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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:00:14 PM | message detail
2) Joke fatigue. By then the joke could get stale (and probably does I think).

It didn't stop L-Block until the next year, but I would hope so.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:10 PM | message detail
Right now, FFVII's board vote is even worse than it was in 2007 or 2005

FFVII's board vote has always been horrible. It hasn't looked any worse now than in any other year. Its day vote prowess disappearing is another story and has nothing to do with its board vote.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:14 PM | message detail
Whatever happens with Missingno, I really doubt it would have what it takes to beat Link 1v1 for 24 hours.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:27 PM | message detail
Missingno does not beat Link. No one is ever going to beat Link 1 v 1 for at least a decade.

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KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:55 PM | message detail
If Missingno makes the finals, the only character I want to be there with the stupid glitch to show it what's what is L-Block.

Shaped like a boot to kick the fake boot's ass.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/2/2010 10:02:31 PM | message detail
If Missingno can beat Cloud, then he can beat some fairy who can't even quadruple Thrall
red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:02:36 PM | message detail
I would expect Crono/Sephiroth to follow Crono/Vincent 2007 trends roughly. Crono and Vincent are no longer quite so imbalanced trendwise but Sephiroth's early vote is worse than Vincent's which should make up for that. Crono lost over 10% from the freeze to the 12-hour mark, and I'd expect Missingno to lose more (although he'll have a better day vote and Europe vote than Crono, so perhaps not). Crono being at 60% on Vincent at the freeze probably implies he'd be leading Sephiroth at the freeze.

Anyway, assuming Missingno/Sephiroth follows Crono/Vincent 2007 trends, Missingno needs about 56.5% at the end of the first hour to win. If there's 12,000 votes at that time, Missingno would need 1500+ votes within the first hour. His lead would need to hit 2700 or so by 4 AM for him to withstand the storm once it comes.

That's assuming no rallying. If Missingno can rally or stuff several thousand votes, those quotas will be a lot lower.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 10:03:14 PM | message detail
Missingno does not beat Link. No one is ever going to beat Link 1 v 1 for at least a decade.


FF7 Remake cloud would. Especially if it goes to a nintendo console as well.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/2/2010 10:03:21 PM | message detail
I'm hoping Joke Fatigue sets in very early as well (like, 11 hours from now sorta early). I just get the feeling that 4ways have gotten voters "smarter" and more impatient with things. L-Block took over a year to wear off, but I think these days, it's plausible for a joke to lose its humor (and strength) in the middle of a contest. I also think that's more likely to happen with Missingno against Yoshi than against Sephiroth. It's hard to imagine Missingno getting to the big bad FFVII villain and getting 39%.
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creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 10:04:15 PM | message detail
Wait - wouldn't the Cloud/Missingo semifinal be a 24 match as well?

If Missingo beats Sephiroth, Cloud extracting revenge is a very strong possibility, if that's a 24 hour match.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/2/2010 10:04:18 PM | message detail
I am one of those people that believe that Sephiroth could lose the board vote to Mario. Just look at FFVII/OoT from the last Games Contest. Prior to the final, FFVII always lost the board vote. We were expecting that when FFVII was put up against the one game that could defeat it in a match, that FFVII would pull through and win the board vote over OoT. But no, FFVII still got utterly decimated by OoT with the board vote. If that happens to FFVII, it will most likely happen to Sephiroth when he's against Mario.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:04:57 PM | message detail
I doubt a FFVII remake would even be enough to make a difference. If we get Link vs. Cloud this year that will one lopsided match.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:05:38 PM | message detail
Chart from yesterday's match:

