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Big Daddy probably beats Balthier now, thanks to Bioshock 2.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
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I had Big Daddy picked until I saw his picture for this round. I doubt he wins with that honestly.
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Dissidia had small fraction of what a mainline FF game would. Plus, handheld gaming is about as popular as PC gaming on this site.

Low sales * Handheld * Minimal effect among those who did buy it = really, really small effect overall

As to why Old Square characters are doing so well:

Kefka and Terra: Better pics. We have seen what Kefka scored against Wesker with a good pic. And say what you want about Terra's terrible pic today, but at least she has her trademark green hair.

Cecil: Knuckles just sucks.

Maybe there is no reason for Old Square doing so well this contest. The popularity of characters and games fluctuate for no apparent reason all the time. Has anyone provided a reason why Nintendo boosted in 2005?

From: MetricTrout | #253
And say what you want about Terra's terrible pic today, but at least she has her trademark green hair.

Um, unless I'm mistaken, Terra's hair in the ending FMV is blonde.
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I believe the Dissidia boost exists, but probably only noticeably for Old Square. The New Square characters were probably already around their peak power and it's harder to notice a stronger character boosting from something like this, generally speaking.
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Well, you're right that there doesn't need to be a reason to boost, but it's no coincidence that all the formerly very weak Dissidia characters have looked terrific so far this year. Look at how much Snake boosted from Brawl. Had he been in Dissidia instead, the boost would have been way smaller, but then, pre-Smash Snake demolishes pre-Dissidia Kefka, and he's the strongest of them. Put pre-Dissidia Kefka in, say, SSB4 and I guess the boost would be absolutely colossal.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi

I can't tell that her hair's green in that pic with how bright the lighting is.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

If Dissidia were nver released, I would bet Jecht would've looked horrible against Ratchet and Phoenix would win their match.
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The Gamer In Me
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I still think Big Daddy has a great shot. Unlike Jak and Carl Johnson, Daddy actually seems to be well received and well liked. I know I wouldn't have any trouble taking Soap MacTavish over Geno, and while Daddy's picture isn't the best, I don't think it's bad enough to cost him the match. We'll see.
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Jecht would have never made the bracket at all if not for Dissidia, so yeah that's a pretty fair guess.
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The theory of a Dissidia boost is that it helps Old Square characters because it gives them exposure to a new fanbase. It would make sense, except that the only people likely to buy Dissidia are Final Fantasy fans in the first place.

I'm thinking of putting anyone I see use this logic on ignore from now on to avoid this kind of headache in the future.
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I had Big Daddy picked until I saw his picture for this round. I doubt he wins with that honestly.

Hmmm. Could someone post the match pic for me please?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Snake in Brawl is a good example, actually. The announcement of Snake in Brawl gave him a new fanbase, causing him to beat the crap out of Mega Man, Sonic... and promplty collapse to a Samus that had been disappointing all contest. Smash fans did not vote for a new character over an established one.

Same thing here. If there was a Dissidia boost, then perhaps Cecil, Terra, or Kefka would look good against Arthas, Knuckles, or Revan... but collapse against a character New Square fans were already a fan of. You would expect Squall to drain Terra's Dissidia support, but this is not happening here.

I was skeptical of the idea that a handheld game could really have any significant effect on the contest, and this match just adds to the skepticism.

Snake did far better against Samus than against Mario the year before. He also did really well against Link in last year's finals.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi

You would expect Squall to drain Terra's Dissidia support, but this is not happening here.

Hmm, that's a very good point. If Terra wasn't as known before, Dissidia definitely gives her a boost. But if that strength was mostly from Dissidia, then Squall (who I believe is also in Dissidia) would sap mostly all of that boost away from her.
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If there was a Dissidia boost, then perhaps Cecil, Terra, or Kefka would look good against Arthas, Knuckles, or Revan... but collapse against a character New Square fans were already a fan of. You would expect Squall to drain Terra's Dissidia support, but this is not happening here.

