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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 865

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:06:16 PM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:22:45 PM | message detail
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:22:48 PM | message detail
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:01 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #2351
Oh man, I hope the same thing isn't said about Bowser in two days.


I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match. Literally like next to nothing. Maybe the Phillipines vote or something, I don't know.

But if he does somehow pull it out, then I shall truly bow down to Mr. Clutch.

And I just realized that if we see Seph>Snake and Squall>Auron, Sora losing to Bowser could single-handedly cost me the bracket contest. If it's Snake>Seph it'll probably single-handedly cost you the bracket. Hmmm. Darn you night match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:10 PM | message detail
2006? Ganon was projected to get about 58% on Kirby in 2006. Keep in mind Ganon and Zelda have taken a pretty steep tumble since then, after the TP hype wore off.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:10 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:14 PM | message detail
Again, can someone give me Kirby and Ganon's 2006 values?

Ganondorf with 58.20%
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:18 PM | message detail
I'm guessing ganon might cut for a bit longer, than sonic will just take off
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:44 PM | message detail
I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match.

What are you talking about? Of course he does.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:51 PM | message detail
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:59 PM | message detail
god damn just die ganon


Given how much I like the ending of Twilight Princess, I find this hilarious. Dude just refuses to die in any game.


Agreed.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 9:23:59 PM | message detail
Ganon is doing well to cut, but I hope Sonic has at least 54% by the end. This isn't a bad job, but Kirby still scares me (even though he probably is legitimately weaker than the 'dorf). Kirby won't have a picture disadvantage, will have the board vote squarely in his side, and will have voters that are more starved for a goofy upset. Sonic sure as hell ain't out of the woods yet.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:24:01 PM | message detail
Again, can someone give me Kirby and Ganon's 2006 values?

Ganondorf beats Kirby 58.21%
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:08 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #009
I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match.

What are you talking about? Of course he does.


What factors does Sora have on his side? That it's a night match? Great we have to count on him building a big enough lead to not get slaughtered in the morning.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:16 PM | message detail
yay a rise
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:53 PM | message detail
Dammit Ganon, just die already, you've lost.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:25:55 PM | message detail
So after seeing this, which upset is more likely at this point, Kirby > Sonic or Missingno > Sephiroth?
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:00 PM | message detail
Sora has the fact that Bowser has only looked good ONE year. He dropped in 2006, then completely fell off the map in 4-ways. 2005 was Bowser's only impressive year for whatever reason. Sora has looked great the last 3 years, and this year had 2 inconclusive matches against 2 unknown opponents. He'll squeak by Bowser, then ride his day vote to victory over the dum pokemon
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:13 PM | message detail
Man, you people are making way too much out of Bowser's average performances and too much out of Sora/Laharl!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/5/2010 9:26:53 PM | message detail
Okay someone other than Black Turtle tell me what Sora has going for him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:08 PM | message detail
Seriously, the main advantage Bowser has is the fact that it's a night match. It might be enough to win, admittedly, but in a day match, I'd be very confident Sora wins that.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:12 PM | message detail
Sora has looked a lot worse than Bowser this year, but that means nothing until they actually have their match.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:44 PM | message detail
Missigno beating Sephiroth is possible, at this point I don't give Kirby even a token upset chance. Sonic has actually redeemed himself and may still be capable of going toe to toe with Mega Man (rematch plx).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:27:51 PM | message detail
A lot? Again, he looked fine against Midna! Especially when you compare what Mewtwo did on Ganon, and how close Bowser and Ganondorf should be!

Whoo!
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irriadin | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:04 PM | message detail
I can't see Sephiroth losing to MissingNo. I mean, I guess it's not impossible but it seems very unlikely that it'll go from barely beating Crono to defeating the third strongest character in the contest.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:12 PM | message detail
ganondorf beating sonic in canada.. no wonder the NA value is low compared to other areas.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:22 PM | message detail
Even with Nintendo doing well and KH being weak, I still think Sora's the favorite of the two. He has the better contest history by far. What has Bowser done contest-wise since 2005?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:28:52 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #027
Even with Nintendo doing well and KH being weak, I still think Sora's the favorite of the two. He has the better contest history by far. What has Bowser done contest-wise since 2005?


Get LFF'd by Luigi and lose twice to a guy he beat with 59% two years before.
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #009
I have so little faith in Sora at this point. He has nothing in his favor for that match.

