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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 864

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2010 9:11:19 PM | message detail
Incinerate your Companion Cube.



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 3/4/2010 9:12:49 PM | message detail
Stomps on the Companion Cube.

Too bad X got fed to Link this year.

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109/128 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII
NP: Link > Mega Man X | Luigi > Weighted Companion Cube
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/4/2010 9:13:31 PM | message detail
Time for Luigi to get Portal out of this contest so we can stop quoting it for a year.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2010 9:14:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #003
Time for Luigi to get Portal out of this contest so we can stop quoting it for a year.


Have you played it? Portal is so awesome.
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The Real Truth | Posted 3/4/2010 9:20:08 PM | message detail
Portal isn't awesome. It's ground-breaking.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2010 9:55:38 PM | message detail
KP: "The only person who dislikes Portal is someone who has never played Portal."
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/4/2010 9:56:19 PM | message detail
It's got nothing to do with Portal as much as it has to do with Portal fans who love to spam Portal quotes.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2010 11:03:01 PM | message detail
Well in this case, the quotes get spammed because the game is *really* good. If you have a PC, 360 or PS3, I highly recommend it. The Orange Box is dirt cheap these days, and Portal really is as groundbreaking as everyone says it is. Plus it's like 2 hours long, so it's not home huge investment to make.

Also that has to be the most common 500th post in stat topic history. TRE, go calculate this.
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This is good... isn't it?
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/4/2010 11:05:01 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2010 11:05:45 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #009
Tag


XD
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/4/2010 11:14:05 PM | message detail
Wow MMX is making himself look almost on Megaman's level here.

Zack=Red you guys
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zenk123 | Posted 3/4/2010 11:16:50 PM | message detail
so if this were Mega Man, what would he be getting on Link?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/4/2010 11:21:13 PM | message detail
Well, assuming the Mega Man > Mario hype train is up and running at full steam, let's go with 40%.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 12:09:40 AM | message detail
I wonder when we'll see a gigantic Character Battle blowout again. My dream blowout match was always Tanner vs. Batman, but even if that happens, these voters will probably push Tanner to over 10% at least.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2010 12:29:39 AM | message detail
let's go Cube!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/5/2010 3:02:11 AM | message detail
I own Portal because my younger brother wanted it. However, thanks to Steam I cannot install it on my computer, and I have not bothered since. Damn Steam.

I'm sure Ulti knows about Portal being called the 4th best game of the decade on Destructoid's list (since I've hammered it into all of you).
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/5/2010 3:31:19 AM | message detail
Lol I just looked on Wikipedia and apparently New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Bayonetta, Monster Hunter Tri, and Dragon Quest IX got perfect scores from Famitsu. And yet Demon's Souls got 29/40.

Famitsu sucks. Oh wait, didn't these guys give Final Fantasy VII a 35/40 (found that out somewhere, can't do so anymore) and Soulcalibur a perfect score? Yeah...
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 3:57:45 AM | message detail
Maybe Demon's Souls got so low score because of difficulty?Plus really low percentage for Tifa.I get most people after seeing Freeman on Gamespot though he would beat anyone.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 4:39:57 AM | message detail
Also a question for experts.Who is the strongest current generation original hero?Altair?Ezio?Sackboy?Someone else?
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 5:11:14 AM | message detail
Wow, what the hell is going on here? X nearly avoiding a doubling? How did he not collapsse over night like usual?
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 5:15:14 AM | message detail
Seems like Asia saved MMX from getting crushed at night.
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Character Battle VIII - 101/128 - Today's Winners: Link and Luigi
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/5/2010 5:19:29 AM | message detail
To answer that question, I would like somebody to find out what Mr. Kennedy got (percentage-wise) on Vivi in '07.

I would certainly vote for Sackboy over either of the stupid Assassin's Creed characters though, if only because...SACKBOY IS A VERY UNIQUE CHARACTER.