Or, you know, Terra's cutting into Squall's fanbase by being more liked in Dissidia.

Or are you one of those people who insist Snake 2k6 > Samus 2k6 and that Samus rSFFed him because NO WAY IS SAMUS THAT MUCH STRONGER THAN SONIC/MEGAMAN/CRONO LOOK AT THESE 2005 STATS WHERE SAMUS IS GIVEN A FAIRLY ARBITRARY NUMBER!!!111

From: Fayt_Esteed | #262
I had Big Daddy picked until I saw his picture for this round. I doubt he wins with that honestly.

Hmmm. Could someone post the match pic for me please?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb8/cb8-95.jpg

Match pic is either mine or Zen's, we both submitted the exact same thing by accident. Thinking alike, great minds, etc. Not really seeing why people are complaining, I like it. And there's no bias because I made it, either. I legitimately like it.
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But if that strength was mostly from Dissidia, then Squall (who I believe is also in Dissidia) would sap mostly all of that boost away from her.

Then we have Squall losing 60/40 to Dante based on 2005.
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
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We set Samus at Mario's level in 2005. Complaining about her number there is essentially arguing that she was rSFFed... which is ridiculously hypocritical, to say the least.
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Samus > Mario always and 4eva.

It's so cute watching everyone try to continue to deny it. Ulti must have really went to town on Bacon to make sure Samus/Seph still hasn't happened.

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From: Karma Hunter | #269
We set Samus at Mario's level in 2005.

Let it be known I did not invoke this heathenism.
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The announcement of Snake in Brawl gave him a new fanbase, causing him to beat the crap out of Mega Man, Sonic... and promplty collapse to a Samus that had been disappointing all contest. Smash fans did not vote for a new character over an established one.

Hmmm...Based on their respective matches with Sonic, Samus was projected to win with 52.78%. She won with 53.11%.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
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Samus probably is stronger than Mario indirectly, but it's an obviously meaningless fact 1v1. All joking aside, if that match took place before X-Stats and we had Oracles and Gurus and all that (in say, a 2002-2003 setting), I'm willing to bet Mario would be the massive favorite. Like 90% of picks, if not way more.
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Samus probably is stronger than Mario indirectly

I really doubt it.
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uh no kidding. No one would have thought Samus was stronger indirectly back then either.

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Can't stop, won't stop.

Snake did far better against Samus than against Mario the year before. He also did really well against Link in last year's finals.

All that proves is the Mario is stronger, both directly and indirectly, than Samus. Not exactly a revelation.

Oh god how did I incite this conversation again

See you all at Yoshi v glitch
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I've been on both sides of this debate since it started in 2005......it will never end.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi

God I was using a stupid example, FINE I'LL MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS THAT I'M TALKING IN MOCKERY!

Obviously Mega Man dropped off the map because otherwise Samus beats Sephiroth 53-47! See the Villains Contest X-stats say so!
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Then we have Squall losing 60/40 to Dante based on 2005.

That's why it's interesting!

I don't really have an argument for or against that, but his theory does make sense logically. Throwing Snake into SSB gave him a new fanbase to work with (making him stronger), but that fanbase disappears as soon as he faces someone stronger who also shares that fanbase (Samus, Link, Mario). Why wouldn't the same thing happen to old FF characters?
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Throwing Snake into SSB gave him a new fanbase to work with (making him stronger), but that fanbase disappears as soon as he faces someone stronger who also shares that fanbase (Samus, Link, Mario).

The only problem is that isn't what happened to Snake.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

But even in SFF matches, the loser of the SFF doesn't get completely killed. Magus broke 30% against Crono, Knuckles broke 32% against Sonic, etc. And there are many many New Square fans who are not FFVIII fans- that's why FFVII is so much stronger than it.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi

so

since Dissidia is clearly such a big force.


This proves that we need to get Garland into the contest next year. He could take Terra no problem.
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This proves that we need to get Garland into the contest next year. He could take Terra no problem.

