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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 865
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:06:16 PM | message detail |
The Ultimaterializer 24-Hour Match Pic Special! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· Currently Playing: Umineko, BioShock, Mario 64 DS, Emerald 386, Dissidia |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:22:45 PM | message detail |
bumpo --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/502993547/Kefka_-_Laugh_bigger.gif |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:22:48 PM | message detail |
> > --- hmmmmmmmm |
creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:01 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #2351 I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match. Literally like next to nothing. Maybe the Phillipines vote or something, I don't know. But if he does somehow pull it out, then I shall truly bow down to Mr. Clutch. And I just realized that if we see Seph>Snake and Squall>Auron, Sora losing to Bowser could single-handedly cost me the bracket contest. If it's Snake>Seph it'll probably single-handedly cost you the bracket. Hmmm. Darn you night match. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:10 PM | message detail |
2006?
Ganon was projected to get about 58% on Kirby in 2006. Keep in mind
Ganon and Zelda have taken a pretty steep tumble since then, after the
TP hype wore off. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:10 PM | message detail |
adaquete --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:14 PM | message detail |
Again, can someone give me Kirby and Ganon's 2006 values? Ganondorf with 58.20% --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:18 PM | message detail |
I'm guessing ganon might cut for a bit longer, than sonic will just take off --- hmmmmmmmm |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:44 PM | message detail |
I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match. What are you talking about? Of course he does. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:51 PM | message detail |
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:59 PM | message detail |
god damn just die ganon Given how much I like the ending of Twilight Princess, I find this hilarious. Dude just refuses to die in any game. Agreed. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:59 PM | message detail |
Ganon
is doing well to cut, but I hope Sonic has at least 54% by the end.
This isn't a bad job, but Kirby still scares me (even though he
probably is legitimately weaker than the 'dorf). Kirby won't have a
picture disadvantage, will have the board vote squarely in his side,
and will have voters that are more starved for a goofy upset. Sonic
sure as hell ain't out of the woods yet. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:24:01 PM | message detail |
Again, can someone give me Kirby and Ganon's 2006 values? Ganondorf beats Kirby 58.21% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:08 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #009 What factors does Sora have on his side? That it's a night match? Great we have to count on him building a big enough lead to not get slaughtered in the morning. --- "I beat him, and he says lightyears measure distance, not time. ..Dammit, Brock is on another planet." - SEP |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:16 PM | message detail |
yay a rise --- hmmmmmmmm |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:53 PM | message detail |
Dammit Ganon, just die already, you've lost. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:55 PM | message detail |
So after seeing this, which upset is more likely at this point, Kirby > Sonic or Missingno > Sephiroth? --- Not Wylvane |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:00 PM | message detail |
Sora
has the fact that Bowser has only looked good ONE year. He dropped in
2006, then completely fell off the map in 4-ways. 2005 was Bowser's
only impressive year for whatever reason. Sora has looked great the
last 3 years, and this year had 2 inconclusive matches against 2
unknown opponents. He'll squeak by Bowser, then ride his day vote to
victory over the dum pokemon --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:13 PM | message detail |
Man, you people are making way too much out of Bowser's average performances and too much out of Sora/Laharl! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:53 PM | message detail |
Okay someone other than Black Turtle tell me what Sora has going for him. --- "I beat him, and he says lightyears measure distance, not time. ..Dammit, Brock is on another planet." - SEP |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:08 PM | message detail |
Seriously,
the main advantage Bowser has is the fact that it's a night match. It
might be enough to win, admittedly, but in a day match, I'd be very
confident Sora wins that. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:12 PM | message detail |
Sora has looked a lot worse than Bowser this year, but that means nothing until they actually have their match. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:44 PM | message detail |
Missigno
beating Sephiroth is possible, at this point I don't give Kirby even a
token upset chance. Sonic has actually redeemed himself and may still
be capable of going toe to toe with Mega Man (rematch plx). --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:51 PM | message detail |
A
lot? Again, he looked fine against Midna! Especially when you compare
what Mewtwo did on Ganon, and how close Bowser and Ganondorf should be! Whoo! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
irriadin | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:04 PM | message detail |
I
can't see Sephiroth losing to MissingNo. I mean, I guess it's not
impossible but it seems very unlikely that it'll go from barely beating
Crono to defeating the third strongest character in the contest. --- "I do read sometimes." Mat Cauthon, The Wheel of Time. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:12 PM | message detail |
