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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 858
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 2:34:01 PM | message detail |
DownB DownB DownB DownB DownB GAME SET ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- "Spoil FFX for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if Jecht's going to be another Auron or another Sin." -Soul on PW vs Jecht |
Achromatic | Posted 3/1/2010 2:34:17 PM | message detail |
oh crap this was a 0 topic --- Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try. Sir Chris |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:56:28 PM | message detail |
lol awesome --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:56:50 PM | message detail |
As you wish. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:57:16 PM | message detail |
I was trying for that EXACT same 500 post. Nice one. --- "Final Fantasy XI is a bad game that no one should care about for any reason." -FFDragon |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 6:58:46 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 6:59:37 PM | message detail |
From: Fayt_Esteed | #006 XDDDDDDDDD yes --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ You can't hide forever! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/1/2010 6:59:43 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb8/cb8-91.jpg LET'S ROCK --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
creativename | Posted 3/1/2010 7:13:33 PM | message detail |
0 topic? Huh? I imagine this is as good of an idea of how it's going to go as any: Time | Mega Man | ZackFAQs | Votes 0:05 | 64.45% | 35.55% | 1336 1:00 | 64.59% | 35.41% | 9748 2:00 | 63.94% | 36.06% | 5990 3:00 | 62.21% | 37.79% | 4364 4:00 | 59.50% | 40.50% | 3237 5:00 | 57.08% | 42.92% | 2635 6:00 | 56.22% | 43.78% | 2510 7:00 | 57.52% | 42.48% | 3140 8:00 | 59.50% | 40.50% | 3664 9:00 | 61.35% | 38.65% | 4098 10:00 | 62.47% | 37.53% | 4325 11:00 | 62.37% | 37.63% | 4507 12:00 | 62.54% | 37.46% | 4173 Ah yes, good call. Auron should do a bit better at the start and morning than Zack so the trends shouldn't be as emphatic. The Aeris match showed Auron's overnight trends aren't as extreme as the FF7 supporting cast. But yeah, Zero will be hurting during the dead hours. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/1/2010 7:16:30 PM | message detail |
From: ZenOfThunder | #008 What a great pic! I'm impressed with Shepard here. Going from 35% on Magus to 39% on Pikachu is a pretty big jump. Would that be enough to actually beat Magus now? I don't trust that guy anymore, so I'd take the Commander, but not with much confidence. --- This is good...isn't it? - Big motha****ing Boss |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:17:37 PM | message detail |
We know the rat is stronger than Alucard, and not by a trivial amount either, so, yeah, Shepard probably beats Magus. Seems everyone beats Magus these days. --- Mustache...and Green... |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:17:47 PM | message detail |
Fenix
says Zero gets 44.18% on Auron...so the better Auron does than that,
the better he looks against Squall. I don't think Zero will get THAT
high, but he should outdo Aeris. His new fighting game can't hurt him,
either. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:18:51 PM | message detail |
Aerith
actually did quite a bit better overnight than Auron did. Auron rocked
her with the morning vote about as badly as he did the first two hours
of the poll. Would that be enough to actually beat Magus now? I don't trust that guy anymore, so I'd take the Commander, but not with much confidence. Pikachu vs. Alucard: Who wins and by how much? --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:19:36 PM | message detail |
Fenix says Zero gets 44.18% on Auron. I don't think comparing 2007 Fenix to 2010 Fenix is the best idea. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:21:06 PM | message detail |
Pikachu 55-45 or thereabouts. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 7:21:16 PM | message detail |
If zero just breaks 40% its impressive, but with megaman seemingly tearing FF down, you never know, zero might impress. --- Shakes Fist! |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:29:29 PM | message detail |
I was using 2008-Fenix. Besides, even if it was 2007-Fenix, that would have been against Auron-with-Cloud. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:31:09 PM | message detail |
Oh right, totally forgot Fenix faced Auron in 2007 and 2008. Hmmm...I dunno what to think of Gears of War though. It seems to get weaker every time we see it. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:32:05 PM | message detail |
Which means Zero looks worse! --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:34:44 PM | message detail |
44% would have been if Fenix didn't drop since 2008. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/1/2010 7:34:49 PM | message detail |
2008 and this year are probably closer to Fenix's static strength. 2007 was a combination of GeoW 2 and GAME FUEL runoff. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:36:27 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #019 Which is possible. Auron with 60% wouldn't really surprise me here, honestly. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:37:00 PM | message detail |
It's