Time | Terra | Squall | Votes
0:05 | 38.67% | 61.33% | 843
1:00 | 37.36% | 62.64% | 8369
2:00 | 37.89% | 62.12% | 7023
3:00 | 36.22% | 63.78% | 6596
4:00 | 34.71% | 65.29% | 6888
5:00 | 33.76% | 66.24% | 6748
6:00 | 34.89% | 65.11% | 6408
7:00 | 35.38% | 64.62% | 6029
8:00 | 34.11% | 65.89% | 5464
9:00 | 34.60% | 65.40% | 4899
10:00 | 33.60% | 66.40% | 4541
11:00 | 35.86% | 64.14% | 4135
12:00 | 36.25% | 63.75% | 3531

Bless you, FFVI ASV.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:05 PM | message detail
Cloud is lucky this contest isn't taking place in the summer. If Zelda Wii gets unveiled at E3 and looks good, it would have meant bad, bad things.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:19 PM | message detail
If it were a remake only on a sony console, then perhaps not. Why it'd need to be multiplatform imo. Seeing as how ff13 is, I wouldn't see why not.
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KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:21 PM | message detail
If we get Link vs. Cloud this year that will one lopsided match.

Lopsided in Cloud's favor!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:42 PM | message detail
The idea of Missingno having enough juice to beat Cloud 1v1 for 24 hours but having absolutely zero shot at Link is a product of bias talking. Link isn't 60-40ing the second strongest character in the bracket yet.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:45 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #114
Cloud is lucky this contest isn't taking place in the summer. If Zelda Wii gets unveiled at E3 and looks good, it would have meant bad, bad things.


You know what would suck though? No Zelda Wii at E3...

But FFVII Remake is unveiled!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:06:52 PM | message detail
I am one of those people that believe that Sephiroth could lose the board vote to Mario. Just look at FFVII/OoT from the last Games Contest. Prior to the final, FFVII always lost the board vote. We were expecting that when FFVII was put up against the one game that could defeat it in a match, that FFVII would pull through and win the board vote over OoT. But no, FFVII still got utterly decimated by OoT with the board vote. If that happens to FFVII, it will most likely happen to Sephiroth when he's against Mario.

In retrospect, that was wishful thinking. Everyone knew the FFVII/OOT 1v1 poll was the true final, and voters who had voted OOT to topple FFVII weren't about to switch and give FFVII a 2nd championship just like that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:07:21 PM | message detail
Seriously, you people need to remember that Link does not have voters. He has androids. Androids who will tirelessly vote him over everything else. Look at the polls with L-Block and Snake in the finals. Cloud suffers due to more creative people voting elsewhere. Link stays the same because his fanbase lack the cognitive thought necessary to vote for someone other than him.

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Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 10:07:25 PM | message detail
Does anyone have great expectations for the new zelda btw? After tp, I sure don't.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:07:38 PM | message detail
Post-Zelda Wii unveiling would be special. That'd probably hit some 60% zone.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 10:07:43 PM | message detail
Seph went up 3.41% from the freeze to now.

Missingno you better build a DAMN fine lead.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:14 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #121
Does anyone have great expectations for the new zelda btw? After tp, I sure don't.


TP was the most fun I've ever had with a Zelda game! If the new Zelda is like that, I'll enjoy it!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:22 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #120
Seriously, you people need to remember that Link does not have voters. He has androids. Androids who will tirelessly vote him over everything else. Look at the polls with L-Block and Snake in the finals. Cloud suffers due to more creative people voting elsewhere. Link stays the same because his fanbase lack the cognitive thought necessary to vote for someone other than him.


This is a great post.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:27 PM | message detail
What Leon said!

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creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:31 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #507
That's assuming no rallying. If Missingno can rally or stuff several thousand votes, those quotas will be a lot lower.


Missingo stuffing/rallying against Sephiroth is guaranteed. The glitch will cheat. It's just a question of if the bangwagoning can boost it to the point where such stuffing can make the difference, because the bandwagoning boost is the more important thing.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #509
I'm hoping Joke Fatigue sets in very early as well (like, 11 hours from now sorta early). I just get the feeling that 4ways have gotten voters "smarter" and more impatient with things. L-Block took over a year to wear off, but I think these days, it's plausible for a joke to lose its humor (and strength) in the middle of a contest. I also think that's more likely to happen with Missingno against Yoshi than against Sephiroth. It's hard to imagine Missingno getting to the big bad FFVII villain and getting 39%.


