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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 862

MetricTrout | Posted 3/3/2010 2:05:24 PM | message detail
Weird how Missingno can win the ASV here yet go even with the ASV to Crono.

Missingno still has a good shot at upsetting Sephiroth. Yoshi was never going to get blown out, but the bandwagon has not started yet. Remember, L-Block did not get a huge strength increase from Round 1 to Round 2 in 2007 either.

The fact that Missingno sucks during the night makes Sephiroth a favorite, but apparently trends do not matter to Missingno.
Denzokuken | Posted 3/3/2010 2:06:14 PM | message detail
but apparently trends do not matter to Missingno.

he will get doubled during the night against seph.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:07:10 PM | message detail
Weird how Missingno can win the ASV here yet go even with the ASV to Crono.

That was on sunday!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 2:07:29 PM | message detail
Weekend ASV strikes again

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MetricTrout | Posted 3/3/2010 2:08:34 PM | message detail
Oh right. My bad.
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 3/3/2010 2:10:26 PM | message detail
And not only a Sunday, but Valentine's Day. A lot of people were probably busy doing other things.

...Wow, Crono's a lot stronger than we thought. I'd figure that on a day when anyone with a real life was probably busy doing, well, real life things, Missingno. probably should have gotten like 70% or something, regardless of the opponent.
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Wrong picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus x2, Phoenix x2, Simon, Kratos Aurion, Crono, Soap MacTavish; Master Chief, Kratos x2, Riku, Dante x2
MetricTrout | Posted 3/3/2010 2:14:09 PM | message detail
Missingno having a tough time breaking 800.

Not too confident in him against Sephiroth anymore, with a night match and all, unless he can build up a huge bandwagon in Round 3. Then again, if he wants to build up a bandwagon, Sephiroth is the perfect opponent to go against.
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 3/3/2010 2:15:19 PM | message detail
Yeah, for some reason, Missingno. just can't seem to pull too far away. I'd be happier if Yoshi was making some decent cuts, but this isn't over yet.
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CB8 score: 99
Wrong picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus x2, Phoenix x2, Simon, Kratos Aurion, Crono, Soap MacTavish; Master Chief, Kratos x2, Riku, Dante x2
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:16:16 PM | message detail
Missingno will start rising again once the West Coast ASV hits in another hour.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 3/3/2010 2:18:27 PM | message detail
...okay, that was nice.
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CB8 score: 99
Wrong picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus x2, Phoenix x2, Simon, Kratos Aurion, Crono, Soap MacTavish; Master Chief, Kratos x2, Riku, Dante x2
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:18:54 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3823&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

This has to be one of the best poll graphs of the contest so far.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:20:39 PM | message detail
Since Yoshi feels like cutting:

Comeback!
Votes needed (5m): 9.35

Based on last half hour:
Votes received: 2.33
Lead change at: Too Late!

Based on last hour:
Votes received: -0.67
Lead change at: Never!

But, yeah, Missingno should take off again at 6.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:21:08 PM | message detail
It took Yoshi 20 minutes to cut another 4 votes off.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 2:34:09 PM | message detail
Little known fact: Mario characters don't have great ASVs. They're all morning vote. Kirby nearly won the ASV outright against Luigi and Bowser. Fox and Sora whipped Yoshi pretty good with it last year (and Yoshi did virtually nothing with it in a match with day vote powerhouses Squall, Drake, and CATS). Bowser couldn't do much of anything with it against Frog (but Kefka is still Kefka, thankfully). Mudkip did very well with the ASV against Mario and Zelda.

Do I need to keep going?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:34:54 PM | message detail
Please do.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:36:17 PM | message detail
So experts is the match over?Also what Missingno is expected to end,51.5%?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 2:40:11 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #065
Please do.


Okay!

Peach did nothing against Gordon Freeman while Ike ripped him to shreds with it in 2007. Zero hit Luigi pretty hard with the day vote in 2006 (but that was Labor Day). Bowser couldn't really do anything against Leon Kennedy.

Yeah, I'm bored now.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 2:43:21 PM | message detail
Missingno will start rising again once the West Coast ASV hits in another hour.

