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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 858

UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 2:34:01 PM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Achromatic | Posted 3/1/2010 2:34:17 PM | message detail
oh crap this was a 0 topic
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Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:56:28 PM | message detail
lol awesome
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:56:50 PM | message detail
As you wish.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:57:16 PM | message detail
I was trying for that EXACT same 500 post. Nice one.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 6:58:46 PM | message detail
Tag
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:59:37 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #006
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XDDDDDDDDD yes
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/1/2010 6:59:43 PM | message detail
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creativename | Posted 3/1/2010 7:13:33 PM | message detail
0 topic? Huh?

I imagine this is as good of an idea of how it's going to go as any:

Time | Mega Man | ZackFAQs | Votes
0:05 | 64.45% | 35.55% | 1336
1:00 | 64.59% | 35.41% | 9748
2:00 | 63.94% | 36.06% | 5990
3:00 | 62.21% | 37.79% | 4364
4:00 | 59.50% | 40.50% | 3237
5:00 | 57.08% | 42.92% | 2635
6:00 | 56.22% | 43.78% | 2510
7:00 | 57.52% | 42.48% | 3140
8:00 | 59.50% | 40.50% | 3664
9:00 | 61.35% | 38.65% | 4098
10:00 | 62.47% | 37.53% | 4325
11:00 | 62.37% | 37.63% | 4507
12:00 | 62.54% | 37.46% | 4173


Ah yes, good call. Auron should do a bit better at the start and morning than Zack so the trends shouldn't be as emphatic. The Aeris match showed Auron's overnight trends aren't as extreme as the FF7 supporting cast. But yeah, Zero will be hurting during the dead hours.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/1/2010 7:16:30 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #008
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What a great pic!

I'm impressed with Shepard here. Going from 35% on Magus to 39% on Pikachu is a pretty big jump. Would that be enough to actually beat Magus now? I don't trust that guy anymore, so I'd take the Commander, but not with much confidence.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:17:37 PM | message detail
We know the rat is stronger than Alucard, and not by a trivial amount either, so, yeah, Shepard probably beats Magus.

Seems everyone beats Magus these days.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:17:47 PM | message detail
Fenix says Zero gets 44.18% on Auron...so the better Auron does than that, the better he looks against Squall. I don't think Zero will get THAT high, but he should outdo Aeris. His new fighting game can't hurt him, either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:18:51 PM | message detail
Aerith actually did quite a bit better overnight than Auron did. Auron rocked her with the morning vote about as badly as he did the first two hours of the poll.

Would that be enough to actually beat Magus now? I don't trust that guy anymore, so I'd take the Commander, but not with much confidence.

Pikachu vs. Alucard: Who wins and by how much?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:19:36 PM | message detail
Fenix says Zero gets 44.18% on Auron.

I don't think comparing 2007 Fenix to 2010 Fenix is the best idea.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:21:06 PM | message detail
Pikachu 55-45 or thereabouts.
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 7:21:16 PM | message detail
If zero just breaks 40% its impressive, but with megaman seemingly tearing FF down, you never know, zero might impress.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:29:29 PM | message detail
I was using 2008-Fenix. Besides, even if it was 2007-Fenix, that would have been against Auron-with-Cloud.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:31:09 PM | message detail
Oh right, totally forgot Fenix faced Auron in 2007 and 2008.

Hmmm...I dunno what to think of Gears of War though. It seems to get weaker every time we see it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:32:05 PM | message detail
Which means Zero looks worse!
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:34:44 PM | message detail
44% would have been if Fenix didn't drop since 2008.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/1/2010 7:34:49 PM | message detail
2008 and this year are probably closer to Fenix's static strength. 2007 was a combination of GeoW 2 and GAME FUEL runoff.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:36:27 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #019
Which means Zero looks worse!


Which is possible. Auron with 60% wouldn't really surprise me here, honestly.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:37:00 PM | message detail
It's kinda funny how despite being his strongest in 2007 and having Cloud in the poll, Fenix still fell shy of 40% on Auron. Maybe Last Place Factor came into play there, but it's still pretty lame!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 7:38:36 PM | message detail
Hmmm...I dunno what to think of Gears of War though. It seems to get weaker every time we see it.

