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Vincent beat Squall very narrowly and in the year he got Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children. No way he wins a rematch.
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So the 3rd strongest FF character?Not bad.I guess Emo teens rule right?
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From: Wii_TuRtLe | #301
Vincent beat Squall very narrowly and in the year he got Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children. No way he wins a rematch.

Yet Squall would win based on virtually nothing? I mean come on. I love the assumption that Squall is stronger than Vincent despite losing to him directly, really hilarious stuff.

Auron really took off overnight, this looks like a good performance by him now.
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The match was already close enough as it is that you can't really say Vincent was stronger than Squall there. That margin of victory doesn't really mean anything
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Vincent > Squall until proven otherwise. I don't understand these people saying Squall > Vincent or Crono > Sonic etc, for any of those types of matches between two entrants of similar strength when there isn't _any_ concrete evidence for Squall or Crono being able to win. Sure, Vince and Sonic won a few years ago now, but it's better than not having a win at all.

So you can't say Vincent was stronger, but you can say Squall is. Okay.
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Maybe it is like Shepard I mean he got a huge boost because of ME2.So Vincent got a boost because of the game and the movie.So that is why Squall should probably won now.But it would be a close match I guess.
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No I think Vincent most definetely wins the rematch now. Yes, he was coming off of some recent releases just like MC in '07 and Shepard/Big Daddy this year, but it's not like Vincent dropped the ball and randomly disappointed right the next season. And Sub-Zero did about as well on Auron last time as he did in '06, despite him having reason to overperform more in the latter case according to this "game fuel" theory.

I'd take Squall > Vincent in a rematch without thinking twice.
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Squall has Dissidia now. Whether it helps him or not, we should get a good idea with Squall/Terra. If he wrecks Terra, he probably got a good boost out of it. If Terra holds up surprisingly well, then it probably did jack **** for him.

Anyway, nice climb for Auron, even if this was Zero's worst time. Too bad it's not a day match so that Zero would've made this look close and possibly brought back Luigi > Auron!

Also, this needs to be Luigi's match pic against Link: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2917/373950lllllllluililarge.jpg
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How can we judge a Dissidia boost in a match between two people in Dissidia? >_>
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it stands to reason that Terra would get a bigger boost from Dissidia than Squall, owing to the fact that a lot of newer Final Fantasy players probably never played FF6.
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For the record, I'd probably still pick Vincent over Squall in a rematch. Hell, I don't even know yet if I'd take Squall over Crono!

A Vincent/Squall rematch would be great, though. Imagine the debate for that one!
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Vincent also got 55/45'd by Crono the year he beat Squall. Vincent's probably stronger than then too. I would take Vincent>Squall without thinking much, although it could go either way. But Vincent deserves to be the favorite there.

It's quite possible Tifa is right there with them. Too bad we won't get any clear read on her with the stupid Jenova division. Even if Sephiroth loses basing things on MIssingno wouldn't be too reliable.
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I'm figuring the person with the larger Dissidia support will do relatively better. If Squall takes Terra down to her normal level or worse from SFF, then Squall leeches away her Dissidia support. If Terra overperforms against Squall, then Squall's Dissidia boost is minimal compared to characters like Cecil, Kefka, and possibly Jecht.
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From: Not_Wylvane | #1510
Squall has Dissidia now. Whether it helps him or not, we should get a good idea with Squall/Terra. If he wrecks Terra, he probably got a good boost out of it. If Terra holds up surprisingly well, then it probably did jack **** for him.

Why would Squall wrecking Terra mean he boosted from Dissidia? I don't agree with that at all. Squall *should* wreck Terra.
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Match XCII: (10) Terra Branford vs. (2) Squall Leonhart

Last Round

Darth Revan – 46.13%
Terra Branford – 53.87%

Squall Leonhart – 68.01%
Akuma – 31.99%

Analysis

As badly as the 2 seeds were being killed off it was a lock pre-contest that Squall would keep the 2 seed count to at least one and from the looks of it that will be what we’ll get. The reason for this is because of the nomination system. Weaker characters that get a lot of nominations are able to get a decent seed due to less people nominating then voting and the massive vote split. As seen before nomination strength doesn’t equal bracket strength and thus we see the fall of many 3 seeds and 2 seeds when the bracket shifted to 8 divisions. Still it wasn’t like all of the 2 seeds were terrible; Dante, Kratos and Master Chief all have decent strength, they just got strong opponents.

