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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 861

Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 9:46:46 AM | message detail
Yoshi's winning because he doesn't have a "no" to make missing like Cro.. did!

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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:13 AM | message detail
"LOL Crono" would have sufficed.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:25 AM | message detail
Go Yoshi go!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:26 AM | message detail
MISSINGNO!

HE COME TO TOWN!

TO WIN THE GAMEFAQS CONTEST!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:29 AM | message detail
Just like Ratchet and Crash?

Ratchet had a reason to drop?
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Character Battle VIII - 97/120 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Crono
Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:31 AM | message detail
lol Cro
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:47:48 AM | message detail
I think most agree that Crono would beat Yoshi with 55-45.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/3/2010 9:48:12 AM | message detail
Tag
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 9:48:20 AM | message detail
I mean, jokes being intransitive and having the potential to get weaker from round to round was validated last freaking contest.

Or I suppose Ryu loses to Pikachu 1v1, right? Nah, I'm just talking out of my ass, right.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:48:40 AM | message detail
Cloud doesn't seem to have any great lines like "Link he come to town" or One Winged Angel lyrics. I need to cast Missingno as all 3 members of Clinkeroth before this contest is over.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/3/2010 9:48:43 AM | message detail
There's ****** up, and then there's going from beating a NN'er to (at present) losing to someone supposedly 2 or 3 tiers below said NN'er.

Again, you don't quite understand that MissingNo is not a normal character, and is a joke character. (See also L Block losing to Kratos then beating Link).

MN is a joke and his ralliers have much, much more success rallying against Crono (a character most people never heard of) rather than Yoshi (a character most people love).
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/3/2010 9:48:43 AM | message detail
So, am I the only one here who hasn't even voted yet? Seriously, I have no idea who to choose - I want to see Missingno. succeed, but Yoshi is one of my favorite characters ever!

The only other match that's given me this much trouble was Bowser/Kefka. (I eventually went with Kefka.)

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Next five choices: Crono, Big Daddy, Gordon, Link, Luigi
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 9:49:01 AM | message detail
Ratchet and Crash looked relatively decent, so why not Jak?

I don't see Jak just dropping like a rock. I do think this match really is more Yoshi being strong than Missingno not being transitive or Crono taking a huge fall.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 3/3/2010 9:49:11 AM | message detail
More like Yoshi is winning because Yoshi has actual strength

<_<
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fyrael | Posted 3/3/2010 9:49:40 AM | message detail
Three cheers for missingno's continued destruction of brackets everywhere (except for that guy who has missingno as the winner)
charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:50:07 AM | message detail
If Yoshi can come close to Vincent's percent against Sephiroth we'll talk until then Crono > Yoshi is the favourite.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 9:50:10 AM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #012
So, am I the only one here who hasn't even voted yet? Seriously, I have no idea who to choose - I want to see Missingno. succeed, but Yoshi is one of my favorite characters ever!

The only other match that's given me this much trouble was Bowser/Kefka. (I eventually went with Kefka.)


The only matches so far where I was conflicted on who to vote for was Phoenix/Jecht and Pikachu/Shepard.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/3/2010 9:50:37 AM | message detail
keep it going yoshi
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 9:50:40 AM | message detail
Ratchet has had new games to keep him afloat and has perhaps been made even more relevant with the PS3. Jak... has he had anything notable since Jak 3? In 2004???
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:50:48 AM | message detail
Ratchet and Crash looked relatively decent, so why not Jak?

Jak isn't tied to the hip with those guys.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/3/2010 9:51:04 AM | message detail
Yoshi going back up in NA btw
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 9:51:06 AM | message detail
I just don't know how anyone can look at this match, look at the last match, and go "Crono wins with 55%"

That's utterly ridiculous and based on preconceived notions (which this contest has done a spectacular job of shooting to hell at almost every turn)

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:53:00 AM | message detail
I just don't know how anyone can look at this match, look at the last match, and go "Crono wins with 55%"

That's utterly ridiculous and based on preconceived notions (which this contest has done a spectacular job of shooting to hell at almost every turn)


You're right and that's why Pikachu > Ryu should be a lock, right?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/3/2010 9:53:08 AM | message detail
lol crono

enjoying this result
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/3/2010 9:53:19 AM | message detail
So Yoshi is very slowly pulling away now. Missy's made, what, one cut?

All right, then. Guess this comes down to the ASV. But would the kids really support a glitch from the first generation of Pokemon over YOSHI YOSHI?

Errrrrgh. D:
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 9:53:34 AM | message detail
Yoshi has a decent chance of pulling a Kirby-style bandwagon when he hits Seph (and to compound matters, it's Sephiroth to begin with). I say all that because it's still a monstrous stretch to expect him to put up Crono-style numbers on the OWA.
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:53:56 AM | message detail
MN is a joke and his ralliers have much, much more success rallying against Crono (a character most people never heard of) rather than Yoshi (a character most people love).

You're missing my point, because I basically said in my first post that if you wanted to believe this, then that was fair enough >_>

It's still being highly, highly generous towards Crono to suggest he'd easily beat Yoshi (with 55% for exaple) had he been here instead of Missingno.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:54:04 AM | message detail
Given two different conclusions, one through non-joke characters and one through them, I think most would expect the non-joke reasoned one to have a higher chance of being valid.