Or maybe... If you ask me, it was never really that strong to begin with.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:44:43 PM | message detail
Eh, I think Auron will do better than 56%, but I'll be impressed if he beats him worse than Aeris. Then again though, Auron only did just enough against Aeris to show he can keep competitive with Squall, so it might say more about Zero than Auron.

I'd rather compare Auron/Squall through Zero and Akuma, but there's not a good way to judge Akuma and Zero got his first big game in awhile so I don't know how accurate we can really be. Aeris would be a better comparison between them if Squall's match with her wasn't a four-way, and Terra/Squall's a SFF-match where we don't exactly know how much SFF is supposed to happen...so I don't think anybody's opinions are really going to change this round unless something extreme happens (and I'm sure most people will think Squall's beat-down on Terra is extreme, what-ev).
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:46:44 PM | message detail
Hey guys, this is Albion. My new account since MyWorldisCrono and Lightslayer were banned, lol.

My thoughts on this match: I think this is pretty impressive from Shepard. I don't think Pikachu is anywhere near as anti voted as he once was. You don't get 75% or whatever he got against Banjo if you're anti voted, so I think this is a pretty good performance that cements Shepards place as a regular character in these contests, I think. He seems like a legit low midcarder, and has plenty of potential to rise even more from that. He is without a doubt the strongest Bioware character now.

Also, I think that Zero is going to have a good show tonight. I'm thinking about 45%... I'd never take Aerith over Zero, afterall. Plus he should have a better first 4 hours than Auron will (but Auron will crush him before the morning vote hits). I think this match will expose Auron as not having a legit chance against Squall.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:48:20 PM | message detail
Speaking of which, how high would Zero have to get before you'd rule out Auron beating Squall? 50.01%?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/1/2010 7:48:20 PM | message detail
Couldn't stay banned, eh?
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/1/2010 7:49:24 PM | message detail
I think Zero is going to disappoint relative to some of the expectations here. He should have no trouble outdoing Aeris, and he'll probably be around 52-53% for the first few hours, but that lame Europe vote is like cryptonite to Mega Man characters. Proto Man may have outdone Fox if he had a day match against Snake.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 3/1/2010 7:49:48 PM | message detail
With how good Megaman's doing, and with how strong Zero used to be, I'm expecting this one to be alot closer than most think. Maybe 54-46
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:04:33 PM | message detail
If Zero breaks, say, 46% on Zero and Squall kicks ass as usual against Terra, I'd give up hope on the upset...but I'm not so worried about that; as long as they're close, it's a fanbase-battle within Square and that's what I'm counting on. It's hard to expect Auron to statistically look like the favorite against Squall. Yeah, it's technically rSFF, but I'm talking about being close enough where intangibles make the difference. If it's not that close, it won't matter...but right now it still looks like it is.

I don't know what Auron would have to get to indirectly favor Auron over Squall though...I'll be impressed if Zero is beaten down worse than Aeris, but let's go a little past that and say 60% since Squall has the minor advantage over Auron through Aeris.
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Xuxon | Posted 3/1/2010 8:10:06 PM | message detail
46 seems like a good line to call Squall a lock.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/1/2010 8:18:16 PM | message detail
Who should win the morning vote? And are we really expecting Zero to lead the first few hours? No one called out the guy who gave Zero 52-53% percent early. Can Zero actually win this?
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:18:21 PM | message detail
Well, let's keep in mind that Luigi got 53.71% on Zero back in 2006, though Luigi may have been stronger then than he is now (though the same holds true for Zero!).
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CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:18 PM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #033
Who should win the morning vote? And are we really expecting Zero to lead the first few hours? No one called out the guy who gave Zero 52-53% percent early. Can Zero actually win this?


