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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 860

ffmasterjose | Posted 3/2/2010 10:51:15 PM | message detail
Holy **** guys...March 14th is less than 2 weeks away! *girlish squeal*

HG/SS is my most anticipated game of the year

yeah I don't play that many games

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/2/2010 10:51:39 PM | message detail
Which means he's boned when we get to the Euro vote. Usually whoever's gaining now gets crushed when Europe wakes up.

Though you know the percentages for Europe are still unstable right now. Sephiroth could possibly drop a few percentage points in the next few hours.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:52:33 PM | message detail
Pokemon games sound like a pass

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:53:01 PM | message detail
It doesn't really matter though. Looking at virtually every chart I have for a night match, there's a sizable shift when we get to the Euro vote. I'd wager it probably favors Sephiroth.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/2/2010 10:53:49 PM | message detail
I feel like we're gonna lose a lot of voters for the last few rounds once March Madness starts. That could throw everything for a loop.
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:54:24 PM | message detail
Vincent needs to watch out for Asia more than Europe. They drink the white-haired bishie koolaid three times a day over there.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 10:57:36 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #197
HG/SS hype even exists? I barely see anything about it even on this board.
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Are you serious? How have you managed to miss the DOZENS of Pokemon topics? Several of which started by your's truly.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/2/2010 10:59:34 PM | message detail
I kept quiet for a while... but almost two hours have passed, and Sephiroth is still straggling along at 61%? That's just dismal, isn't it?

Especially since Vincent has... that picture. Y'know, the one that makes Elevator Ganon look like Milk Nukem in comparison.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 3/2/2010 11:00:44 PM | message detail
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 11:01:30 PM | message detail
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/2/2010 11:02:40 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #174
Yeah, no joke has ever lost a close match, ever. Crono's A+ SNV got buried by Missingno.

Crono's not an easy character to rally against either (who hates Crono?) and it's virtually impossible to rally against a joke. "Go to Gamefaqs and vote for X against (Joke)" just makes X look pathetic.


Gamefaqs is CT popularity headquarters. Outside of maybe a few actual CT sites, Crono is going to drop in popularity pretty much everywhere. CT characters only get rallies at the very end of matches because the board loves it so much. It's entirely different from something like L-Block where you could gain it votes by linking the match pretty much anywhere. Gamefaqs visitors actually care about other video game characters, while most people don't.

That's why Crono got killed at the end there. All it takes is the board turning against him, and you can find plenty of votes for the opponent. I doubt it'll be as easy against Yoshi, who has a much wider appeal.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 11:02:53 PM | message detail
Elevator Ganon

Not again...
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 11:05:00 PM | message detail
Either way, it's a very bleak bleak picture if you're a Missingno fan. Either tomorrow he beats Yoshi with legitimate strength... meaning that he's got next to no shot against Sephiroth.

Or he beats Yoshi with joke momentum/a rally... meaning that he's got next to no shot against Sephiroth.

Now Solid Snake on the other hand, is a much more difficult beast to put to bed. I would say that the Snake dorks have a lot more good to take out of this match than the glitch fanboys.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 11:10:55 PM | message detail
TRE *must* be on The Show at some point. Every big-time stats topic regular needs to be on that podcast at least once.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 11:12:24 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #197
HG/SS hype even exists? I barely see anything about it even on this board.

But we'll see what happens. I think Charizard probably wins easily, but I'm just intrigued to see what L-Block does.


No offense meant here, but you missed the 1383 Pokemon topics with how much time you spend here? I find this impossible to believe unless "Search for the stats topic" is your home page for something.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/2/2010 11:15:01 PM | message detail
Not again...

Hey, somebody has to keep it alive!

In all seriousness, though, that Vincent picture... is a polarizing one, to say the least. Some love it, but I personally agree with the guy who thinks he looks like a Snifit.

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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/2/2010 11:24:12 PM | message detail
I don't think HG/SS hype is that big on Gamefaqs outside of this board. This is the Pokemon social board, remember. If there is any major release in the next couple weeks, it is FFXIII. It'll dwarf the hype for HG/SS.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3703

Hell, it doesn't even seem that much more hyped than God of War 3, and we saw how much that helped Kratos. And it struggled to beat Mass Effect 2
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/2/2010 11:25:20 PM | message detail
but people love Mass Effect 2. Shepard seems to have benefitted from it.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/2/2010 11:26:04 PM | message detail
Gotta love how SFF matches only mean something when they make it look bad for FF7.
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/2/2010 11:26:23 PM | message detail
Shepard benefited from it because he was fodder who was doubled by Magus before Mass Effect 2. Someone like Charizard already has legit strength from being one of the faces of Pokemon for 15 years. I doubt a remake coming out is going to help him that much.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 11:43:28 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #216
Not again...

