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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 862
creativename | Posted 3/3/2010 7:42:17 PM | message detail |
red
is actually right here. Frog seemed fine - Bowser would have to flop to
make him look bad. Magus looked horrible, but no more so than last
contest. And Crono, who the hell knows - he's obviously underrated
relative to Yoshi due to a) no rallying needed against Yoshi and b)
he's way stronger in a 24-match than a 12-hour day match (see the
infamous Crono/Vincent...). --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:42:44 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #149 No, and that wasn't a really good match for Squall either. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:43:10 PM | message detail |
We don't even know where Kefka stands at this point. I would take Terra over him pretty easily. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/3/2010 7:43:46 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #142 Yeah a bit of a stretch, but I don't think its impossible or completely implausible. Apparently, Baltheir would beat Axel now. Baltheir. --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/3/2010 7:43:54 PM | message detail |
I'm
hoping that Kefka's stupid and terrible picture really did hurt him,
and that he would have broken 40% had he gotten a pic like the one in
R1. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:44:09 PM | message detail |
I'm
reserving judgment on Squall until he loses to Auron, but being
obviously stronger than Squall and putting up Crono-esque numbers on
Arthas would fit most people's definition of a good match, I should
think. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:44:29 PM | message detail |
but being obviously stronger than Squall Here's your problem. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:03 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #155 You do realize most people loved that pic? --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
Draco1214 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:03 PM | message detail |
By
the end of this, Midna isn't going to be much stronger than Laharl, so
I have no idea why people are using the Laharl match against Sora. It's
not like Sora's ever been good at blowing out fodder (remember Agent 47
and Tingle?) --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:04 PM | message detail |
Kefka's obviously stronger than Terra. I fail to see the problem. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:32 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #157 --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:35 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #160 Pre-Dissidia, sure. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/3/2010 7:45:39 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #158 Uhh no, I do not. Did you poll most people? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:46:17 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #163 I browsed the pic topic and rating topic. Around 2/3 of the people thought it was great. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:47:19 PM | message detail |
Oh,
that's funny. I seem to recall that right around the Revan match,
everyone was saying how Terra wasn't going to be helped by Dissidia
because she sucks in it while Kefka is awesome. Curious how that works. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:47:44 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #165 Yeah, because we can't be wrong about that stuff. Does Luigi beat Bowser, just out of curiosity? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:48:06 PM | message detail |
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:48:30 PM | message detail |
Probably not. I have a hard time imagining Ammy > Kefka. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:48:30 PM | message detail |
And he does, and she does! But numbers don't lie. Terra is a step above Kefka now. And I hate GameFAQs just a little bit more. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
Draco1214 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:48:58 PM | message detail |
putting up Crono-esque numbers on Arthas If you really wanna go that route, Sora far outdid Ganondorf on someone who's essentially equal to Mewtwo. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:48:58 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #168 But he beat him just last year! And pretty easily at that! And they've been pretty close to equal since 2006. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
ZFS | Posted 3/3/2010 7:49:17 PM | message detail |
I really, really have a hard time seeing Terra above Kefka, regardless of what it implies. --- study the past if you would define the future |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:49:19 PM | message detail |
From: Draco1214 | #170 THE MEWTWO MATCH DOESN'T COUNT LOLOLLOL --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:49:33 PM | message detail |
I should think today's Yoshi adds to the evidence that these are not the same characters from last year. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:50:27 PM | message detail |
The
"TERRA CAN'T BE STRONGER THAN KEFKA!" is akin to the Samus > Cloud
bandwagon because "CHRIS CAN'T BE STRONGER THAN JILL!" Not sure when Bowser all of a sudden became a near elite again. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:50:37 PM | message detail |
If you really wanna go that route, Sora far outdid Ganondorf on someone who's essentially equal to Mewtwo. And Sora far under-did Ganondorf on Neku. (By a lot. 39% for Sora on Ganondorf.) We'll call it a draw. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:50:49 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #174 A match with Missingno, really. C'mon now, even you can't take this match at face value. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
ZFS | Posted 3/3/2010 7:51:29 PM | message detail |
If you want to tell me Terra got that much more of a boost from Dissidia than Kefka, then sure. Bowser and Squall aren't even figuring into why I feel that way. --- study the past if you would define the future |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/3/2010 7:52:08 PM | message detail |
I
can't believe you guys can be so confident about this stuff. I'm the
top freakin' guy and I feel like I've only had an average contest.