That was BT, the biggest Mega Man fanboy on the board, and someone that the stats topic has kinda gotten used to making outlandish comments regarding it. People just likely didn't bother since he was in his own little world thinking Zero was gonna win somehow.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:21 PM | message detail
Match XCI: (3) Auron vs. (6) Zero

Last Round

Auron – 57.64%
Aerith Gainsborough – 42.36%

Zero – 67.17%
Marcus Fenix – 32.83%

Analysis

I’m not sure why people are calling this an underperformance on Auron’s part when it is quite obvious that Final Fantasy VII is higher up on the hierarchy than Final Fantasy X. So he failed to SFF Aerith, big deal, SFF something doesn’t prove strength anyways. Not that it matters in this match anyways Zero has no chance at winning unless he decides to boost back to his 2003 levels and even then that might not even be enough.

While Zero is a decent character and could probably defeat most of the characters that have already reached the third round Auron is just on another level. On the other side while Auron performed as expected against Aerith as expected isn’t quite enough to make him the favourite against Squall. The match is still debatable, but he is still the underdog here unless he manages to look rather impressive against Zero.

Breaking 60% would probably be the breaking point on making the match at least even between the two characters. I don’t really see Zero being stronger than Aerith though the board seems to love Zero and thinks he can outperform her. Squall/Auron has to be one of the most lop-sided debated matches in a while, will the board get burned or will they triumph over the casuals?

charmander6000’s Bracket: Auron > Zero

charmander6000’s Prediction: Auron wins, 59.19% - 40.81%

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:49 PM | message detail
No one called out the guy who gave Zero 52-53% percent early.

BT having a much higher opinion of Megaman characters than everyone else is expected by now.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:21:05 PM | message detail
BT's account should have closed two years ago because Snake got 43-45% like I said in round 2 against Zero!
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:25:54 PM | message detail
To be fair to him, he didn't actually back out of a bet since no one bet against him, it was just a self-declared statement.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:27:18 PM | message detail
True, it was quite obvious that he said it more of a joke. It's happen to other people.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:08 PM | message detail
Don't make excuses for him!
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creativename | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:33 PM | message detail

From: CronoBrokeNobl9 | #155
That was BT, the biggest Mega Man fanboy on the board, and someone that the stats topic has kinda gotten used to making outlandish comments regarding it. People just likely didn't bother since he was in his own little world thinking Zero was gonna win somehow.


It's just so funny when Albion and Turtle try to diss each other :D Kinda cute, almost.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:46 PM | message detail
I have a hard time trusting that Luigi match because that puts Luigi above Sonic. Right now (and it actually happened in 2006) I would have put Luigi at 40% on Sonic. I have a very hard time believing that Zero has dropped 10% from 2003 to now, let alone 2003-2006. Sonic (maybe) and Mega Man are both looking better now than they did in 4-ways, meaning maybe the format hurt them in some way. I'm not calling the upset here, but I'm expecting 45-47% minimum and the upset would not surprise me in the slightest.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:32:38 PM | message detail
Don't make excuses for him!

It's true though, people take that one post out of context all the time.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:35:00 PM | message detail
BT was 407 votes and a round away from legitimately having to lose his account...damn you, Vivi, why could you have not beaten Zero?! Either way, Solid was 1,384 votes away from beating Mega Man and Zero combined.

Also, BT shouldn't joke like that around people who dislike him so much while making an account bet!
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:37:20 PM | message detail
Charmander's right though, and I'll give BT credit for winning our sig-bet over SSBB/SMG (what happened, SMG?). BT still deserves the hell given for that quote, however, and he's never once admitted he would have lost that bet since then if Vivi would have advanced instead of Zero so I don't mind continuing it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 8:40:19 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #042
It's just so funny when Albion and Turtle try to diss each other :D Kinda cute, almost.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWk6RgQbPVc
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:43:37 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:43:54 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #044
Don't make excuses for him!

It's true though, people take that one post out of context all the time.


Context? Who cares about context!

And making a sig bet with Galaxy > Brawl was never going to turn out well!
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medicority | Posted 3/1/2010 8:44:05 PM | message detail
I'm antsy, I hope zero doesn't get wiped out. Mega man has been getting some boosts from all these releases, and mega man 10 is on the way in less than 2 weeks!