Hey, somebody has to keep it alive!

In all seriousness, though, that Vincent picture... is a polarizing one, to say the least. Some love it, but I personally agree with the guy who thinks he looks like a Snifit.


That picture looked fine before the BaconFilter, but whatever. I had a load of fun making it, which is all I care about.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/2/2010 11:49:47 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #197
HG/SS hype even exists? I barely see anything about it even on this board.

Topics with "pokemon" in the title count: 31
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/2/2010 11:56:19 PM | message detail
Another thing about Sephiroth's Europe/Asia percentages here, is that it implies Sephiroth does better with those who care about FFVII a lot and Vincent better with those who don't care about FFVII so much. That would be another reason for Vincent to underperform against Sephiroth with Link and Mario in a poll, to go along with those already stated.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/3/2010 12:27:13 AM | message detail
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/3/2010 2:28:42 AM | message detail
I voted for Sephiroth.

But as I said, I would've voted for Vincent/Tifa over Sonic/Crono/both MMs by this point.
Biolizard28 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:15:02 AM | message detail
Sephiroth is so screwed
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/3/2010 4:29:43 AM | message detail
Doesn't this project Vincent to get like 53% on Sonic? Surely Vincent isn't THAT far ahead of the hedgehog...and if Vincent gets 53% on Sonic now while Ganondorf still gets 47% on Vincent...OH SNAP.

Using this match and Ganondorf/Vincent 2006, this seems to project Ganondorf to score about 35% on Sephiroth, and that might not be far from what he gets on Sephy in the 2005 x-stats. Uh oh...

Discuss please.
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/3/2010 4:32:41 AM | message detail
lol faileroth
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voltch | Posted 3/3/2010 4:35:06 AM | message detail
hehe, I just realised Team Lucky Star has clawed its way back from like 10 points down to 2 points off team SWORDMANZ in the oracle, I'm just 120 odd points behind Ngirl, and even further off from war, but w/e you guys are going down!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 4:35:17 AM | message detail
Ganon gets 34%~ on Seph in the 2k5 x-stats, but he's almost certainly underrated there. That's the good news for him. The bad news is that he's never come close to looking that good in subsequent years, and that's only been compounded by Bacondorf.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/3/2010 4:41:44 AM | message detail
And this hasn't budged much, like, at ALL since the first hour. Vincent's put on a clinic tonight in how to limit Seph's trademark rise to heaven. Good thing the 'overreacters' don't have to worry about their feet being stuck in their mouths with comments like

And Sephiroth is going to be closer to 70% than 60% by the end of this match anyways.

and

Seph already 3% above where he was at the freeze.

I hope some of you making comments right now take a long, hard look at them in 11 hours...!

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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/3/2010 4:46:06 AM | message detail
Only link/cloud/seph could have vincent in the 37% range. Seph is doing better than his projected % too. Considering he's not an sff machine, noice seph. Should be a lock over missingno. Unless that bandwagon picks up(or yoshi wins).
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/3/2010 4:46:32 AM | message detail
Hehe. I guess it's more difficult to ramp upward with the night vote when you're opponent is from the same game.

I think this says more about Vincent's strength than Sephiroth's lack thereof, though. I have no idea why Vincent is so strong, but he is!

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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/3/2010 6:04:20 AM | message detail
Only three more hours!

I shouldn't be worried about MissingNo, I really shouldn't. But Ulti seems so completely certain of Yoshi being able to win here that it's enough to really rattle me. I feel uncomfortable going against the shirt.

I'm really hoping he'll win, though, because glitchy boy's our only hope of avoiding another Link championship (poor Cloud, forever trapped in limbo at number 2), and we'd also wind up with at least one lame all-FF7 match again.
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 3/3/2010 6:06:34 AM | message detail
I didn't think Yoshi had a chance either but the top guys in the Oracle have taken him to win. Coupled with stats topic hype I'm now uncertain over the winner.
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irriadin | Posted 3/3/2010 6:10:38 AM | message detail
I agree with a lot of you that Yoshi poses a serious threat to MissingNo. Not in his actual strength, per se, but in his mass appeal. The only character of similar quality that would be even more dangerous to MissingNo is Pikachu, most likely.
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Denzokuken | Posted 3/3/2010 6:14:24 AM | message detail
If Missingno beats Yoshi and Seph then the only guy who has a chance of beating him is Link. I'll actually be rooting for Link for once...man.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/3/2010 6:22:49 AM | message detail
Match XCIV: (5) Yoshi vs. (13) Missingno