What are you talking about? Of course he does.


Please tell me what! I'd love to know :)

Being a clear step-and-a-half above Bowser in strength is his only real hope, and I doubt he's that much above Bowser.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:28 PM | message detail
A lot? Again, he looked fine against Midna! Especially when you compare what Mewtwo did on Ganon, and how close Bowser and Ganondorf should be!

Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:33 PM | message detail
And hang on, people. Sonic isn't redeemed just because he can beat Bacondorf 55-45. Certainly not to his 2006 levels anyway.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 9:29:58 PM | message detail
48% on Squall > losing decisively to Ryu
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:30:10 PM | message detail
Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost.

Judging Bowser off of a complete unknown (Dissidia Boost) isn't such a great idea. His performance against Frog would be a more accurate gauge.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:30:41 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #031
And hang on, people. Sonic isn't redeemed just because he can beat Bacondorf 55-45. Certainly not to his 2006 levels anyway.


That's what he was expected to get in 2006!
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creativename | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:12 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #059
Man, you people are making way too much out of Bowser's average performances and too much out of Sora/Laharl!


I don't really care about Sora/Laharl. It's the fact that Sora has always been weaksauce in the first 12 hours that's the problem. He's truly average without his beastly ASV.

That Power Hour+Mario morning vote combo is killer, especially the former.

From: LeonhartFour | #101
but in a day match, I'd be very confident Sora wins that.


Well yeah, of course! That's the entire problem!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:22 PM | message detail
Bacondorf didn't exist in 2k6!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:24 PM | message detail
Do you think Ganondorf is as strong as in 2006? Especially with Bacondorf as his picture?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/5/2010 9:31:59 PM | message detail
sonic is winning canada now
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:02 PM | message detail
But to say Sora has NO advantages is incorrect! He has one big problem, which may be enough to lose, but to say he has no advantages isn't true!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:02 PM | message detail
Frog more accurate? After years of him and his crew falling down the ranks, and how every CT character performed like crap this contest?

I'd rather go off of Kefka through Arthas (who doesn't have a reason to drop other than lol 4 ways) then through anyone from Chrono Trigger.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:10 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #033
His performance against Frog would be a more accurate gauge.


Bowser was obviously getting AAF'd(Awesome Animal Factor) in that match
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:24 PM | message detail
Frog more accurate? After years of him and his crew falling down the ranks, and how every CT character performed like crap this contest?

Makes Bowser beating him look a little less impressive, huh?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:46 PM | message detail
Wow, I didn't realize how close Bowser and Sora seem to be in 2006.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:32:50 PM | message detail
And hang on, people. Sonic isn't redeemed just because he can beat Bacondorf 55-45. Certainly not to his 2006 levels anyway.

He's pretty close to 2006 plus considering that people had characters like Zack over him I say he's done pretty good. Once he 60/40 Kirby I think people will quiet down.
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Draco1214 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:33:27 PM | message detail
Bowser crushing Kefka is much more impressive after the Dissidia boost.

Bowser drew Kefka in Kefka's worst time of the match, by far. If that had been a night match, NO ONE would be hyping Bowser now.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/5/2010 9:33:52 PM | message detail
No, just it's not accurate to say that Bowser looks good or bad because of his Frog match when Kefka is a better gauge to use.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:29 PM | message detail
From KP: Sora 63.36% against Midna in a night match
bowser 63.22% against Frog in a day match
Midna>=Frog


And people trying to say Bowser/Kefka was impressive is like me trying to spin Squall/Terra as an impressive match! It wasn't!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:34 PM | message detail
No, he's not close to 2006 at all. 2010 Bacondorf is very far from 2006 TP Hype Ganondorf. He's not a joke, and he wouldn't lose to Zack, but he's nowhere near his 2006 strength.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2010 9:34:56 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #046
No, just it's not accurate to say that Bowser looks good or bad because of his Frog match when Kefka is a better gauge to use.


We don't even know where Kefka stands. What kind of gauge is that? He's an unknown.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:35:23 PM | message detail
Bowser drew Kefka in Kefka's worst time of the match, by far. If that had been a night match, NO ONE would be hyping Bowser now.

If you equal Kefka and Terra Bowser gets 46% on Squall, match will be pretty close either way.
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