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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 860
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 9:16:38 PM | message detail |
Vincent Awesome Pic Factor at work! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone has one and no one thinks theirs stink." -Lunar 2 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:29:08 PM | message detail |
Vincent's in that match pic? Where? --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:05 PM | message detail |
...hahahahahahaha Forget a rally, Missingno could beat this hunk of crap on strength alone ...How much stronger than Vincent and Crono do you think Sephiroth is? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:11 PM | message detail |
Seriously,
how is Seph not overkilling this match. We've seen this before and
Vincent got fodderized, you can barely see him in the pic, they're from
the same game with the exact same kind of appeal. This is pathetic. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:25 PM | message detail |
Oh god I almost forgot Vinnie's doing this with that pic --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:27 PM | message detail |
I liked Vincent's picture. Estuans Interius Ira Vehementi MISSINGNO! --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:34 PM | message detail |
Fact/Fiction: Assuming Sephiroth beats Missingno, Missingno will outdo Snake's percentage on Sephiroth. --- Not Wylvane |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:44 PM | message detail |
We've seen this before and Vincent got fodderized Man, good luck to anyone doing well in a match with Link, Sephiroth, and Mario. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:49 PM | message detail |
sephiroth causing problems for team kleenex/extha i see ! --- study the past if you would define the future |
vcharon | Posted 3/2/2010 9:33:59 PM | message detail |
Fact. Then it will be time to lol at peoples --- :> |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:34:14 PM | message detail |
We've seen this before and Vincent got fodderized LOL 4-WAYS --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 9:34:23 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
redrocket | Posted 3/2/2010 9:35:05 PM | message detail |
X-Stats for joke characters is pretty silly. When have joke characters not held a consistent strength within a single contest? The only counter-example it L-Block's first run, in which he got consistently stronger each round, even against casual-bait Nintendo characters(hello Kirby). --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:35:56 PM | message detail |
Man that was an awesome 500th post if I do say so myself. --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/2/2010 9:36:14 PM | message detail |
Seriously,
LOL 4-ways only goes so far. This is a friggin' 20% difference we're
talking about here. 20%!! That would be like Guybrush putting up 30% on
Link. I think we'd go nuts if that happened too. |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:36:30 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #009 why wouldn't you just say "Team KleenExTha"? --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 9:36:35 PM | message detail |
Good to see anything I do getting massively mixed reactions, no matter what it is. Must be my karma in life or something, rofl --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 9:36:49 PM | message detail |
I'm
not sure if Missingno can get the strength Lblock had. First, he's not
as known as the tetris block. That, and he has less rounds to work
with. Also, do people realize crono would be getting 61/39d here as
well? Seph still climbing rapidly as well. --- hmmmmmmmm |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/2/2010 9:36:50 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #003 Leonhart, I really don't get you right now. Why exactly does Seph get a free pass from failing to SFF this guy to a level almost everyone expected? Would you be defending Mario if he was only managing 61% on Bowser right now? Sephiroth should not be performing this poorly. To me, it suggests that he's getting anti-voted against Vincent. VINCENT. The Vincent who's not even IN THE MATCH PIC. Actually, that might be helping Vincent. Maybe some voters think that gun thing is Missingno. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 9:37:25 PM | message detail |
Because that does not roll off the tongue -- Kleextha, on the other hand ! --- study the past if you would define the future |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:37:35 PM | message detail |
If I could remember the e-mail for my KleenExTha account, I'd post with it right now. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 9:37:52 PM | message detail |
Seriously how do you let Vincent anti-vote you That's like letting Shadow anti-vote you --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:37:58 PM | message detail |
Uh
yoblazer I don't know if you've been watching the poll for the past
like 20 minutes but Sephiroth is tearing **** apart right now. --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:38:02 PM | message detail |
you don't need e-mails to log in anymore silly --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:38:26 PM | message detail |
Why exactly does Seph get a free pass from failing to SFF this guy to a level almost everyone expected? Because what we expect Sephiroth to do means exactly nothing. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 9:38:37 PM | message detail |
Well, that was easier to remember than I thought. |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:38:39 PM | message detail |
Seriously,
LOL 4-ways only goes so far. This is a friggin' 20% difference we're
talking about here. 20%!! That would be like Guybrush putting up 30% on
Link. I think we'd go nuts if that happened too. What happened in that match is that most FFVII supporters realized that Vincent had no chance of advancing, so they voted for Sephiroth trying to put him in first over Link and at least guaranteeing him 2nd. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 9:38:43 PM | message detail |
Leonhart,
I really don't get you right now. Why exactly does Seph get a free pass
