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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 857

paulg235 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:10:20 AM | message detail
Rikku > Pig Ganon

An upset in which if it doesn't occur, Ganon will laugh at you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxARm_QiCo

In fact, we can use that if Sonic DOES lose to Ganon.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/1/2010 6:11:54 AM | message detail
In seriousness, if Kirby was a rSFF beast he would have pulled it out against Luigi (who actually beat him slightly worse than Bowser did, one of our first indicators that he was ahead on the pecking order). If Luigi was even better at SFF than Kirbs, then why did he get demolished by Sonic in the very next round?

Kirby needs STRENGTH to beat Sonic, or else he's ending up like another Luigi. All indicators point to the fact that the puffball just can't cut it without a bandwagon.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:12:44 AM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #050
I still think Kirby's the favourite. Auron and Kratos haven't exactly impressed, either if you were to use that logic.

Kirby will likely get around the same on Vivi as he did on Rikku. Sonic's performances thus far are questionable, and Ganondorf relies on Ken still being almost as strong as he was in 2002/3, as well as Mewtwo having a fluke year in 2008.

Sonic will likely defeat Ganon by around 1000-4000 votes, and then lose to Kirby by 2000-6000 votes.

Kirby's a rSFF beast. He's proven this in the past against Buffed Bowser in 2005, and we all talk about how Sonic's now nintendo, so why not assume that helped Kirby win along with bandwagoning?


The problem with that is the fact that the Dream Division was a complete and total fluke.


Not if Bowser wins his division, of course! If he can do that, Kirby winning his division, and Sub does well against Samus to make Tidus look good (and provided Ryu doesn't choke against Leon), the Dream division becomes legit again.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:13:14 AM | message detail
Ganon loses to Rikku you heard it here folks

Ganon needs to lose to someone from FFX! He's beaten everyone else and this cannot be tolerated!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/1/2010 6:13:48 AM | message detail
Man even if each individual character from Dream looks good now, that happened five years ago man. It's still a fluke.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:14:04 AM | message detail
the Dream division becomes legit again.

Bowser/Snake prevents the Dream Division from ever being "legit."
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/1/2010 6:15:20 AM | message detail
Ganon needs to lose to someone from FFX! He's beaten everyone else and this cannot be tolerated!

Auron should be the easy favorite over him now, right? (not that most people think he'd win easily, but that the majority would side with him a la Dante > Ryu

yes I know that's a bad example just bear with me)
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:15:30 AM | message detail
I thought Sonic would win the division for sure?Plus why all 2 seeds did so bad this year?I mean only Squall will advance to round 3 and he might even lose there.I don't get it...
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/1/2010 6:16:13 AM | message detail
I was only talking about characters in Kirby's division, not characters in Kirby's bottom quarter of the bracket.

Seriously though, I'm glad that I didn't pick Kirby > Sonic in my bracket like I originally did. Then again, I originally had Charizard > Kratos and Ryu > Dante before switching them around...
Karma Hunter | Posted 3/1/2010 6:17:54 AM | message detail
And it's good to see that Snake beasted overnight and will hold on the doubling or something close to it, it seems. That's two rounds in a row now where Snake has been humiliated by an early vote and pushed back to a good level by the time the match ended. Here's hoping he can get the best of both worlds when it counts...!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:20:25 AM | message detail
Auron should be the easy favorite over him now, right?

Probably. I'd pick Auron over Ganondorf, but then again, I'd pick anyone who has a legitimate shot to beat him to win.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 6:21:29 AM | message detail
Not if Bowser wins his division, of course! If he can do that, Kirby winning his division, and Sub does well against Samus to make Tidus look good (and provided Ryu doesn't choke against Leon), the Dream division becomes legit again.

Predictable response. Keep dreaming.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:21:36 AM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #058
I thought Sonic would win the division for sure?Plus why all 2 seeds did so bad this year?I mean only Squall will advance to round 3 and he might even lose there.I don't get it...


Sonic's failures in the four-ways have made many people (self in cluded) doubt his strength. Auron won by a hefty amount, and amount which gives some room for Ganon/Kirby to have a chance at upsetting Sonic.

Most of the 2 seeds this year were overseeded, it seems. Drake's certainly not a 2 seed, and The Boss proved it. Altair and Ezio didn't do that bad, IMO. We don't know where Charizard lies, but Kratos underperformed against Tails. Dante did respectable, and Ryu's always underseeded in these things. Gordon looked awful against Peach, and MC is MC.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:22:05 AM | message detail
Keep dreaming.

Oh ho ho, I get it!
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 6:22:35 AM | message detail
I still remember the days when Kirby was weaker than Alucard, man those were the days.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 6:23:52 AM | message detail
We knew most of the 2 seeds were overrated when the bracket was released though. Only Squall, Dante, and Kratos were favorites to make it past round two, and there were reasonable arguments to be made for Dante and Kratos losing in round two as well. Squall was the only 2 seed guaranteed to make it past round two just because he was in a fourpack with three other characters who are nowhere near his level of strength (LOL Revan).