Oh yes, for sure. It's not just Missingno that would be getting stale, but we've already seen jokes win. It wouldn't be something new.

But as you say, there's no chance it sets in against Sephiroth.

Against Yoshi, I could see it being somewhat close because the base won't bother to rally against a weaker character.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:54 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #270
Seriously, you people need to remember that Link does not have voters. He has androids. Androids who will tirelessly vote him over everything else. Look at the polls with L-Block and Snake in the finals. Cloud suffers due to more creative people voting elsewhere. Link stays the same because his fanbase lack the cognitive thought necessary to vote for someone other than him.


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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:09:53 PM | message detail
I love Link, but it's true and we all know it. Nintendo fans are crazy.

(also, I still think Missingno beats Yoshi easily and loses to Sephiroth easily, especially after what WCC and Block did)

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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/2/2010 10:09:59 PM | message detail
Seriously, you people need to remember that Link does not have voters. He has androids. Androids who will tirelessly vote him over everything else. Look at the polls with L-Block and Snake in the finals. Cloud suffers due to more creative people voting elsewhere. Link stays the same because his fanbase lack the cognitive thought necessary to vote for someone other than him.


Interesting. So you're insinuating that Link voters are the most dull, unintelligent and pathetic group of people to vote in this contest?
red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:02 PM | message detail
Hey now, we Link fans do have cognitive thoughts! Just because we're indoctrinated from a young age into Link fandom, and we receive daily voting instructions from Nintendo Contest Headquarters does not mean we're incapable of independent thoughts! Like choosing to vote for Link rather than doing it because we're ordered to!

Seriously though, there is a difference between Link and Sephiroth, and Missingno can beat Sephiroth and lose to Link.
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redrocket | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:11 PM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #069
Yoshi > Missingno

Why are you continuously trying to bring this up? It's a bigger longshot than Missingno>Sephiroth at this point.


Ulti isn't going to expand any his vague justifications for this prediction. That way if it happens he can claim he was a genius for knowing it all along, and if Yoshi gets stomped he can claim it was just a gut feeling that he wasn't trying to justify logically.

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:33 PM | message detail
Interesting that Sephiroth is doing better in the areas where FFVII is stronger, Europe/Asia. NA is probably voting for Vincent because Sephiroth is the higher profile FFVII character, anti-voting him. Or it could just be character design, with guns being more popular over here.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:35 PM | message detail
Do we have any proof yet that MissingNo. is a joke? I'm still not convinced he doesn't have legitimate strength. He may be a humorous option, but I still feel the vast majority of his strength comes from those who loved him being there to not have to grind through hours of training Pokemon. I guess we'll find out in about 11 hours. If he can blow out Yoshi, he's legit (which gives him less of a chance at Sephy because his strength is equal to Crono's and quite below Sephiroth's). If it's also a close match, then I guess the joke is in and we have no idea what will happen later on.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:41 PM | message detail

Interesting. So you're insinuating that Link voters are the most dull, unintelligent and pathetic group of people to vote in this contest?


I think you might be on to something, Watson!
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creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:47 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #552
I doubt a FFVII remake would even be enough to make a difference. If we get Link vs. Cloud this year that will one lopsided match.


That's just silly. We've already seen over and over again what hype does. If FF7 gets a remake, the hype alone will push Cloud past Link without any problems, a year or maybe even two before the game comes out.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:12:07 PM | message detail
I was about to say that Sephiroth voters are worse, but Sephiroth actually has some of the most variable results of any character we've got. You never know what you're gonna get out of him!