from failing to SFF this guy to a level almost everyone expected? cause he's failed at it in the past? He's not an sff machine, so what? That won't matter at all versus missingno. --- hmmmmmmmm |
vcharon | Posted 3/2/2010 9:39:01 PM | message detail |
Wasn't this said in the last topic? For the record, Sephiroth is projected to get 60.75% on Vincent based on the 2008 stats (though Vincent's probably a bit inflated there). --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/2/2010 9:39:05 PM | message detail |
Sephiroth's
got the worst board vote in the whole wide world, and it comes with
reasons. He nearly beat Link with the board vote because the board was
so enthusiastic about getting Mario over him in 2007. Fourways have
obscured it to a degree, but it's there. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 9:39:17 PM | message detail |
People
are seriously overreacting. There was always a chance Vincent resisted
SFF here. This isn't the bottom of an SFF-chain, in a match where he
was irrelevant, and competed against 3 of the 4 strongest characters. I think Missingno/Sephiroth is very, very hard to call. Missingno has at least a 30% chance to win that. But Sephiroth's failure to SFF Vincent - especially during the early vote - doesn't mean much of anything. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Hochimihnister | Posted 3/2/2010 9:39:55 PM | message detail |
61% on Vincent with or without SFF is still way better than 66% on Fox (Which is what Snake got) |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:39:59 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #023 he's still getting almost 10% less than expected here. Regardless of what the Seph Defense Squad (aka SDS) tries to argue here, this is a downright atrocious match for Seph. Theres no reason he shouldn't be sffing another "Bad Ass Bishy" from his same game into the ground. This isn't just lack of SFF; its proof that no matter who Seph faces, he will face heavy anti votes. And when you get Heavy Anti Votes + a massively strong joke character with a bandwagon, Seph is in for a world of hurt. --- http://gameaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sephiroth.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:40:01 PM | message detail |
And
yeah, Sephiroth couldn't SFF smash Auron or Vivi. I know Vincent is
from the same game, and believe me I'm a bit perturbed as to how this
isn't at least 10% worse. But it doesn't mean jack against Missingno. --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
vcharon | Posted 3/2/2010 9:40:34 PM | message detail |
Sephiroth rockets over 61% wow. --- :> |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/2/2010 9:40:38 PM | message detail |
If I could remember the e-mail for my KleenExTha account, I'd post with it right now. Assuming you know the password, you can log in with the universal account name. --- Every night will have a day. Even forever has to come to an end. 2/14/2010 24:00 EST |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 9:40:44 PM | message detail |
The thing you have to remember here is that Vincent is likely still being SFFd. He could be worth 40% or more on Sephiroth. Remember when Mario was worth 40% on Sephiroth after kicking an entire bracket's face in? --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:40:47 PM | message detail |
By the way, my Oracle for this match is going to look GREAT because I called Vinny resisting SFF! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:41:07 PM | message detail |
From: Hochimihnister | #032 And honestly at this rate, Sephiroth could hit 65% or so. --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:41:23 PM | message detail |
The thing you have to remember here is that Vincent is likely still being SFFd. He could be worth 40% or more on Sephiroth. Baseless speculation or hopeful speculation either one. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:41:35 PM | message detail |
Expectations do matter, at least when you're basing future predictions off the same expectations as before. Although this match looks a lot less meaningful at 61% than it did at 58%. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 9:41:39 PM | message detail |
Sephiroth what a beast --- Sephiroth > Snake |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:10 PM | message detail |
Baseless speculation or hopeful speculation either one. Seriously, what is wrong with you tonight? --- http://i46.tinypic.com/v4o0mx.jpg best sig bet EVER |
paraboxx | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:13 PM | message detail |
Seph already 3% above where he was at the freeze. I hope some of you making comments right now take a long, hard look at them in 11 hours...! |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:41 PM | message detail |
So just a question for all the Missingno fanboys. You really think the glitch could 60/40 Vincent? Do you? --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:51 PM | message detail |
hey
guess what people, from all stats knowledge there are 3 characters who
could be doing this to vincent atm, wonder who they are --- hmmmmmmmm |
KleenExTha | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:58 PM | message detail |
KP is a smelly Missingno fanboy, everyone ignore him. --- Sephiroth > Snake |
ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 9:42:59 PM | message detail |
Sephiroth what a beast --- Sephiroth > Snake a monster has been born --- study the past if you would define the future |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:43:03 PM | message detail |
Expectations do matter, at least when you're basing future predictions off the same expectations as before. When it comes to expecting characters to do a certain amount of SFF, it doesn't really mean much to me. Sephiroth has never conformed to our expectations before anyway. This is the guy who can go from this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2871 to this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2899 For no reason. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/2/2010 9:43:14 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #038 I just checked the Oracle, and yours is an incredible pick. Shame about the one before it, though. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |