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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 859

ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 5:22:52 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 5:23:54 PM | message detail
Heck using Samus/Ganondorf Samus was expected to defeat Solid Snake 51/49 and I would imagine that Ganondorf had TP hype in 2006.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 5:25:36 PM | message detail
I still don't understand how he uses that sword.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 5:25:39 PM | message detail
Snake was the favorite over Samus, though. The Oracle prediction for that match was Snake, 51.7%.

The oracle buys into hype, did you know Mario was the favourite to win over Samus by the time the match came in 2005.

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 3/2/2010 5:26:04 PM | message detail
The Snake/Samus and Terra/Squall comparison is silly to begin with. Snake had nothing more than an announcement that he would be in the next game. People actually played Terra in the game. Seems pretty obvious that any new Snake support would be a lot weaker than any new Terra support.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 5:26:22 PM | message detail
The greatest weapon ever conceived right there. Buster Sword got nothin' on this.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 5:26:27 PM | message detail
If I win the Guru, we're nominating Fighter.

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 5:32:00 PM | message detail
I think the mystery of Solid/Samus will stay a mystery -- it's hard to argue with certainty whether or not Samus took his hype away after out-performing her all contest or Solid just wasn't up to the job once Samus was no longer the obvious winner. I don't think anything in 2007 really said anything one way or another about it, either. The one time Solid had a match against a Nintendo-character in that contest, Solid was smashed...but Last Place Factor and L-Block were largely responsible for that, so it's hard to say.

After that, SSBB and MGS4 were out and it was no longer hype and Solid didn't lose his Nintendo-fanbase to anybody since then. Not Mewtwo pre-bandwagon, not Kirby when he was at the peak of his bandwagon, and not Link when Solid's bandwagon let him lead Cloud for forty-eight hours straight. That argument doesn't really work now unless you think Fox over-performed on Solid.
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MetricTrout | Posted 3/2/2010 5:33:44 PM | message detail
The hype was warranted. Snake was much better in 2006 than he was in 2005, and he was consistently outperforming the other. What happened during the previous season does not matter. Mario lost directly against Crono in 2004 by a large margin, and yet he was the favorite in 2005 because he performed that much better that year. Same with Snake in 2006; he was performing that much better.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 3/2/2010 5:33:47 PM | message detail
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goddamn this guy is cool
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 5:36:30 PM | message detail
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the king has arrived


o snap
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ZackFAQs | Posted 3/2/2010 5:36:44 PM | message detail
Same with Snake in 2006; he was performing that much better.

He was, but 55% on Sonic isn't better than the 57.5% Samus got on Sonic in 2004. There's absolutely no proof that Snake 2006 was stronger than Samus 2006 before they met in the final anyway.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 5:36:55 PM | message detail
While I agree that he should have been the favourite going in Samus winning isn't that shocking because that was what we expected before the contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 5:38:32 PM | message detail
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MetricTrout | Posted 3/2/2010 5:49:14 PM | message detail
Not buying into the idea that Samus was underperforming due to being the obvious favorite being anti-voted.

I thought the obvious favorite was supposed to overperform because of bracket voting? So being the obvious favorite sometimes causes a winner to overperform, and other times to underperform?

I doubt bracket voting or anti-voting the favorite are significant factor at all. The average voter does not know or care enough about the contests, and many of those who do vote for the character they like more no matter how favored he is.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 5:52:46 PM | message detail
The average voter does not know or care enough about the contests

That's a big lie, just take a look at SFF four-way matches, see how when both characters are locks SFF doesn't happen (or it is not as bad), but when one of them may be threaten they drop the weaker character.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 5:58:34 PM | message detail
That's a big lie, just take a look at SFF four-way matches, see how when both characters are locks SFF doesn't happen (or it is not as bad), but when one of them may be threaten they drop the weaker character.

I guess Super Metroid/Super Mario Kart is one such example of the former.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/2/2010 6:01:40 PM | message detail
I suppose I need to learn how to get nomination forms in, because I need to help Vincent and Tifa get better seeds.

I'd vote for them and MC over Sonic/Crono/both MMs right now.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:15:19 PM | message detail
I guess Super Metroid/Super Mario Kart is one such example of the former.

You mean the match between four SNES titles?
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creativename | Posted 3/2/2010 6:20:49 PM | message detail
Fail, Squall. Epic fail. This chick got quadrupled by Zelda and you can't come close to the doubling?? Jesus!