Last Round

Yoshi – 76.62%
Jak – 23.38%

Crono – 49.71%
Missingno – 50.29%

Analysis

I think the main question on everyone’s mind at the end of the first round was how real is Missingno? Is it a legit character or will it pull another L-Block. As a person who had Crono winning this match, which is the massive consensus of the board Missingno shouldn’t have a problem winning this match, if it can defeat Crono then what’s stopping it from defeating the weaker Yoshi? Some people disagree and think Yoshi has a chance despite being weaker than Crono, is their hatred of joke characters blinding them or do they have a legitimate argument?

The main argument that Yoshi can pull it off is that he is not hated. Well neither is Crono in fact Crono has one of the most hardcore fanbases. I think what people meant is that Yoshi is also universally known as well as being universally liked which is something that Crono doesn’t have since a large portion of the entire internet probably still hasn’t played Chrono Trigger. It’s hard to rally for a character when the opponent has a lot of support, think Super Mario Bros/Warcraft.

Still Crono would have gotten somewhere in the high 50s against Yoshi so to reverse that would be a sight to see. Sure Pikachu was able to do the same against L-Block in the previous contest, but in that contest people were fed up against L-Block and an anti-rally was formed to give Pikachu impressive numbers against Crono. While some of the board is not happy with Missingno’s win I don’t see that quite translating to the casual voter. If Missingno manages to win the entire contest I can see an anti-rally forming in the next contest, but here I don’t see it happening.

While some people are hopeful to see a Yoshi win I just don’t see that result happening. He may perform better than what he would have gotten against Crono because Missingno supporters may not have to rally as much, but if the match becomes close I see Missingno pulling through even though Yoshi is universally loved.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Crono > Yoshi

charmander6000’s Prediction: Missingno wins, 54.93% - 45.07%

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/3/2010 7:01:56 AM | message detail
Okay, I'm going to ask something. The way I understand, a character is fodder when:

-Clinkeroth breaks 85%
-A mid-tier noble niner breaks 80%
-A low-tier noble niner/upper tier midcarder breaks 75%
-A mid midcarder breaks 70%
-A low midcarder breaks 65%

Is this generally correct?
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/3/2010 8:08:48 AM | message detail
Only way Yoshi will beat Missingno is if he would hit higher than 55% on Crono. If anything, I think Crono would break 55% on Yoshi.

Why the hell would Missingno go from being strong enough to beating Crono R1 to losing to a weaker opponent in R2? You think Yoshi will SFF a Pokemon? Even if Yoshi and Crono are close, would you really bet against Missingno in a close match?

The only thing Yoshi has going for him is tripling Jak in a contest where Sony platformer stars look decent, as well as the Mario crew looking as strong as ever. If Yoshi actually does beat Missingno, it'll be because of Yoshi being incredibly stronger than usual. It could happen, but I'm not buying it.

I know this is a ridiculous thing to ask, but... How well will Missingno have to do on Yoshi for you to worry about Sephiroth? Assuming you aren't already worried and assuming that even a 80/20 beatdown wouldn't have you fearing for Seph.
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 3/3/2010 8:10:31 AM | message detail
Isn't Fodder Line ~15% on Link?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/3/2010 8:20:28 AM | message detail
We don't even have a clear definition for the fodder line anymore. I heard some people talking about using Kefka and then WHOOPS

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paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:21:39 AM | message detail
I think Laharl's the new fodderline, now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/3/2010 8:23:07 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: assuming Missingno wins (and it should), everybody on the leaderboard misses the match again.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/3/2010 8:23:46 AM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/3/2010 8:24:43 AM | message detail
Let's just use a basic number on the champ, every time we pick a character they seem to change the contest afterward. Remember VFL?

I'm game for 17.5% on the champion each contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/3/2010 8:25:42 AM | message detail
Sucks I have to miss the beginning of the next match, but oh well.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/3/2010 8:36:27 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3822&region=USXND

LOL, Vincent is actually going to win a state against Sephiroth.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/3/2010 8:51:18 AM | message detail
I don't expect Missingno to impress today, but that's only because it won't need to rally against Yoshi. On top of stressing again that Missingno beat Crono and few people outside of Albion were considering Yoshi > Crono, we've also seen Missingno against other Nintendo characters without a picture and still wrecked the poll: the vote-in. Missingno nearly doubled Toad despite Jigglypuff and Mudkip, who are both Pokemon who are respectively well-known as a fighter in the SSB-series and a joke-fad as well). Toad's not a joke or unknown in his series, either, don't let 2007 fool you; Bowser clearly SFF'd him there...and despite being smashed by Bowser, Mewtwo (without any other Pokemon) could only get ~71% on him. Which looks better: Missingno-with-Mudkip-and-Jigglypuff getting ~66% on Toad right after NSMBW comes out, or Mewtwo getting ~71% on Toad-with-Bowser in 2007?