ganondorf beating sonic in canada.. no wonder the NA value is low compared to other areas. --- hmmmmmmmm |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:22 PM | message detail |
Even
with Nintendo doing well and KH being weak, I still think Sora's the
favorite of the two. He has the better contest history by far. What has
Bowser done contest-wise since 2005? --- Not Wylvane |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:52 PM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #027 Get LFF'd by Luigi and lose twice to a guy he beat with 59% two years before. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:01 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #009 Please tell me what! I'd love to know :) Being a clear step-and-a-half above Bowser in strength is his only real hope, and I doubt he's that much above Bowser. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:28 PM | message detail |
A
lot? Again, he looked fine against Midna! Especially when you compare
what Mewtwo did on Ganon, and how close Bowser and Ganondorf should be! Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:33 PM | message detail |
And hang on, people. Sonic isn't redeemed just because he can beat Bacondorf 55-45. Certainly not to his 2006 levels anyway. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:58 PM | message detail |
48% on Squall > losing decisively to Ryu --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:30:10 PM | message detail |
Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost. Judging Bowser off of a complete unknown (Dissidia Boost) isn't such a great idea. His performance against Frog would be a more accurate gauge. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:30:41 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #031 That's what he was expected to get in 2006! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:12 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #059 I don't really care about Sora/Laharl. It's the fact that Sora has always been weaksauce in the first 12 hours that's the problem. He's truly average without his beastly ASV. That Power Hour+Mario morning vote combo is killer, especially the former. From: LeonhartFour | #101 Well yeah, of course! That's the entire problem! --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:22 PM | message detail |
Bacondorf didn't exist in 2k6! --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:24 PM | message detail |
Do you think Ganondorf is as strong as in 2006? Especially with Bacondorf as his picture? --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:59 PM | message detail |
sonic is winning canada now --- hmmmmmmmm |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:02 PM | message detail |
But
to say Sora has NO advantages is incorrect! He has one big problem,
which may be enough to lose, but to say he has no advantages isn't true! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:02 PM | message detail |
Frog
more accurate? After years of him and his crew falling down the ranks,
and how every CT character performed like crap this contest? I'd rather go off of Kefka through Arthas (who doesn't have a reason to drop other than lol 4 ways) then through anyone from Chrono Trigger. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:10 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #033 Bowser was obviously getting AAF'd(Awesome Animal Factor) in that match --- This is good...isn't it? - Big motha****ing Boss |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:24 PM | message detail |
Frog
more accurate? After years of him and his crew falling down the ranks,
and how every CT character performed like crap this contest? Makes Bowser beating him look a little less impressive, huh? --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:46 PM | message detail |
Wow, I didn't realize how close Bowser and Sora seem to be in 2006. --- Not Wylvane |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:50 PM | message detail |
And hang on, people. Sonic isn't redeemed just because he can beat Bacondorf 55-45. Certainly not to his 2006 levels anyway. He's pretty close to 2006 plus considering that people had characters like Zack over him I say he's done pretty good. Once he 60/40 Kirby I think people will quiet down. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby |
Draco1214 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:33:27 PM | message detail |
Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost. Bowser drew Kefka in Kefka's worst time of the match, by far. If that had been a night match, NO ONE would be hyping Bowser now. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:33:52 PM | message detail |
No, just it's not accurate to say that Bowser looks good or bad because of his Frog match when Kefka is a better gauge to use. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:29 PM | message detail |
From KP: Sora 63.36% against Midna in a night match bowser 63.22% against Frog in a day match Midna>=Frog And people trying to say Bowser/Kefka was impressive is like me trying to spin Squall/Terra as an impressive match! It wasn't! --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:34 PM | message detail |
No,
he's not close to 2006 at all. 2010 Bacondorf is very far from 2006 TP
Hype Ganondorf. He's not a joke, and he wouldn't lose to Zack, but he's
nowhere near his 2006 strength. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 3: Sephiroth!!! Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:56 PM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #046 We don't even know where Kefka stands. What kind of gauge is that? He's an unknown. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:35:23 PM | message detail |
Bowser drew Kefka in Kefka's worst time of the match, by far. If that had been a night match, NO ONE would be hyping Bowser now. If you equal Kefka and Terra Bowser gets 46% on Squall, match will be pretty close either way. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 109/136 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Kirby |