Also just in case none of you knew, I saw a "best heroes" list a while ago (don't remember where I saw it), and said list ranked Gordon Freeman in the top 15, only being beaten by Mario, Link, and Master Chief among video game characters. I have to think that Freeman being an original design for a hero (just an ordinary scientist who gets into huge trouble and doesn't go insane in the process, also accidentally threatening mankind and then working his hardest to save it...actually wait, that's not too original a design, is it?) is why he is so critically acclaimed, and obviously that's not something that a GameFAQs person would care about. Next contest, we should set up Gordon Freeman vs. Magus/Frog, if only to humiliate the latter. Breaking 38% on a character who has been a prime candidate to break the Noble Nine (well, break it even more now) is no joke, even if it was under somewhat favorable conditions (and isn't Freeman a night character?).

In the end, Freeman's run this contest was very comparable to HL2 in the games contest: pull out a close match against a decent midcarder in round 1 and then get bullied around by high midcarders in round 2. Poor guy deserves better IMO, we should feed him to Tidus or Alucard next contest at worst.
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/5/2010 5:38:41 AM | message detail
Man, if Mario has the same horrible asia vote as Link, Mega Man will look MIGHTY impressive
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 5:40:41 AM | message detail
Mario may not be the greatest there either, but Link is on a different planet.
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Character Battle VIII - 101/128 - Today's Winners: Link and Luigi
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 6:01:13 AM | message detail
How is Link so much stronger than Mario?Man...
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2010 6:13:25 AM | message detail
Will Bowser finally get out of the slump that he's been in? Or will he (once again) drop the ball?
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2010 6:34:31 AM | message detail
Match XCVIII: (3) Luigi vs. (7) Weighted Companion Cube

Last Round

Luigi – 59.59%
Amaterasu – 40.41%

Weighted Companion Cube – 53.80%
The Boss – 46.20%

Analysis

If jokes were as threatening as they were in four-ways I believe that this match may have had some hype, but after the cube’s performance last round any hype for this match died with it. Unless the people who supported Missingno decide to rally for WCC I think it is likely that Luigi has a great chance at getting a bigger win this round.

Even though Amaterasu performed better than expected I think that it is because of our underestimation of her than Luigi’s weakness. I have no reason to believe that Luigi is any weaker this year relative to previous years. The main question is how strong The Boss is. The last time we saw her she was roughly at around the fodder line, since then it seems that Metal Gear has gone up in strength though that may have been because of Metal Gear Solid 4 in which she was not in.

I don’t expect The Boss to have risen in strength, but it is possible, especially since we haven’t seen her in a fair contest yet. Either way Luigi should have no problem winning and may even push for 60% should The Boss not be as strong as I think she is.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Luigi > The Boss

charmander6000’s Prediction: Luigi wins, 58.83% - 41.17%

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/5/2010 6:42:02 AM | message detail
To answer that question, I would like somebody to find out what Mr. Kennedy got (percentage-wise) on Vivi in '07.

There were 2 Leon/Vivi matches in 2007.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2886
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2906

In the round 1 match, Leon got 56.52% on Vivi and then got 60.52% on him in round 2. The round 2 match had Tidus, which hurt Vivi with some LFF. Leon's round 1 performance on Vivi is more legit.

And if you wanted to know how I found that out, all I had to do was this:

40.13 / (40.13 + 30.87) = 0.565211268

When converted to a percentage, it ends up being 56.52% once the last 5 numbers are dropped from the above calculation. 40.13 was Leon's percentage while 30.87 was Vivi's percentage in their round 1 match.

Man, if Mario has the same horrible asia vote as Link, Mega Man will look MIGHTY impressive

Mario would win the Asia vote over Link. Mario characters are decent in Asia, Zelda does horrible here, and Metroid is bottom of the barrel bad. Samus would lose to Link in Asia.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 7:21:27 AM | message detail
MMX is holding up really well with the morning. Looks like he'd hold onto 30% even with a 24-hour match......impressive.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 7:40:26 AM | message detail
So... what on EARTH happened in Link/MM 2004? I know Link is supposed to SFF MM, but it's hard to imagine he ends up getting doubled after seeing what X is pulling here.