While the board got a good chuckle out of Darth Revan being so weak part of the blame should be laid on Terra for having decent strength in this contest. Like Kefka and most likely Cecil Terra performed a lot better, the problem with this match is that she’s against fellow Square character Squall. While old and new Final Fantasy don’t have much overlap it makes sense that there might be some because of Dissidia. From an in-game perspective I don’t see either character being ranked a lot higher than the other, but the main reason why old Final Fantasy character boosted and the new ones didn’t is because fans of new Final Fantasy bought the game and became acquainted of past Final Fantasy characters.

It’s a shame that we won’t exactly know Terra’s strength from this match and worse of all Squall can’t add any hype to the Squall/Auron match next round, even if he does crush Terra badly. Speaking of crushing this match could end up being the biggest blowout of the round if Terra gets SFF badly. Squall does have a great chance at breaking 70% with SFF factored in. If there isn’t any SFF I would expect the match to be more of a 65/35 affair.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Squall Leonhart > Darth Revan

charmander6000’s Prediction: Squall wins, 70.27% - 29.73%

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It doesn't make sense to me that Tifa would be Vincent-level strong, but then you gotta figure she's gotta be at least around Auron's level and probably higher than that, so that doesn't give her much room to be weaker than Vincent.

Of course, we haven't had a good read on her since 2005, unless Samus/Tifa wasn't a fluke and Tifa really did boost to Samus's level! Four-way SFF isn't kind at all to FF7 characters like it was to Samus, as we can see with Cloud crushing Sephy and Sephy crushing Vincent!

For all we know, Tifa's an elite!
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It doesn't make sense that Vincent is Vincent-level strong either.

He's an optional character...
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People taking Vincent again are forgetting Squall got KH2 after his match with Vincent. That alone would easily overcome the difference between them, nevermind the PSN rerelease of FF8 and Dissidia. Don't really see how Vincent/Squall is arguable considering Squall has had multiple reasons to boost since 2k5 and Vincent hasn't.
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What was there to be surprised about with Pikachu? He had perhaps the most predictable path of anyone in this contest--win his fourpack with ease and then lose to Solid Snake in round 3.

I agree that Squall-Auron isn't an easy match to predict, but I think Squall is the favorite. Fun fact: Auron's round 1 win over Aerith was only the second time he's avoided elimination when faced with a fellow Square character; the first was his opening round fourpack last year with Rydia playing fodder.

...Of course, this is somewhat misleading, because the Square character that knocked him out was always a Noble Niner (Cloud in 2003 and 2007, Sephiroth in 2004 and 2008, and Crono in 2006). So...yeah, you know what? We really don't have much of a read on Auron. He managed to take first place in a four-way with Sonic, but he also lost to Ganondorf back in 2005, and his best 1v1 win is...well, this one right here, but before that, it would probably have to be beating Sub-Zero.

Damn, FFX is overrated. I feel much better about picking Squall now.
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Yeah, Tifa's likely stronger than I give her credit for, since even though her last non-wonky performance had her losing to Sonic with 43.6%, Vincent only fared a little better on Crono that same year, and look at Vincent now! If Tifa did similarly well, she could be up there with Vincent and Squall.

Tifa could be a great wild card next year, assuming she doesn't get once again screwed over by bracket placement!
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People taking Vincent again are forgetting Squall got KH2 after his match with Vincent. That alone would easily overcome the difference between them

And yet he still couldn't beat Sonic in the same year Vinnie beat Crono! oh dear

Don't really see how Vincent/Squall is arguable considering Squall has had multiple reasons to boost since 2k5 and Vincent hasn't.

Reasons schmeasons. Boosts schmoosts. Argue for them and their effects all you want, but Squall has done absolutely nothing to prove he can take Vincent down.

It's quite possible Tifa is right there with them. Too bad we won't get any clear read on her with the stupid Jenova division. Even if Sephiroth loses basing things on MIssingno wouldn't be too reliable.

Yeah. The Jenova division's got to be the worst division since 2004. Only 5 characters with actual strength, and four of those - Crono, Sephiroth, Tifa, and Vincent - are Square near-elites or higher. I'm not judging Missingno. Everyone else is fodder.
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Brawl boosted Sonic? You know, the one who beasted from one round to the next visibly? Remember, Squall came close to that boosted Sonic twice. Crono had no such boosts and Vincent still barely beat him. Don't see how that's a knock on Squall tbh.
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I'm not sure if Squall can beat Vincent...does Vincent let Sora get 48% on him?
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...When did that happen? I don't remember any match between Squall and Sora being that close.
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I'm not going to be entirely unreasonable; I would give Squall a chance. Not much, but I think the Squall hate has subsided while FFVII hate hasn't. It's just that Squall supporters seem to think it's a 100% certainty that he wins when their only evidence is supposed boosts and the so-called 'FF7 decline', neither of which have been proven to exist.