And Darth Revan is a beast. Turns out he's stronger in defeat than any of us ever would have thought he'd be in victory!

Also while most of us would think not, there's still a chance that there was some minor SFF here. It's not impossible. What a performance by Terra.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 6:23:45 PM | message detail
You mean the match between four SNES titles?

Nope. I mean the one where both Super Metroid and Super Mario Kart advanced, in round one.
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Magic8Squall | Posted 3/2/2010 6:25:05 PM | message detail
I thought the obvious favorite was supposed to overperform because of bracket voting? So being the obvious favorite sometimes causes a winner to overperform, and other times to underperform?

So what happened to Sephiroth in the Villains Contest?

The funny thing about that was that it made us all think that the winner of the 2005 contest had a shot at beating him.

We all know what happened.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/2/2010 6:26:13 PM | message detail
The one where Mario Kart would've won easily on just about any other site. Seriously.

Though on "any other site" StarCraft would easily handle Final Fantasy VIII, Chrono Trigger, and Twilight Princess, but would lose to the likes of BioShock, Halo 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and GTAIV. I think this is now one of the sites where SC is MOST popular, no?
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:26:16 PM | message detail
Ah...

I was thinking more along the lines of Sephiroth/Tifa and Samus/Ganondorf where they were closer in an earlier round compare to the next round.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:27:11 PM | message detail
No one here thinks that the obvious favorite overperforms because of bracket voting more than a very very small amount. The obvious favorite underperforms in some cases, most notably near the end of brackets they will win, but also earlier in some cases (see round 1 of 2008 and this year).
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:29:47 PM | message detail
Though you know, after seeing Peach, the Boss, and Terra do so well, you could almost begin to think that the Female Bracket was legit.....almost. Tifa did outperform Vincent on Sephiroth by 14% after all!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 6:30:19 PM | message detail
I was thinking more along the lines of Sephiroth/Tifa and Samus/Ganondorf where they were closer in an earlier round compare to the next round.

Dang it... I must've misunderstood then. Why didn't I think of those?
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Magic8Squall | Posted 3/2/2010 6:31:28 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #326
Though you know, after seeing Peach, the Boss, and Terra do so well, you could almost begin to think that the Female Bracket was legit.....almost. Tifa did outperform Vincent on Sephiroth by 14% after all!


Yeah, it's possible that Gordon may do better than expected because Tifa just crushed Peach in that match, but we'll see.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:47:21 PM | message detail
Well, Terra did kind of completely awful in the female bracket. I think that's more proof if it *not* being legit - she did 8% worse against Zelda than against Dante.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 6:49:39 PM | message detail
The Boss points towards the female bracket being unreliable as well. She's definitely worth more than being tripled by Tifa.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:49:57 PM | message detail
Oh, nevermind, missed the context there of Samus/Zelda being legit. (And Zelda > Mega Man/Crono/Sonic.)

But even then, 2k6 Terra is loads worse than 2k5 Terra. I dunno what happened in that Zelda match but it was ugly.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 6:50:42 PM | message detail
The Female Bracket had a lot of the heavy hitters overperforming for some reason.

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Magic8Squall | Posted 3/2/2010 6:51:08 PM | message detail
But even then, 2k6 Terra is loads worse than 2k5 Terra.

I dunno. Terra/Kerrigan went almost exactly as predicted based on 2005.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:54:12 PM | message detail
Oh and if you take Squall equal to Vincent's 45% on Samus (works out roughly to Squall = Vincent = Zelda), 2k10 Terra gets 71.23% on 2k6 Terra. Now that's what I call a boost!
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Magic8Squall | Posted 3/2/2010 6:55:11 PM | message detail
What does she get on 2005 Terra, just for the record?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:55:41 PM | message detail
I dunno. Terra/Kerrigan went almost exactly as predicted based on 2005.

So it did, but that doesn't matter for Terra's final X-stat value, the 20.5% on Zelda does. Versus the 28.5% on Dante the year before. That's quite a difference.
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Magic8Squall | Posted 3/2/2010 6:56:29 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #336
I dunno. Terra/Kerrigan went almost exactly as predicted based on 2005.

So it did, but that doesn't matter for Terra's final X-stat value, the 20.5% on Zelda does. Versus the 28.5% on Dante the year before. That's quite a difference.