kinda funny how despite being his strongest in 2007 and having Cloud in
the poll, Fenix still fell shy of 40% on Auron. Maybe Last Place Factor
came into play there, but it's still pretty lame! --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 7:38:36 PM | message detail |
Hmmm...I dunno what to think of Gears of War though. It seems to get weaker every time we see it. Or maybe... If you ask me, it was never really that strong to begin with. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 7:44:43 PM | message detail |
Eh,
I think Auron will do better than 56%, but I'll be impressed if he
beats him worse than Aeris. Then again though, Auron only did just
enough against Aeris to show he can keep competitive with Squall, so it
might say more about Zero than Auron. I'd rather compare Auron/Squall through Zero and Akuma, but there's not a good way to judge Akuma and Zero got his first big game in awhile so I don't know how accurate we can really be. Aeris would be a better comparison between them if Squall's match with her wasn't a four-way, and Terra/Squall's a SFF-match where we don't exactly know how much SFF is supposed to happen...so I don't think anybody's opinions are really going to change this round unless something extreme happens (and I'm sure most people will think Squall's beat-down on Terra is extreme, what-ev). --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:46:44 PM | message detail |
Hey guys, this is Albion. My new account since MyWorldisCrono and Lightslayer were banned, lol. My thoughts on this match: I think this is pretty impressive from Shepard. I don't think Pikachu is anywhere near as anti voted as he once was. You don't get 75% or whatever he got against Banjo if you're anti voted, so I think this is a pretty good performance that cements Shepards place as a regular character in these contests, I think. He seems like a legit low midcarder, and has plenty of potential to rise even more from that. He is without a doubt the strongest Bioware character now. Also, I think that Zero is going to have a good show tonight. I'm thinking about 45%... I'd never take Aerith over Zero, afterall. Plus he should have a better first 4 hours than Auron will (but Auron will crush him before the morning vote hits). I think this match will expose Auron as not having a legit chance against Squall. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_500x_ff_13_x3.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 7:48:20 PM | message detail |
Speaking of which, how high would Zero have to get before you'd rule out Auron beating Squall? 50.01%? --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 3/1/2010 7:48:20 PM | message detail |
Couldn't stay banned, eh? --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/1/2010 7:49:24 PM | message detail |
I
think Zero is going to disappoint relative to some of the expectations
here. He should have no trouble outdoing Aeris, and he'll probably be
around 52-53% for the first few hours, but that lame Europe vote is
like cryptonite to Mega Man characters. Proto Man may have outdone Fox
if he had a day match against Snake. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
eaglesarebeasts | Posted 3/1/2010 7:49:48 PM | message detail |
With
how good Megaman's doing, and with how strong Zero used to be, I'm
expecting this one to be alot closer than most think. Maybe 54-46 |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:04:33 PM | message detail |
If
Zero breaks, say, 46% on Zero and Squall kicks ass as usual against
Terra, I'd give up hope on the upset...but I'm not so worried about
that; as long as they're close, it's a fanbase-battle within Square and
that's what I'm counting on. It's hard to expect Auron to statistically
look like the favorite against Squall. Yeah, it's technically rSFF, but
I'm talking about being close enough where intangibles make the
difference. If it's not that close, it won't matter...but right now it
still looks like it is. I don't know what Auron would have to get to indirectly favor Auron over Squall though...I'll be impressed if Zero is beaten down worse than Aeris, but let's go a little past that and say 60% since Squall has the minor advantage over Auron through Aeris. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Xuxon | Posted 3/1/2010 8:10:06 PM | message detail |
46 seems like a good line to call Squall a lock. --- ------ --------- |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/1/2010 8:18:16 PM | message detail |
Who
should win the morning vote? And are we really expecting Zero to lead
the first few hours? No one called out the guy who gave Zero 52-53%
percent early. Can Zero actually win this? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:18:21 PM | message detail |
Well,
let's keep in mind that Luigi got 53.71% on Zero back in 2006, though
Luigi may have been stronger then than he is now (though the same holds
true for Zero!). --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
CronoBrokeNobl9 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:18 PM | message detail |
From: TheOneAboveAll | #033 That was BT, the biggest Mega Man fanboy on the board, and someone that the stats topic has kinda gotten used to making outlandish comments regarding it. People just likely didn't bother since he was in his own little world thinking Zero was gonna win somehow. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_500x_ff_13_x3.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:21 PM | message detail |
