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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 859
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 9:08:20 AM | message detail |
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:09:06 AM | message detail |
...Whatever. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/2/2010 9:09:54 AM | message detail |
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:12:42 AM | message detail |
Squall last name is Leonheart and his best limit is called Leonheart...Conspiracy! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/2/2010 9:21:47 AM | message detail |
Oh wow Squall This is awful. I'm sure there's some rSFF involved but really, come on. People say this guy is on Vincent's level? |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:23:11 AM | message detail |
He
is.Terra got huge boost from Dissidia.No other way.Also a lot of pity
votes I guess,I like Squall but I voted for Terra.I guess a lot of
others did that too.Still if it ends as doubling all are well. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/2/2010 9:23:44 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #004 Are you saying he's not? --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/2/2010 9:29:28 AM | message detail |
I'm
not doubting that Dissidia boosted Terra. But Terra lost 80-20 to
Zelda. When you consider the fact that Squall was also in Dissidia and
wad by far the most impressive protagonist there it really doesn't make
sense. If Squall was stronger than Zelda that's a huge difference. It's
just too much for one game on the least popular current system on
GameFAQs. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/2/2010 9:49:43 AM | message detail |
...whatever --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:50:10 AM | message detail |
Zelda's quadrupling of Terra is like pointing to Yuna's quadrupling of Joanna Dark and saying she's as strong as Mario now. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:50:34 AM | message detail |
THAT's more like it, Squall! --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:50:48 AM | message detail |
If the match was happened again Zelda wouldn't even double her I believe. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 9:51:05 AM | message detail |
For reference, pre-Dissidia Terra: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2086 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2508 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2535 --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:51:10 AM | message detail |
I don't trust that Zelda/Terra match. Dante/Terra is probably closer to her true strength before this contest. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:52:19 AM | message detail |
Now
that Terra is proving to be strong, I can confidently say Sonic Team
hasn't dropped (much), and thus Cecil is gonna be awesome next contest
while the rest of you get burned as he makes it to the third round due
to drawing a crappy 2 seed! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 9:53:03 AM | message detail |
I agree Zelda/Terra's the oddball...that was one hell of a beatdown though. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:53:25 AM | message detail |
Chart from the night match: Time | Auron | Zero | Votes 0:05 | 52.69% | 47.31% | 1357 1:00 | 53.83% | 46.17% | 9382 2:00 | 53.85% | 46.15% | 5653 3:00 | 55.62% | 44.38% | 4045 4:00 | 57.66% | 42.34% | 2955 5:00 | 60.21% | 39.79% | 2453 6:00 | 59.72% | 40.28% | 2351 7:00 | 58.38% | 41.62% | 2934 8:00 | 59.92% | 40.08% | 3538 9:00 | 56.87% | 43.13% | 3974 10:00 | 58.06% | 41.94% | 4113 11:00 | 56.63% | 43.37% | 4104 12:00 | 58.14% | 41.86% | 4195 Man, gotta love Square's and Mega Man's overnight Euro vote! Auron manages a 60% hour there. Zero doesn't really improve a whole lot during the morning though. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 9:53:25 AM | message detail |
Tag And Vincent being wasted in the second round is one of several reasons why the Jenova division is so awful. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:54:20 AM | message detail |
Yeah, Terra's strong showing makes Revan, Bowser, and Knuckles look better, that's for sure. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:54:28 AM | message detail |
The Jenova division sucked.3 FF VII characters and all 3 are strong!Come on now!Who thought of that? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LOLContests | Posted 3/2/2010 9:54:46 AM | message detail |
Lady Gaga > Heath Ledger --- "Then I'll be going now. I'll come back when it's all over."--Aeris Gainsborough Yesmar |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 3/2/2010 9:56:15 AM | message detail |
Dissidia
is not that big a deal especially when Squall should be SFF'ing her
Dissidia vote. I'm not saying she didn't boost but Squall=Vincent is
just out of the question now. I'd say he's more on the level of Dante
or Ryu. Yeah Zelda did overperform but even looking at her other
matches... |
Jmast7 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:57:08 AM | message detail |
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted... --- Currently playing: Zelda Double Feature: Spirit Tracks & Twilight Princess Currently Watching: BSG: Season 4, LOST: Season 6 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:57:10 AM | message detail |
Well, I can point to Vincent's performance against Guybrush and make him look pretty bad, too! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 9:57:36 AM | message detail |
I'll
also agree Sonic Team's not looking so bad now and go back to a former
theory: four-ways made the Sonic-crew look worse than they really were.