This also brings up the curious interaction of Mega Man and Mario coming up... do we think the plumber can SFF the Blue Bomber like Link once did? I'm interested to see what the predicted percentages are for that match.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2010 7:41:27 AM | message detail
X = Mega Man, it seems
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 7:44:33 AM | message detail
Anti-votes and pity votes are everywhere in this contest.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/5/2010 7:46:29 AM | message detail
MM = X means a lot of silly things, like Red and Revolver Ocelot beating the stuffing out of Cid Highwind and Zack Fair and Price easily winning over Yuna. Mega Man has clearly shown himself on a higher level this contest.
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LOLContests | Posted 3/5/2010 8:15:16 AM | message detail
I don't see anything weird about this match. MMX is just the recipient of anti-votes like Thrall and Alucard were.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 3/5/2010 8:23:45 AM | message detail
How is Link so much stronger than Mario?Man...

Bad TasteFAQs.. Mario > Link by far!

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2010 8:36:20 AM | message detail
...whoa, so MMX is gonna outdo Mega Man after seeing what Link did to Mega Man six years ago and LoZ obliterating MMX in the series contest? Heck, LoZ:LA beat MMX in BGE2, so I figured this was gonna get ugly. Either MMX isn't being SFF'd (much?) or Link is looking weaker than usual, because I'm not taking Red to beat Zack or Cid...or heck, maybe even Yuna.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 8:36:24 AM | message detail
Well, most of the MMX games were on Sony systems while most of the classic MM games were on Nintendo systems, right? That might have something to do with it.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/5/2010 8:43:17 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #036
...whoa, so MMX is gonna outdo Mega Man after seeing what Link did to Mega Man six years ago and LoZ obliterating MMX in the series contest? Heck, LoZ:LA beat MMX in BGE2, so I figured this was gonna get ugly. Either MMX isn't being SFF'd (much?) or Link is looking weaker than usual, because I'm not taking Red to beat Zack or Cid...or heck, maybe even Yuna.


MMX could be = Mega Man without all that other stuff. The stats for this contest are going to look weird because of the day/night stuff affecting a ton of percentages and even a few wins.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/5/2010 8:46:47 AM | message detail
Just like 4-ways: they just aren't very transitive.

The #1 match I want to see now that will not be in this contest is Gordon Freeman vs. Magus or Frog, just to humiliate the loser. Either GFNW is finally brought back from the dead, or CT embarasses itself even worse.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/5/2010 8:51:32 AM | message detail
I'm serious guys, I think votals for the last three rounds will be a very low because less people will be playing video games because of March Madness. My only question is will that hurt any one character more than any other?
I feel like it will destroy anyone's (i.e. MissingNo.'s) chances at a successful rally.
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/5/2010 8:53:56 AM | message detail
No-one answered my question,who is the strongest current generation character?Altair,Ezio,Sackboy,someone else?Also on RE which is the hierarchy?Leon>Jill>Chris?(by the way where is Claire?)
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paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2010 8:55:30 AM | message detail
Leon > Jill > Wesker >= Chris >> Ada > Nemesis >> Claire

The strongest is Altair.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2010 8:56:54 AM | message detail
I'd say Altair or Lightning for now, and Lightning should be far ahead by their next contest.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2010 8:58:35 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #043
I'd say Altair or Lightning for now, and Lightning should be far ahead by their next contest.


Not if she becomes like Balthier.
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/5/2010 8:58:47 AM | message detail
Leon >> Jill > Chris >= Wesker > Ada >= Claire > Nemesis
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/5/2010 8:59:53 AM | message detail
Ezio would probably be the strongest of the three characters mentioned, though yes I do think Ms. Lightning will be stronger.

Oh god Lightning.
Master Moltar | Posted 3/5/2010 9:00:12 AM | message detail
Luigi 83.33%

5
Weighted Comp. Cube 16.67%

1
TOTAL VOTES 6
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 9:00:19 AM | message detail
Luigi 77.78%

7
Weighted Comp. Cube 22.22%

2
TOTAL VOTES 9

Incinerated.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2010 9:00:26 AM | message detail
Luigi 62%

31
Weighted Comp. Cube 38%

19
TOTAL VOTES 50

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2010 9:01:04 AM | message detail
Good luck, Missingno!
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