And when you vote for his opponent you get a voice clip saying "IMBECILE!" and your vote is changed to Garland.
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Mustache...and Green...

If Garland gets in, would the Guru topic say:

"The following will be knocked down with a Garland win"?
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Throwing Snake into SSB gave him a new fanbase to work with (making him stronger), but that fanbase disappears as soon as he faces someone stronger who also shares that fanbase (Samus, Link, Mario).

The only problem is that isn't what happened to Snake.

Going into the Snake/Samus match, Snake should have been and was the heavy favorite based on his and Samus' performances in that contest. Ignoring Zero Suit Samus vs Tifa, Snake was doing to Mega Man and Sonic what Samus was doing to Zelda. The fact that he lost, easily pretty much confirms an evaporating Smash boost against Samus.

We should get Firion in.

A WORLD FULL OF ROSES
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

Speaking of Final Fantasy characters rank these in terms of contest strength.

Garland
Warrior of Light
Fighter
Black Mage
Red Mage
Thief
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Character Battle VIII - 93/116 - Today's Winners: Auron and Squall

Going into the Snake/Samus match, Snake should have been and was the heavy favorite based on his and Samus' performances in that contest. Ignoring Zero Suit Samus vs Tifa, Snake was doing to Mega Man and Sonic what Samus was doing to Zelda. The fact that he lost, easily pretty much confirms an evaporating Smash boost against Samus.

Or that Samus was being anti-voted in the last two matches of the Female Bracket, a la Sephiroth in the Villains Contest.

(Oh, and don't bring up that Samus should have been in the same scenario as the obvious favorite against Snake because she only had 12% winning the contest despite having 41% getting to the final)
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
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We should get Firion in.

A WORLD FULL OF ROSES

let's not be crazy here

Garland
Warrior of Light
Fighter
Black Mage
Red Mage
Thief


GARLAND
Black Mage
Red Mage
Fighter
Thief
Warrior of Light


because Warrior of Light is stupid and the other four are in that comic thing and Garland is Garland.
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Going into the Snake/Samus match, Snake should have been and was the heavy favorite based on his and Samus' performances in that contest. Ignoring Zero Suit Samus vs Tifa, Snake was doing to Mega Man and Sonic what Samus was doing to Zelda. The fact that he lost, easily pretty much confirms an evaporating Smash boost against Samus.

Or if we go and say lol female bracket and look at the 2005 stats Samus winning isn't that surprising.
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Character Battle VIII - 93/116 - Today's Winners: Auron and Squall

I would take Black Mage and Fighter over Garland, but I think the three will be close.
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Character Battle VIII - 93/116 - Today's Winners: Auron and Squall

The 2006 final was a fairly obvious case of Nintendo overlap.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #293
The 2006 final was a fairly obvious case of Nintendo overlap.

Based on...
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

If Garland gets in, would the Guru topic say:

"The following will be knocked down with a Garland win"?

That'd be pretty neat.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

The 2006 final was a fairly obvious case of Nintendo overlap.

No it wasn't. We were just Snake crazy at the time, looking back it shouldn't have caught us off-guard.
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Character Battle VIII - 93/116 - Today's Winners: Auron and Squall

Black Mage
Fighter
Garland
Teef
Red Mage
Warrior of Light

Who likes the WoL? No one, that's who.
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Man, people talk about Snake/Sonic like that's a reason he should have been the favorite over Samus. Did I miss some incredible awesome Sonic boost between 2004 and 2006 that can't be easily described by Crono overperforming in the 2005 finals?

Crono overperforming in 2005 finals is a stretch I know but looking back all three of Crono/Sonic/MM either gained ground or didn't lose any on Samus despite the 2005 Nintendo boost.
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Snake was the favorite over Samus, though. The Oracle prediction for that match was Snake, 51.7%.

I'm sure this has mentioned before but all this Dissidia talk has me thinking...

Lets imagine Smash never existed (bizarro world, I know) and everything else remains constant...

Would Link still win the majority of the Gamefaqs character contests?
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