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 10:12:17 PM | message detail
Unfortunately, Square is filled with incompetent mouth-breathing nitwits and we're never getting an FFVII remake.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:12:48 PM | message detail
I doubt it, because Link isn't going to be without a brand new, heavily hyped game himself. A FFVII remake isn't going to happen any time in the near future, an announcement or otherwise, but I wouldn't be one taking Cloud to win any matches on it. An announcement of the game now certainly isn't going to have the same punch it would have a couple of years ago, though it would obviously get lots of hype.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 10:13:54 PM | message detail
An FF7 remake is never going to happen. They already confirmed that remaking the scope and settings with FF7 using modern-day graphics would be a ridiculous undertaking that they have little desire to try.

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KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 10:14:11 PM | message detail
Not gonna need Cloud to take down Link next year anyway.

Our next contest winner is a mere 6 days away.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 10:15:01 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't say never, but anyone expecting to hear about or see one in the next five years will be disappointed.

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Hochimihnister | Posted 3/2/2010 10:15:05 PM | message detail
The incoming FFXIII boost will be more than enough for Cloud to beat Link. Plus, Cloud has looked better for 2 Rounds now.
MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/2/2010 10:17:10 PM | message detail
Plus, Cloud has looked better for 2 Rounds now.

People said the same exact thing about FFVII last contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 10:17:35 PM | message detail

From: redrocket | #132
From: UltimaterializerX | #069
Yoshi > Missingno

Why are you continuously trying to bring this up? It's a bigger longshot than Missingno>Sephiroth at this point.


Ulti isn't going to expand any his vague justifications for this prediction. That way if it happens he can claim he was a genius for knowing it all along, and if Yoshi gets stomped he can claim it was just a gut feeling that he wasn't trying to justify logically


I've said multiple times why I feel that way. Yoshi is the fan favorite of the Mario series, rallying against him would be extremely hard. Missingno has to be naturally stronger than Yoshi by a lot to win, because rallying against YOSHI is ridiculous.

You know what one of the biggest rally hot spots for Missingno was against Crono? Luelinks. If people try rallying against Yoshi on LL, it would end up doing more harm than good.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/2/2010 10:17:54 PM | message detail
Do we have any proof yet that MissingNo. is a joke? I'm still not convinced he doesn't have legitimate strength.

I'm a Missingno. fan and I do think there exists a fair number of people who like Missingno.. However, being as strong as Crono seems too high to me if Missingno. isn't getting joke votes.
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creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 10:18:04 PM | message detail

From: redrocket | #652
From: UltimaterializerX | #069
Yoshi > Missingno

Why are you continuously trying to bring this up? It's a bigger longshot than Missingno>Sephiroth at this point.


Ulti isn't going to expand any his vague justifications for this prediction. That way if it happens he can claim he was a genius for knowing it all along, and if Yoshi gets stomped he can claim it was just a gut feeling that he wasn't trying to justify logically.


Haha, ownage :) So true though ^_^

From: ZFS | #659
I doubt it, because Link isn't going to be without a brand new, heavily hyped game himself.


The hype on this site for any Zelda game wouldn't even be 1/3rd the hype for a FF7 remake, and you know that.

Yes, an announcement alone wouldn't be enough. But like I said, a year or two before the game comes out, and Link would probably be toast, and rather easily. Remember that Link gets his strength from a bazillion games (his own, and the Smash series), while Cloud gets his from two (FF7+KH). Two!! The boost a FF7 remake would give him would be enormous.

Not to mention it would totally revitalize the FF7 day vote as well, especially with it being multiplatform (which would likely be a given).

But of course, the remake ain't ever happening, luckily for LInk.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 10:18:39 PM | message detail
Also Square is too stupid to remake FF7. They've long since proven this. I've lost all hope for it.
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KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 10:19:21 PM | message detail
Remake denied because of too many towns.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:20:03 PM | message detail
Remake denied because FFVII is a much better game than Square is capable of making these days.
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