Given a Yoshi/Crono match next contest, I'd go with Yoshi. SMG2 + further Crono decline would be enough to swing it for me.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 9:54:05 AM | message detail
It's amazing how some of you people can go LOL 4-WAYS at every turn and then try to use them to prove things in 1 v 1. Pick one and stick with it.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 9:54:09 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #022
I just don't know how anyone can look at this match, look at the last match, and go "Crono wins with 55%"

That's utterly ridiculous and based on preconceived notions (which this contest has done a spectacular job of shooting to hell at almost every turn)


Good point. After watching Cecil get close to Knuckles, Kefka and Terra being incredibly impressive, Ryu H beat Master Chief, WCC struggle to beat The Boss, Falcon beat Riku, Liquid Snake look like complete ass, Tails and Simon impressing for no reason, and so on, is it really that ridiculous that it's come to the point that Yoshi > Crono is actually possible, especially considering how ****ing horrible Magus has been the past couple of years?
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:55:18 AM | message detail
Bowser/Frog, Bowser/Kefka, Squall/Terra, and Squall/Yoshi argue strongly that Yoshi is not on Crono's level.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 9:55:48 AM | message detail
And hell, I'd probably take Pikachu > Ryu. Pikachu has been a beast even in this contest. I think he's gained enough from 2007 to rival the likes of Dante and Ryu now.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/3/2010 9:55:53 AM | message detail
big gain, this might be over
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:56:21 AM | message detail
Also, me and KP are effectively agreeing on something debateable here for like, the first time this contest. That should speak volumes >_>
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/3/2010 9:56:26 AM | message detail
Well, if Ryu, Zero, Bowser, etc can have off year, i don't see how it couldn't apply to Yoshi. Yes, Crono should most probably win in a 24 hours match against Yoshi, but it is hard to say that Yoshi has absolutely no chance against Crono in a day match.
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:56:52 AM | message detail
Yeah this is over unless Missingno starts rallying, which by the votals, seems like isn't happening now. Missingno can't beat near elites without rallying.... I just hope they get their ass in gear and start rallying soon.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 9:56:56 AM | message detail
Looks like Missingno will need to hold on until the ASV starts here, as I only see 2 accounts on Twitter rallying for Missingno right now.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:22 AM | message detail
It takes a lot of good assumptions about Yoshi's strength and bad ones about Crono's for Yoshi > Crono to become an even remotely viable possibility. I won't argue the point any longer though, because 1. most people here will go with Crono when a gun's to their head anyway and 2. X less brackets to worry about, or something.
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hellfire104 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:22 AM | message detail
Bye bye missingno, you worthless piece of trash!!

Sorry rock, you're done.
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My Bracket Says: Night: MM Day: MC
Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:36 AM | message detail
And Yoshi hits 51%.

If Yoshi doesn't impress against Sephiroth... well, I don't know how to end that sentence. Rally or no rally, you've gotta have at least SOME power to you if you can beat Crono round 1 with no bandwagon time.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:54 AM | message detail
Phoenix/Jecht was a pretty tough choice as well, yeah. I think I ended up going with Jecht, though.

But would the kids really support a glitch from the first generation of Pokemon over YOSHI YOSHI?

I personally don't think there's going to be a definite winner of the ASV, honestly. But I said that about Charizard/Kratos, so...

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Next five choices: Crono, Big Daddy, Gordon, Link, Luigi
LOLContests | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:57 AM | message detail
You're right and that's why Pikachu > Ryu should be a lock, right?

It would certainly not be a bad pick.

Why are people bringing up 2008 for L-Block? He was fairly consistent for the most part. Round 2 was his only aberration.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:57:58 AM | message detail
Well, yeah, Crono probably wins 52-48 against Missingno without rallying, and maybe 54-46 if you make it a 24-hour match with no rallying.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/3/2010 9:58:15 AM | message detail
Yoshi > Crono makes a lot of sense when you think about it. At least Yoshi appears in new games at least yearly. What the hell has Crono done lately? Star in a DS port of his old game? How many new fans could that possibly have brought in?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 9:58:37 AM | message detail
61% on Shepard = 50%+ on the Ryu/Dante/Yoshi tier, eh.

I think we're good here!
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:58:39 AM | message detail
I don't get it.How Missingno beat Crono and lost to Yoshi?Yeah rallying okay but where is the rallying now?
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hellfire104 | Posted 3/3/2010 9:58:55 AM | message detail
Hooper, except people in this thread where stuffing and rallying. Makes a big difference.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 9:59:22 AM | message detail
Having started ME recently, I am willing to allow that because Shepard is awesome

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 3/3/2010 9:59:59 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #030
Good point. After watching Cecil get close to Knuckles, Kefka and Terra being incredibly impressive, Ryu H beat Master Chief, WCC struggle to beat The Boss, Falcon beat Riku, Liquid Snake look like complete ass, Tails and Simon impressing for no reason, and so on, is it really that ridiculous that it's come to the point that Yoshi > Crono is actually possible, especially considering how ****ing horrible Magus has been the past couple of years?


There's logical reasoning behind all of those results.

I just don't see any reason for Yoshi to boost from like 30% on Base Link to a much higher level and Crono dropping below that. Again, if Yoshi does really well against Sephiroth, then I'd say it's proof that they are very close in strength and I will concede. At this point, this match proves nothing except it's almost impossible to rally against Yoshi. If you asked random 20 year olds to rally against Crono, they'd do it because they probably have not played Chrono Trigger like most gamers have. But most people have played Mario and Pokemon games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 10:00:18 AM | message detail
And uh, there isn't any rallying in this match so far outside of one update. People are busy, it's a weekday.

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