Terra/Kefka seems like a question mark in my book, but I'd probably
favor Kefka. Either way, it's not at all conclusive: 20% on Crono 20% on Female Bracket Zelda 30% on Dante 42% on Marth Dissidia Dissidia Nothing really stands out. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:52:14 PM | message detail |
I dunno. We're going to get a lot of wacky stat numbers that don't make sense this year anyway, so who cares. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:52:36 PM | message detail |
You
don't have to take it at face value to realize that Yoshi is fairly
close to Crono, and that that's a big step up from 42% on Squall. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:53:02 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #181 Why doesn't it mean that Crono sucks horribly now? Oh, probably because it makes Frog look bad. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
ZFS | Posted 3/3/2010 7:53:18 PM | message detail |
We'll see what Bowser and Squall do next round. --- study the past if you would define the future |
voltch | Posted 3/3/2010 7:53:39 PM | message detail |
Yoshi hasn't looked this good since his dante squashing days. SMG2 hype boost clearly. --- Shakes Fist! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 7:54:27 PM | message detail |
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:56:11 PM | message detail |
It
could mean Crono sucks terribly now, I'm not sure. However, I'll take
the only available evidence - Yoshi/Jak, admittedly pretty sparse - to
support the conclusion that he doesn't. We'll find out next round. But if Crono sucking means Frog looks bad, and Frog looking bad makes Kefka look bad, then obviously Kefka looking bad makes Terra look bad. Which is an awfully roundabout way of saying intra-game relationships aren't always the best thing to follow. I've already noted that Luigi looks bad but the other Mario characters look golden. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 7:57:13 PM | message detail |
And
I'm just curious what makes Bowser and Yoshi boost up to Crono levels
while Luigi (who has a pretty favorable comparison with 2008 Crono
since they both faced Ammy, that works out to 56.63% for Crono, which
is pretty cool since he got 57.44% on Bowser in 2006) stays put. A lot of the numbers in this contest stink. I just don't know which ones are which. You can make the numbers from this contest say just about anything you want them to, depending on what perspective you take. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:57:40 PM | message detail |
Bowser = Squall seems very strange, but so does Kefka = Terra. I have absolutely no qualms with Bowser > Luigi, though you probably could have guessed that about me. I don't see last year's match as conclusive- it was a 4-way, and it's possible that Bowser is more popular outside the Mario fanbase but Luigi wins inside it (that's what the favorite Mario character polls suggest at any rate). There's also Bowser's Inside Story, plus Bowser was always the strongest Mario side-character, up until 2007 maybe, and there's been nothing conclusive to show that he fell out of that position, ever, outside that Bowser/Luigi match. Leonhart will not like this probably, but I think Old-School LFF is a possibility in Bowser/Ryu/Auron. It's as good an explanation as I can think of for why Bowser and Auron were so far apart in 2007 after being only 3% apart in 2006. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 7:58:37 PM | message detail |
And I apologize, but I must depart. I'll leave you with my Oracle of 56.04% for Bowser and this, which I am pleased with: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1159/bowsero.png --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/3/2010 7:59:37 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #144 When you really think about it, his only good matches ever was the Sephiroth thing in the villain's contest and beating Kirby. --- I am the dragon of blood, a relentless prince of pain Renouncing God on his throne, my blood is forever stained. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 8:00:07 PM | message detail |
However,
I'll take the only available evidence - Yoshi/Jak, admittedly pretty
sparse - to support the conclusion that he doesn't. Which projects Yoshi to beat Crono with 61.63% based on 2007 Jak! I guess Missingno has already boosted up to Sephiroth levels! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:00:34 PM | message detail |
Ryu in 2005. That was a pretty amazing performance. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 8:00:53 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #190 Beating Kirby was a terrible result at the time. Everyone was high on Bowser beating Snake until that match. 40% on Sephiroth, 59% on Ryu, and beating Yoshi in 2003. That's it. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 8:02:29 PM | message detail |
and there's been nothing conclusive to show that he fell out of that position, ever, outside that Bowser/Luigi match. Outside of a direct match with Luigi (which he lost handily, it's not like it was close enough to be a tossup like against Ganon), nothing supports it, huh? But the fact that Bowser lost to Ryu at all speaks a lot about him. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Draco1214 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:02:59 PM | message detail |
And Sora far under-did Ganondorf on Neku. (By a lot. 39% for Sora on Ganondorf.) We'll call it a draw. Extrapolating Sora through fodder is an awful idea, considering how awful Sora is at blowing stuff out. I remember people were calling for Sora's head after he "bombed" against Agent 47 and then went on to 55 Alucard. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 8:04:01 PM | message detail |
I'm
very glad that Sora faced Laharl in a night match, because 1. Sora has
an awful early vote and a 24-hour match would have resulted in Sora
rising to heaven 2. Sora sucks at blowing people out Laharl gonna looks great in the stats, aw yeah --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 8:06:16 PM | message detail |
Actually, I'm curious. Let me do a little math here. Bowser got 65.36% on Wrighto in 2008. Magus got 56.30% on him in 2007. That projects to...60.37% for Bowser. Which would give us Magus > Frog (which I don't think has ever really changed, despite how bad Magus has looked). 52.11% for Bowser against Alucard there. Number manipulation is fun! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:06:20 PM | message detail |
Bowser/Kirby paired with Snake/Sora pretty much killed the hype for that match until the match picture showed up. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 97/120 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Crono |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:06:37 PM | message detail |
As Yoblazer said, we don't have enough info yet to sort through all this yet, but here's what I think is most likely: 2010 Crono/Frog ~= 2008 Crono/Frog ~= 2006 Crono/Frog > 2007 Crono/Frog 2010 New Square < 2008 New Square 2010 KH < 2007-8 KH < 2006 KH 2005-7 Mario Characters > 2010 Mario Characters > 2008 Mario Characters --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 8:06:57 PM | message detail |
I FEEL ASLEEP --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