Ammy did rather well so Shadow looks okay, Kefka/Terra make Cecil look
considerably more reasonable against Knuckles, Kratos isn't looking too
bad if Charmander's a legitimate contender to win his division so Tails
improves, and Sonic SFF'd Knuckles pretty harshly for previously
winning a Sonic-favorite poll before. Only Lightning still makes Sonic
look bad at this point, and she's a wildcard that -- while I still hate
to give her credit for not having an American game out yet -- can be
justified by the surrounding evidence. Ganon may be in dangerous territory. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 9:58:27 AM | message detail |
Lightning not having a game out yet isn't really that big of a deal when everyone already knows who she is. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/2/2010 9:58:49 AM | message detail |
Uh... what the heck is going on here? Terra... above 37%? This is probably the weirdest result yet, seriously. It makes Akuma look like absolute garbage, too... --- CURRENT BRACKET SCORE: 100. Next five choices: Auron, Squall, Sephiroth, Crono, Big Daddy |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/2/2010 9:59:14 AM | message detail |
The Jenova division sucked.3 FF VII characters and all 3 are strong!Come on now!Who thought of that? Also, four Square near-elites or higher in the same division. Everyone else other than Yoshi is either unknown (Missingno) or fodder. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:59:21 AM | message detail |
For
comedy purposes, if you assume Sonic 2010 = Sonic 2005, and Knuckles is
worth 40% on Sonic pre-SFF, that puts Cecil around Ryu (SF) levels. Now imagine if Dante had lost to Cecil! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 9:59:40 AM | message detail |
Also Squall has a great chance at going up in percent throughout the day. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/2/2010 9:59:42 AM | message detail |
I
don't think there's a reason to assume Squall is significantly weaker.
He still did fine on Akuma in Round 1; it was a performance that
suggested he was still at least at Ganon's level (and if you think
Akuma is close to Ken, Squall beats Ganon). This is just Dissidia
craziness. Maybe this match is completely legit, maybe Terra is
resisting SFF, or maybe Squall is just getting anti-voted a bit. I'd
find all those scenarios more likely than a significant Squall drop. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:00:51 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
Squall/Akuma went almost exactly as it would have been expected to go
based on 2007 through Geno. Squall still looks better than Ganondorf. I
think this is just FFVI being better. I just didn't think they'd look THIS much better. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:08 AM | message detail |
What the **** is this? Squall is not even at 63% on TERRA? --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:12 AM | message detail |
I
dunno. Auron/Aerith went almost exactly as Squall/Aerith did in 2007,
for what little that's worth. You'd figure Auron would do better than
that if he were affected less, at least. Squall has always been stronger than Auron though. If Auron in 2010 got what Squall got in 07 then it does look like Squall fell a bit more than Auron at least. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/2/2010 10:01:44 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #034 Gotta assume Aerith has fallen, too, though. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/2/2010 10:08:56 AM | message detail |
Man, just imagine what would have happened if Terra wasn't
fed to Squall in Round Two. She could have really busted some brackets
up with her newfound strength... though I guess Terra > Revan was a
bracket buster in itself! Speaking of which, I feel a little bad for giving Revan so much flack now. This weird Terra performance definitely vindicates him to an extent. --- CURRENT BRACKET SCORE: 102. Next five choices: Squall, Sephiroth, Crono, Big Daddy, Gordon |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/2/2010 10:09:36 AM | message detail |
Wow,
impressive showing for Terra. Maybe Bowser still has a shot against
Sora? Strange how old Square has looked great this year while new
Square has been collectively sucking. |
zenk123 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:10:27 AM | message detail |
I expected Terra to get destroyed due to SFF and her mediocre pic. What a pleasant surprise. --- i dunno |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/2/2010 10:11:38 AM | message detail |
Man, just imagine what would have happened if Terra wasn't fed to Squall in Round Two Swap Terra with Crash. That's a night match with Hayabusa followed by a day match with Master Chief. I wonder if Terra could pull that off. --- Every night will have a day. Even forever has to come to an end. 2/14/2010 24:00 EST |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:11:54 AM | message detail |