Most likely. We've in the Mountain ASV right now where Arizona is heavily favoring Yoshi here. And I don't think I need to point out Wyoming here. A bunch of other Mountain states are favoring Yoshi, although New Mexico is helping to limit some of the damage from the Mountain ASV.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/3/2010 2:50:45 PM | message detail
I wonder if this is how all Missingno matches will go? Just incredibly close battles that it ends up winning. I'd actually be completely ok with that.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:53:41 PM | message detail
Starcraft was the best. We've had nothing as exciting and fun as that run since then. It's a shame it didn't beat SSBM, so we missed out on FFVII/Starcraft. The outside rallying for that could have been on L-Block 2007 levels I think, and it would have ended on a Saturday night.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:54:19 PM | message detail
There would HAVE to be foul play in order for that to happen. Tifa getting 49% on this thing after Sephiroth got 49.5% would be ludicrous.

Not to mention the xstats on M matches alone would go like this...

Missingno - 50%
Crono - 49.64%
Sephiroth - 49.51%
Snake - 49.39%
Cloud - 49. 22%
Link - 49.05%
Tifa - 49.02%
Yoshi - 49%
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paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 2:58:13 PM | message detail
Also, I just realised if M does win the contest, Jak's going to look good.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/3/2010 2:58:33 PM | message detail
Another hour and we're done with Missingno's best time
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 2:58:39 PM | message detail
Not to mention the xstats on M matches alone would go like this...

Missingno - 50%
Crono - 49.64%
Sephiroth - 49.51%
Snake - 49.39%
Cloud - 49. 22%
Link - 49.05%
Tifa - 49.02%
Yoshi - 49%
Jak - 22%

LOL Jak
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:03:31 PM | message detail
Halftime hourlies!

Time | Yoshi | Missingno
01:00 | 50.99% | 49.01%
02:00 | 49.56% | 50.44%
03:00 | 47.50% | 52.50%
04:00 | 47.25% | 52.75%
05:00 | 49.38% | 50.62%
06:00 | 49.97% | 50.03%

Yoshi was 4 votes away from winning the last hour.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/3/2010 3:04:33 PM | message detail
Pretty funny how Missingno had those two big hours and promptly fell off back to where it was before. Rallying done, apparently.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:06:28 PM | message detail
Actually, looking at the US vote map, it could just be the east giving him more strength than usual. Depends on how the west goes, because most of it is blue ATM.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 3:27:49 PM | message detail
Very big update from Missingno there. Looks like Missingno is in fact doing better with the West Coast ASV.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 3/3/2010 3:32:50 PM | message detail
Okay, yeah, this one's pretty much gone constant. Missingno.'s going to keep on making gains, and the percentage isn't really moving much. So we've got a 51-49? Meh, that's still a pretty close match.
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CB8 score: 99
Wrong picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus x2, Phoenix x2, Simon, Kratos Aurion, Crono, Soap MacTavish; Master Chief, Kratos x2, Riku, Dante x2
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/3/2010 3:45:47 PM | message detail

From: paulg235 | #071
There would HAVE to be foul play in order for that to happen. Tifa getting 49% on this thing after Sephiroth got 49.5% would be ludicrous.

Not to mention the xstats on M matches alone would go like this...

Missingno - 50%
Crono - 49.64%
Sephiroth - 49.51%
Snake - 49.39%
Cloud - 49. 22%
Link - 49.05%
Tifa - 49.02%
Yoshi - 49%


XFD

Please let this happen.
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xp1337 | Posted 3/3/2010 3:48:26 PM | message detail
I have to admit, if there's one good thing I can take away from Missingno possibly winning, it's the prospect of looking at the X-Stats and being able to just smile.

I'm not sure that outweighs all of the negatives of it happening to me, but at least it'll be something to laugh about.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:12:17 PM | message detail
So Ness>Big Daddy a lock right?
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/3/2010 4:15:00 PM | message detail
So Ness>Big Daddy a lock right?

I think Big Daddy is the favorite, isn't he?

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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/3/2010 4:19:35 PM | message detail
I don't think MissingNo. has rally trends here. Maybe I'm reading things wrong, but it looks from vote intakes like these are two even characters while one has a beastly ASV while the other doesn't.
Which, assuming MissingNo=Crono, really puts Yoshi at a near-elite level. I suddenly want to see Yoshi vs. Vincent. Pending the MissingNo. vs Sephiroth match, I have to go with Yoshi based on this.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:20:11 PM | message detail
Missingno had signs of a lot of rallying against Crono, this match looks mostly normal.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 4:20:37 PM | message detail
Do people actually mean stuff like that when they post or am I supposed to humor it for fear of being called elitist
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/3/2010 4:21:57 PM | message detail
Did MissingNo have any real rallying signs before that final hour? And seeing how Crono also got more votes that hour than vote-intake trends should indicate, I don't think it's so weird.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:25:51 PM | message detail
I did an analysis on that match that showed about 2700 extra votes minimum, 1700 over the last 2 hours. Probably some of them were Crono votes, I don't know how many, but since Missingno doing well was highly correlated with overall vote intake being above trend, the vast majority were probably Missingno votes. The upper bound for possible votes rallied was around 6000- in that case more than half would have come from a place other than the last 2 hours.

