.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 3/5/2010 10:07:54 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #113
which is basically how much of a pathetic crybaby Bowser is, though I haven't played M&L3 yet)


Correct this problem immediately, because Bowser jumped up into my top 15 video game characters with his awesomeness in that game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:08:14 PM | message detail
Man, the sprite pic isn't a problem! There isn't a huge advantage or disadvantage there for that to be a factor!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:08:21 PM | message detail
Charizard no chance against the Block anyway !
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:08:43 PM | message detail
Curious but what do people think Vincent/Squall would be doing here today?
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 10:09:15 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #551
Leon, your persistence is admirable, but Bowser really does have every advantage going in. He's got the big timeframe advantage and a mild picture advantage. I'm just pulling numbers here, but for Sora to beat him at night, wouldn't he have to put a good 53-54% on him during the day? I'm just not sure if he's that much stronger than Bowser. My money is on Bowser, but it's been on Bowser the last two contests and he's ****ed it up both times. Third time's a charm, chump!


Heh yes, I just ditto'd you I guess :)

I do love Bowser so I'm not fond of him being called a chump! ...although sadly in the Mario series he pretty always is the chump, but eh.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:09:19 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #120
Curious but what do people think Vincent/Squall would be doing here today?


Winning.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:09:30 PM | message detail
I guess it's a testament to how bad I am at this that I didn't even know HGSS' release day when I picked Charizard to win his division.

Talk about taking a shot in the dark and getting lucky. >.>
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:09:38 PM | message detail
Ya, but by how much
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:10:49 PM | message detail
...although sadly in the Mario series he pretty always is the chump, but eh.

Bowser's Inside Story changes this!

And the funny thing is that I'm actually going to be rooting for Bowser to beat Sora! I don't even like Sora that much! I just like arguing for my bracket!

Oh, and everyone has to be listening to this when the match starts!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5I16yaEp8o
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:11:48 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent/Squall/Tifa/Auron would be getting.....53-56% here. Auron got just under 54% last year.

The night match favors all of them over Sonic, while it hurts Ganondorf a little. None of them have the handicap of Bacondorf of course.
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 10:11:51 PM | message detail
Right now I'd say Vincent/Squall/Auron would 50/50 Sonic in a 24-hour match, but the variance is high because the data we have is outdated. Either Sonic or the Square characters may win comfortably. But I think it'd be real close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:18:16 PM | message detail
Aw yeah, 1000 vote lead get!

Chart from yesterday's match:

Time | Luigi | The Cube | Votes
0:05 | 65.31% | 34.69% | 885
1:00 | 64.59% | 35.41% | 8939
2:00 | 64.09% | 35.91% | 7426
3:00 | 63.31% | 36.69% | 7160
4:00 | 65.11% | 34.89% | 7627
5:00 | 64.72% | 35.28% | 7534
6:00 | 65.42% | 34.58% | 6854
7:00 | 64.72% | 35.28% | 6395
8:00 | 64.33% | 35.67% | 5685
9:00 | 66.83% | 33.17% | 4983
10:00 | 66.77% | 33.23% | 4418
11:00 | 65.96% | 34.04% | 4201
12:00 | 63.29% | 36.71% | 3751

Kinda strange how Luigi did better late in this match (aside from the last hour where Cube did really well). His three best hours all came in the last four hours (and so did his worst, but whatever). Not a whole lot of shifting here though.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:18:21 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent/Squall/Tifa/Auron


Tifa >_> really? She's a decent bit weaker than those others imo.. I mean, she scored like 4% worse on sonic in 2k6 than vincent.. or w/e year it was.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:19:21 PM | message detail
Tifa's the real deal, son! She's gonna prove it against Sephiroth!

Actually, I think she's just a step below the rest of those guys, but not much. Just enough to where she doesn't beat any of them, but she gives them a good match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:20:49 PM | message detail
That was before KH2. It's been really hard to tell how strong she is since then, because first the Female Bracket happened (LOL 49% on Samus) and then she missed a contest and then got fed to Sephiroth. There's been a number of matches pointing at Tifa being very close to Vincent, though it wouldn't be surprising if she weren't (in either direction).
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2010 10:21:09 PM | message detail
Welcome back to respectability, Sonic. We've missed you.

I feel good about Sonic beating Kirby right now. Ganon has pretty much always been stronger than Kirby when he's not band-wagoned and Kirby wasn't that great against Rikku (don't expect him to impress against Vivi in eleven hours, either). Sonic and hindsight is showing us that one of our old theories is true: four-ways were terrible to Sonic Team. Kirby will have an advantage over Ganon by having a day-match instead of losing a lot of his support in a night-match, but Sonic's generally (at least formerly) strong enough with the day-vote that it shouldn't make a killer difference.

I wonder if the Sonic-games would have done any better if BGE2 was one-on-one. Probably not since Sonic 2 bombed in BGE1, but it's a fun thought now that five years have past.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:21:15 PM | message detail
By the way, can I please make one of the stats topics during Seph/Missingno?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:21:19 PM | message detail
Tifa looks great against fodder, but ya.. she can't hang when it comes to those imo.. Id say 48-52 match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:21:55 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #133
By the way, can I please make one of the stats topics during Seph/Missingno?


I definitely want you to make a stats topic during that match if Missingno wins.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:22:35 PM | message detail
By the way, can I please make one of the stats topics during Seph/Missingno?

If the match is exciting, I suggest we alternate between Missingno and Sephiroth supporters.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:24:54 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #135
I definitely want you to make a stats topic during that match if Missingno wins.


If Missingno is winning decisively I don't think you'll see me on Board 8 for a while. >.>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:25:47 PM | message detail
By the way, how many of the following characters will you take Lightning to beat next year?

Tidus
Vivi
Zack Fair
Zero
Auron
Squall
Bowser
Luigi
Ganondorf
Crono
Sora
Tifa
Kirby
Big Boss
Zelda
Leon Kennedy
Dante
Ryu
Link
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 10:25:55 PM | message detail
Sure, I don't care. We kind of all had red sox make the topics during Crono's loss. It was fun watching him grow more and more broken in 5 minute increments.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 10:26:24 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #138
By the way, how many of the following characters will you take Lightning to beat next year?

Tidus
Vivi
Zack Fair
Zero
Auron
Squall
Bowser
Luigi
Ganondorf
Crono
Sora
Tifa
Kirby
Big Boss
Zelda
Leon Kennedy
Dante
Ryu
Link


Big Boss and Zack. No one else.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:27:06 PM | message detail
Hahah that sounds like fun. I'll give you guys the pleasure of experiencing my breakdown if Sephiroth loses, only if you promise not to hate me too much if Sephiroth wins. =)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:28:20 PM | message detail
Zack Fair probably gives Zero a good fight, and so does Big Boss! Heck, they probably both beat Tidus and Vivi, too!
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:28:24 PM | message detail
geez though, lightning was a beast for having no game outside of japan
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/5/2010 10:28:31 PM | message detail
By the way, how many of the following characters will you take Lightning to beat next year?

All of them.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:28:59 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #144
By the way, how many of the following characters will you take Lightning to beat next year?

All of them.


what Kleenex said. Lightning is going to own.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:29:36 PM | message detail
Wait I missed Link. >.>
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/5/2010 10:30:09 PM | message detail
watch out Link
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 10:30:42 PM | message detail
FFXIII causes a GameFAQs Square shift Cloud > Link confirmed
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 10:31:39 PM | message detail
Well, she's either going to get a big boost, or she might plummet like MC did post halo 3.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 10:31:58 PM | message detail
ExTha admits Lightning > Sephiroth you heard it here first folkjs
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