Mario = Yuna based on Joanna Dark!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 6:58:34 PM | message detail
What does she get on 2005 Terra, just for the record?

If we keep the Squall=Vincent thing going, 63.03% for 2k10 Terra against 2k5 Terra.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 6:59:42 PM | message detail
I'm just mad that GameFAQs didn't give Zidane the same treatment

Terra wasn't even good in Dissidia you jerks

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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/2/2010 7:02:19 PM | message detail
Terra wasn't even good in Dissidia you jerks

Terra's the only character I can beat Inward Chaos Chaos with, by a long shot.

I wish I was good with Kefka but he's like a crappy version of Terra to me, complete with an awful Meteor and no Holy-Flare-Ultima combo.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/2/2010 7:11:18 PM | message detail
Just for me to know for next year, how do you enter the Oracle and Guru contests?
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 7:12:29 PM | message detail
Oracle - Post your prediction in the oracle topic

Guru - Post your bracket and tiebreaker in the guru topic
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 7:12:52 PM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #341
Just for me to know for next year, how do you enter the Oracle and Guru contests?


Post in them.

You can still enter the Oracle if you want. It's never too late.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53666142

Just follow the directions in the opening post.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 7:13:57 PM | message detail
Just post your predictions in the Oracle topic when it goes up. You can even join the current one if you like, though you won't have points for the matches that have already happened. For the Guru, NGamer usually posts a topic to post your bracket in a few days before brackets close. I think we got rid of sign-ups so all you have to do is post your bracket in that topic.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 7:37:18 PM | message detail
XCIII: (1) Sephiroth vs. (8) Vincent Valentine

Last Round

Sephiroth – 71.80%
Marth – 28.20%

Vincent Valentine – 77.44%
Guybrush Threepwood – 22.56%

Analysis

I’m positive that SBAllen comes into the stats topic every now and then and must know something about SFF. This match would have been fine if Vincent was given an epic match in an earlier round, but this was only the second round and his first round was against Guybrush. Vincent is a powerhouse in this contest and yet is reduced to the role of fodder. At least we can compare this performance to the one he got in 2007 and that Guybrush will look terrible in the x-stats.

It’s pretty safe to say that Vincent will perform significantly better compare to his 23% that he got against Sephiroth in 2007; when Link, Sephiroth and Mario are in the same poll it is quite likely that you are going to get crushed. Vincent is probably more likely to have a similar performance that Tifa had in round 2 of 2008. In the first round there was probably little SFF since the voters knew that both would advance, but in this match only one character can advance so I expect people to shift towards Sephiroth.

Some people expect Vincent to get SFF a bit more than Tifa since even though they are all from the same game it is more likely that a person would like Sephiroth and Vincent than Sephiroth and Tifa because of their personalities and while I agree with that logic that doesn’t necessarily mean more SFF, just a potential for more SFF.

I expect Sephiroth to perform similarly compare to what he did against Tifa. The board vote should be interesting though it would be a safe bet to expect Vincent to win it since the board does favour him. Vincent is easily the most wasted character in the entire bracket; at least Tifa will get to look good for three rounds before meeting Sephiroth.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sephiroth > Vincent Valentine

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sephiroth wins, 67.37% - 32.63%

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 7:38:12 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2920

Yeah

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 7:44:48 PM | message detail
Vincent is easily the most wasted character in the entire bracket; at least Tifa will get to look good for three rounds before meeting Sephiroth.

The only thing that's noteworthy about this match is how bad Guybrush will look in the final X-Stats.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 7:58:50 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #340
Terra wasn't even good in Dissidia you jerks

Terra's the only character I can beat Inward Chaos Chaos with, by a long shot.

I wish I was good with Kefka but he's like a crappy version of Terra to me, complete with an awful Meteor and no Holy-Flare-Ultima combo.


How do you beat IC with her? I haven't bothered with Terra yet.

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LOLContests | Posted 3/2/2010 8:06:44 PM | message detail
The weird part about Samus Vs. Snake wasn't that Samus was legitimately more popular, but that Snake seemingly got no momentum votes at all in that match.

In all fairness nobody thinks that Samus overperformed against Cloud or Mario overperformed against Sephy (although I think that both did a little bit!) and those are comparable situations.
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ZFS | Posted 3/2/2010 8:10:31 PM | message detail
what in the world are you trying to get zelda to win that

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