If I get some time tonight I'll do a similar analysis for this match based on yesterday's trends. I suspect there won't be much that is abnormal, but haven't done any calculations yet.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 4:26:00 PM | message detail
I finally figured out why Missingno went berserk around the start of the ASV. A stickied rallying topic was put up on LL.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:29:56 PM | message detail
Ness is in Smash Brothers right?So he wins.Not by much but he wins.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/3/2010 4:34:43 PM | message detail
But compare that to matches with NN characters in it. And if MissingNo is NN-level, then we have two huge vote draws fighting. Maybe do a comparative analysis after we have another match of two NN-level characters and see if the votals from last match come closer to that. I feel like basing off MMX/Price like you did will end up with a lower votal than off of a Link/Cloud type match.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 4:35:59 PM | message detail
It does seem like there is actually rallying today. Votes per hour in this match:

1:00 | 8852
2:00 | 7526
3:00 | 7488
4:00 | 7831
5:00 | 7607
6:00 | 7234
7:00 | 7081

There was almost no drop off from 2:00 to 3:00. There is a boost in the fourth hour, which is normal for weekday matches. After that, the votes per hour keeps dropping off at a very slow rate of about 150 to 200 per hour.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:41:29 PM | message detail
But compare that to matches with NN characters in it. And if MissingNo is NN-level, then we have two huge vote draws fighting. Maybe do a comparative analysis after we have another match of two NN-level characters and see if the votals from last match come closer to that. I feel like basing off MMX/Price like you did will end up with a lower votal than off of a Link/Cloud type match.

That's not exactly what I did. What I did was to compare each hour to each hour of MMX/Price, to attempt to find a baseline for Crono/Missingno. That turned out to be about 1.09 times the MMX/Price votals, so if each hour had vote intake 1.09 times that of MMX/Price, my analysis would conclude no extra votes at all. But not all the hours were close to the baseline. There were some around 1.13, and the last 2 hours were around 1.29.

Now, it's possible that there was rallying going on the whole time, so in fact my baseline was too high- in that case the number of extra votes would be higher, but this method does give us a good lower estimate on the number of extra votes at least.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/3/2010 4:45:16 PM | message detail
But I'm saying that characters with a very high voting draw might have a lower dropoff rate.
red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:52:28 PM | message detail
But I'm saying that characters with a very high voting draw might have a lower dropoff rate.

You're saying that the votals proportion between, say, Link/Cloud and Guybrush/Tanner will increase as the day goes on? That's an interesting idea; I doubt it would cause a significant change to the results though. Crono/Missingno really didn't distance itself from MMX/Price as the day went on anyway- it went up and down relative to it, but there was no general all-day trend in the votals proportion like that. There's more of a case if characters have different trends, but Crono/Missingno and MMX/Price on a Sunday afternoon probably have pretty close trends. Weekend day matches have been almost trendless so far.

But yeah, now that you brought that up, yesterday's match probably is not a great analog to today's match, because Terra and Squall are both bad at the ASV while Yoshi and Missingno are good. Need to find a weekday match with 2 good ASV characters then.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
Link's quest to save us from the oppression of the jokes- Round 3: Megaman X
paraboxx | Posted 3/3/2010 5:06:14 PM | message detail
I'd be annoyed about missing the show because of work...again...but I'm having tons of fun just reading the comments from the opening hour.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 5:09:27 PM | message detail
The rallying seems to have dropped off during the last hour. Last hour only had 5941 votes, compared to 7081 to the hour before that one.
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paraboxx | Posted 3/3/2010 5:13:18 PM | message detail
Do people actually mean stuff like that when they post or am I supposed to humor it for fear of being called elitist

Maybe you could do what most people do with posts they don't like and ignore it?*

Hmm...maybe a little change would be a good thing...

* yes, I am aware of the irony.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/3/2010 5:31:38 PM | message detail
MissingNo. is still steadily rising in the United States. Did he really have such a terrible early vote here?