Missingno's got a pretty clear spot in the fanbase based on the vote-in, and it didn't even rally there. Only MMX had a higher percentage in the vote-in, and that's probably because of LFF and weaker opponents...not to mention Missingno beat second-placed The Boss worse than MMX beat second-placed HK-47. I think if you switch Missingno and MMX in the vote-in polls, we may have seen this coming better.

Give Missingno the ridiculous picture and the opportunity to rally (thinking Yoshi is rally-proof is pretty poor logic, for the record) ON TOP OF ALREADY BEATING CRONO, and Missingno is in prime position to move on and face Sephiroth next round.
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/3/2010 8:51:29 AM | message detail
Midgar Division: Round 2 - Match 94 – (5) Yoshi vs. (13) Missingno

Moltar’s Analysis

Yoshi
Round 1 - 76.62% vs. Jak

Ratchet laughs at this.

Missingno
Round 1 - 50.29% vs. Crono

Hey Crono lost to a glitch let’s point and laugh.

In some ways, Yoshi is a tougher opponent for Missingno even though he’s weaker than Crono. He’s Nintendo, he’s Mario, and he’s a fan-favorite. It’ll be harder to rally against Yoshi than Crono as well.

Don’t think that’s going to matter when it comes down to it though. The beast is unleashed, and Yoshi lacks the power to stop it.

I doubt it’ll win by much though. Yoshi should keep it close, but it’s not going to be the back-and-forth fest that it was last round. The rallying last round made Missingno seem far stronger than it should have been, and I doubt it gets that level of intense rallying against Yoshi.

Moltar’s Bracket: Crono > Yoshi (whoops)

Moltar’s Prediction: Yoshi: 49% - Missingno: 51%



Lopen’s Analysis


Logic says that MissingNo should walk over Yoshi because Corno is stronger than Yoshi.

I don't agree. Three reasons.

1. Yoshi's got the widesweeping appeal. Better at blowing things out-- or taking potential joke votes. See Pika vs L.
2. CT has been crap this contest so Yoshi vs Crono probably would probably end up close in a day match.
3. "Legit" MissingNo fans are more likely to overlap with Yoshi fans than Crono fans.

That being said before you guys pull the bias card, I'm actually voting MissingNo in this match. Granted that's more cause I don't like Yoshi but hey!

Lopen's prediction:
Yoshi with 51.39%



Transience’s Analysis

I think this is Missingno's hardest match until he gets to Snake. Harder than Crono, harder than Sephiroth.

Yoshi is beloved. It is difficult to find people that don't know Yoshi, or people that flat out dislike him. Crono is a bit niche and a lot of people don't know who he is; Sephiroth has anti-fans galore. But Yoshi? He's one of the strongest anti-joke characters we have; he's iconic, well known, liked, all that good stuff. Yoshi would lose handily to Crono or Seph, but against a weird joke he's got a great chance to do well.

Now, if Missingno's grown a bandwagon since his last match then Yoshi will be in trouble, but as it is I think he should be looked at as the favourite here. Crono's not iconic. Crono's not universal. Yoshi is. If Missingno wins this then I'm picking him over Sephiroth without blinking. Snake and Samus would be the only things stopping it from making the finals.

transience's prediction: Yoshi with 54.61%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Quickie w/ Ng: I've always thought you're a fool if you expect a joke character's strength to be consistent and that a win over Yoshi was never a sure thing as a result. Still like Mizno here, but I'm thinking he'll have to work for it. (Also it's so hard to root against someone with the potential to take out Seph.)

Ngamer Says: Missingno > Yoshi, 51.47%



Kleenex’s Analysis

MissingNO is right. Get this thing outta my bracket. Unfortunately, that's probably gonna have to wait until next round. Some people are using Pikachu > L-Block last year as reasoning for why Yoshi might oust the glitch this afternoon. It a possibility, so I'm not completely ruling it out. Yoshi's probably a bit harder to rally against that Crono is because SQUARE CHARACTERS SUCK AND ALWAYS WIN THESE CONTESTS. The problem is, there's enough of a strength disparity between Yoshi and Crono (or is there?!), that I don't think it's enough to make up the difference.