Match XCI: (3) Auron vs. (6) Zero Last Round Auron – 57.64% Aerith Gainsborough – 42.36% Zero – 67.17% Marcus Fenix – 32.83% Analysis I’m not sure why people are calling this an underperformance on Auron’s part when it is quite obvious that Final Fantasy VII is higher up on the hierarchy than Final Fantasy X. So he failed to SFF Aerith, big deal, SFF something doesn’t prove strength anyways. Not that it matters in this match anyways Zero has no chance at winning unless he decides to boost back to his 2003 levels and even then that might not even be enough. While Zero is a decent character and could probably defeat most of the characters that have already reached the third round Auron is just on another level. On the other side while Auron performed as expected against Aerith as expected isn’t quite enough to make him the favourite against Squall. The match is still debatable, but he is still the underdog here unless he manages to look rather impressive against Zero. Breaking 60% would probably be the breaking point on making the match at least even between the two characters. I don’t really see Zero being stronger than Aerith though the board seems to love Zero and thinks he can outperform her. Squall/Auron has to be one of the most lop-sided debated matches in a while, will the board get burned or will they triumph over the casuals? charmander6000’s Bracket: Auron > Zero charmander6000’s Prediction: Auron wins, 59.19% - 40.81% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:19:49 PM | message detail |
No one called out the guy who gave Zero 52-53% percent early. BT having a much higher opinion of Megaman characters than everyone else is expected by now. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:21:05 PM | message detail |
BT's account should have closed two years ago because Snake got 43-45% like I said in round 2 against Zero! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
red sox 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:25:54 PM | message detail |
To be fair to him, he didn't actually back out of a bet since no one bet against him, it was just a self-declared statement. --- Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:27:18 PM | message detail |
True, it was quite obvious that he said it more of a joke. It's happen to other people. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:08 PM | message detail |
Don't make excuses for him! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
creativename | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:33 PM | message detail |
From: CronoBrokeNobl9 | #155 It's just so funny when Albion and Turtle try to diss each other :D Kinda cute, almost. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:46 PM | message detail |
I
have a hard time trusting that Luigi match because that puts Luigi
above Sonic. Right now (and it actually happened in 2006) I would have
put Luigi at 40% on Sonic. I have a very hard time believing that Zero
has dropped 10% from 2003 to now, let alone 2003-2006. Sonic (maybe)
and Mega Man are both looking better now than they did in 4-ways,
meaning maybe the format hurt them in some way. I'm not calling the
upset here, but I'm expecting 45-47% minimum and the upset would not
surprise me in the slightest. |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:32:38 PM | message detail |
Don't make excuses for him! It's true though, people take that one post out of context all the time. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 89/112 - Today's Winners: Solid Snake and Pikachu |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:35:00 PM | message detail |
BT
was 407 votes and a round away from legitimately having to lose his
account...damn you, Vivi, why could you have not beaten Zero?! Either
way, Solid was 1,384 votes away from beating Mega Man and Zero combined. Also, BT shouldn't joke like that around people who dislike him so much while making an account bet! --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:37:20 PM | message detail |
Charmander's
right though, and I'll give BT credit for winning our sig-bet over
SSBB/SMG (what happened, SMG?). BT still deserves the hell given for
that quote, however, and he's never once admitted he would have lost
that bet since then if Vivi would have advanced instead of Zero so I
don't mind continuing it. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/1/2010 8:40:19 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #042 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWk6RgQbPVc --- ¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸ How does it feel when all you're counting on is scatterbrained? |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/1/2010 8:43:37 PM | message detail |
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/176597 Legit clip instead of rock screaming at you...! --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:43:54 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #044 Context? Who cares about context! And making a sig bet with Galaxy > Brawl was never going to turn out well! --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
medicority | Posted 3/1/2010 8:44:05 PM | message detail |
I'm
antsy, I hope zero doesn't get wiped out. Mega man has been getting
some boosts from all these releases, and mega man 10 is on the way in
less than 2 weeks! |