Same here I thought Dissidia attracted new Sqaure fans so I thought Squall would SFF her based on that game. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:13:29 AM | message detail |
So
a question for experts.Let us say Squall ends with 60%.What is the
prediction for Squall-Auron?Squall wins by 51-49?And what if he ends
with 65,then Squall wins by 53-47?(the numbers are random since that is
why I ask the experts to tell what will happen according to stats...) --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LOLContests | Posted 3/2/2010 10:13:31 AM | message detail |
Swap
Terra with Crash. That's a night match with Hayabusa followed by a day
match with Master Chief. I wonder if Terra could pull that off. Please don't torture me with such glorious possibilities. --- "Then I'll be going now. I'll come back when it's all over."--Aeris Gainsborough Yesmar |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/2/2010 10:13:34 AM | message detail |
From the previous topic: I wonder how many 0 bracket attempts we had this year? TRE will have to report back on the number of 0 brackets after the first match of the contest, because that had the highest prediction percentage so far this contest. I assume most of the 0 brackets after the first match of the contest were actually 0 brackets, rather than Thrall fans picking him over Link. 889 brackets got Link vs Thrall wrong. --- Every night will have a day. Even forever has to come to an end. 2/14/2010 24:00 EST |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 10:13:56 AM | message detail |
Well,
I think Auron/Squall's still up in the air, but I'm favoring Auron more
now than I did pre-contest. I think Squall's beat-down on Akuma is more
impressive than what Auron did to Zero, though not by a lot...but when
you compare their SFF-matches, I'm much more impressed with what Auron
did with Aeris than Squall is doing to Terra, even if this is a new
Terra who'll go down with the day-vote. Who expected her not to be
doubled, or even close to being doubled? Anybody? The problem here is that Squall still outdid Auron against Aeris...but between the new format, two and a half years separating them, and a new name for Aeris, their gap is pretty negligible since it meant Auron would get 49.45% on Squall based on her. That's easy enough to turn over by random variations and the changes in format/time/name (though that doesn't mean it WILL), so the match should rightfully be back up in the air. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 3/2/2010 10:16:33 AM | message detail |
So
a question for experts.Let us say Squall ends with 60%.What is the
prediction for Squall-Auron?Squall wins by 51-49?And what if he ends
with 65,then Squall wins by 53-47?(the numbers are random since that is
why I ask the experts to tell what will happen according to stats...) It's clear Terra has boosted by a lot so this match doesn't say much about Squall. Revan was also a newcomer so we can't use him to determine how strong Terra is. --- Every night will have a day. Even forever has to come to an end. 2/14/2010 24:00 EST |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/2/2010 10:16:44 AM | message detail |
Swap
Terra with Crash. That's a night match with Hayabusa followed by a day
match with Master Chief. I wonder if Terra could pull that off. Ooh, scary thought. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:17:42 AM | message detail |
So
a question for experts.Let us say Squall ends with 60%.What is the
prediction for Squall-Auron?Squall wins by 51-49?And what if he ends
with 65,then Squall wins by 53-47?(the numbers are random since that is
why I ask the experts to tell what will happen according to stats...) This match doesn't really tell us anything since we don't know how much Squall has boosted though if you want to if we use a constant Terra from 2k5 Auron would almost double Squall right now. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:18:19 AM | message detail |
*Terra has boosted not Squall. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/2/2010 10:19:52 AM | message detail |
I'm amazed by how big this Kefka/Terra/Cecil boost has been. It's pretty incredible... did Dissidia even sell that well? And Auron/Squall looks much more interesting now, o' course. --- Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 3/2/2010 10:19:55 AM | message detail |
Swap
Terra with Crash. That's a night match with Hayabusa followed by a day
match with Master Chief. I wonder if Terra could pull that off. Dude. Dude. That's brilliant! And to top it all off, Crash/Revan is a potentially debatable match as well. --- CURRENT BRACKET SCORE: 102. Next five choices: Squall, Sephiroth, Crono, Big Daddy, Gordon |