Squall doesn't need a reason to beat Vincent- Vincent only won with 50.5% last time. A rematch would essentially be a toss-up.
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...KH2 isn't a provable boost? Wot?
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #1560
Don't really see how Vincent/Squall is arguable considering Squall has had multiple reasons to boost since 2k5 and Vincent hasn't.

Except for the fact that, you know, Vincent has boosted since then. Again...55/45'd by Crono to beating him.

He's probably gone from about 32% on Link to 35%. Similar to the jump Squall has had.

This "Squall has reason to boost there he overcomes the slight margin for sure" logic is absurd. A rematch could easily go either way, but there's no reason for Squall to be the actual favorite.
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It will be interesting to see how Terra fares vs Squall.

We noticed she got boosted by Dissidia along with Kefka who really messed up the board with his unexpected victory.

Of course Squall is the favorite to win, but if Terra manages to get 45% on Squall then she'll definitely be seen as more of a mid carder than high end fodder.
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From: Wii_TuRtLe | #301
Vincent beat Squall very narrowly and in the year he got Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children. No way he wins a rematch.

Actually, Squall/Vincent took place right before Advent Children was leaked, and Dirge of Cerberus was later. Squall didn't have KHII yet then either, so they probably canceled each other out.

And yet he still couldn't beat Sonic in the same year Vinnie beat Crono! oh dear

Yeah, it's not like Sonic was announced for Brawl mid-contest and it didn't visibly affect his performance or anything!

From: Draco1214 | #328
I'm not sure if Squall can beat Vincent...does Vincent let Sora get 48% on him?

If Vincent gets a Smilin' Vincent picture or gets stuck in the poll with another FFVII character, then why not!

But really, that match is still a tossup. I'd pick Squall for obvious reasons, but the reason Vincent won last time no longer exists: FFVII's day vote.
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Vincent beat Squall very narrowly and in the year he got Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children. No way he wins a rematch.

Vincent beat Squall the year before he got the two of those games actually.

After what we've seen so far this contest, I would take:

Mega Man > Squall > Vincent = Auron > Tifa > Sonic > Crono > Sora

Sora appears to have completely dropped off back to where he was prior to KHII for some reason. Or Laharl has just boosted for no apparent reason.
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In all fairness there should be several characters between Crono and Sora, but I'm trying to limit this to the Noble Nine/Square Near Elites. And stick in Zack right around Sonic and Crono as well.
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Advent Children is not a game!

I'd pick Vincent in a rematch, no doubt about it. Then again, I have a bit of bias against Squall and FFVIII.

Mega Man > Squall > Vincent = Auron > Tifa > Sonic > Crono > Sora
I have no idea what happened this contest that gave you a legitimate reading on Crono or Vincent.

From: red sox 777 | #332
Squall doesn't need a reason to beat Vincent- Vincent only won with 50.5% last time. A rematch would essentially be a toss-up.

This. No one would be foolish for taking Dante in a rematch against Ryu either.
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I think if Luster had broadband he could challenge that.

LOL voltch. I don't need broadband to challenge that. I still have dial-up and that's likely to stay the same for my area until a broadband provider starts providing broadband. Or government intervention forces the broadband providers to provide service to areas that don't have access to it.
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From: ExThaNemesis | #339
This. No one would be foolish for taking Dante in a rematch against Ryu either.

From: charmander6000 | #340
Dante better hope for an epic hockey game again.

If Ryu/Dante happens again, I want a DMC3/4 pic of Dante so everyone can shut the hell up when Ryu beats him for the third time in a row.
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From: LOLContests | #338
In all fairness there should be several characters between Crono and Sora, but I'm trying to limit this to the Noble Nine/Square Near Elites. And stick in Zack right around Sonic and Crono as well.

So you're saying Mega Man 60/40s Crono and Sonic nowadays?

I guess you're on the Mega Man > Mario bandwagon, too, then?
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So you're saying Mega Man 60/40s Crono and Sonic nowadays?

Nope, but he wouldn't 60/40 Zack with a better picture (even his R2 pic from 2008) either.
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There's no reason to think Vincent and Crono are far apart this year at all.
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Nope, but he wouldn't 60/40 Zack with a better picture (even his R2 pic from 2008) either.

There's absolutely no difference between Zack's R2 pic last year and his R2 pic this year. They look like the same guy!

And if you think the Buster Sword is automatically worth...How much are you saying it's worth to put Zack in the discussion with Crono and Sonic anyway?
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