But then again, Squall would make the third round in any position in this bracket as a 2 seed anyway, so that's a moot point.
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 6:25:33 AM | message detail
heck, put squall in the heart division he cleans house, shove him in the Chaoes division and now we got something cool to work with.
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paulg235 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:25:43 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #066
Squall would make the third round in any position in this bracket as a 2 seed anyway


Tifa > Squall train CHOO CHOO
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:26:54 AM | message detail
Overrated and overseeded?Now that is something!But you are right.Hope next time things are more logical.
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 6:28:00 AM | message detail
it's certainly possible, people argue Squall is now stronger than vincent.
The Vincent/Tifa/Squall Trio is very tight, though add in Auron and it still looks like a tough 4 pack.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:29:56 AM | message detail
So Squall vs Auron,Squall is the favorite right?And what is expected to end,like 55% for Squall?
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paulg235 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:32:15 AM | message detail
Depends on how their R2 matches go. Squall's easily the favourite. Auron needs to impress against Zero to put him back in the match as well as Squall looking bad against Terra.
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 6:34:00 AM | message detail
Auron/Squall the new Ryu/Dante.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:34:34 AM | message detail
Well I just want to have 3 perfect divisions and if all goes right,that will become.Of course there is Kirby vs Sonic...
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:37:16 AM | message detail
Match XC: (5) Pikachu vs. (4) Commander Shepard

Last Round

Pikachu – 75.09%
Banjo – 24.91%

Commander Shepard – 75.79%
Ellis – 24.21%

Analysis

I’m sure that I wasn’t the only one surprised at the amount of a beating Ellis received last round. While it is quite likely that Ellis is one of the weakest entrants in this contest I think it is safe to say that Mass Effect 2 provided the guy with at least some kind of a boost. How much will be seen in this match where Pikachu proved that his anti-votes are a thing of the past.

In the previous contest while Shepard was reduced to the role of fodder at least he was decent fodder so even without Mass Effect 2 Shepard would outperform the likes of Banjo and crew. With Mass Effect 2 being so recent and still talked about I still expect Shepard to be at around his peak strength like he was against Ellis. If you compare the hype to Master Chief and Halo 3 Shepard would still lose to Pikachu, but he would have made Pikachu nervous at least. However since the hype for Mass Effect 2 isn’t the same as Halo 3 on GameFAQs Pikachu should have an easier time winning.

While tripling someone is impressive there are cases where sometimes the opponent is really just that weak, just take a look at Weighted Companion Cube. Pikachu should push for 60% and could even reach the mid 60s if I’ve overestimated the boost Shepard got from Mass Effect 2.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Pikachu > Ellis

charmander6000’s Prediction: Pikachu wins, 62.27% - 37.73%

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:43:05 AM | message detail
Isn't this a night match in USA?Doesn't that mean that Pika will not have full strength?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/1/2010 6:49:19 AM | message detail
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 3/1/2010 6:49:27 AM | message detail
No, it will be a day match.

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Denzokuken | Posted 3/1/2010 7:06:47 AM | message detail
lol @ snake > sephiroth
EternalxCourage | Posted 3/1/2010 7:30:04 AM | message detail
Why are people even debating Kirby > Sonic. Like I get it, you guys didn't like his four-way performances and I hate to pull an Ulti, but it's ****ing Sonic. Seriously get your heads out of your anal cavities.

That said Sonic is going to breeze to his destruction at the hands of Link, and by the looks of things this year he might even post respectable numbers on him. Kratos didn't underperform against Tails (as Kratos had a good match against Charizard, and Charizard has a good shot at the whole division).

I still don't see where people are thinking the Sonic team has dropped. It's seriously lol fourways here because they completely skewed your view of Sonic. Oh well, it's just going to break whoever's brackets have Sonic losing before Link.

Also it's definitely an artificially debated match, because never at any point this contest do Kirby or Ganondorf have a shot at beating Sonic. They will never be in the matches.
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ShepardPunch | Posted 3/1/2010 7:30:22 AM | message detail
I would love to punch me some rat.
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 7:31:40 AM | message detail
Shepardpunch?Now that is a cool username!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/1/2010 7:31:58 AM | message detail
Also, now that I think about it, Squall vs. Auron is just another wishfully close match. There's no chance that Auron has a shot in that match at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was 55 - 45 or more. Auron vs. Ganondorf would probably go in Ganondorf's favor.
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Haguile | Posted 3/1/2010 7:40:29 AM | message detail
Question, about pics, technically the cd-i games are official right? So can we try to give link a cd-i picture?
Hypothetically, if Link got the cd-i picture, how much would that affect him?
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/1/2010 8:01:30 AM | message detail
So I remade most of my match pictures with the CORRECT dimensions this time. -_-

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I've also made some brand-new ones in honor of the two recent upsets.

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Ryu's Version 2 is the funny one. >_>

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alblito | Posted 3/1/2010 8:03:35 AM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #360
Why are people even debating Kirby > Sonic. Like I get it, you guys didn't like his four-way performances and I hate to pull an Ulti, but it's ****ing Sonic. Seriously get your heads out of your anal cavities.

That said Sonic is going to breeze to his destruction at the hands of Link, and by the looks of things this year he might even post respectable numbers on him. Kratos didn't underperform against Tails (as Kratos had a good match against Charizard, and Charizard has a good shot at the whole division).

I still don't see where people are thinking the Sonic team has dropped. It's seriously lol fourways here because they completely skewed your view of Sonic. Oh well, it's just going to break whoever's brackets have Sonic losing before Link.

Also it's definitely an artificially debated match, because never at any point this contest do Kirby or Ganondorf have a shot at beating Sonic. They will never be in the matches.


Vincent beat Ganon 52-48 in 2006. Next match Vincent loses 52-48 to Sonic. that means Sonic with 53-54%.

In fact Ganon has always been close behind Sonic (apart from 2005). If there was even a small drop by Sonic, Ganon would be a good upset pick. As far as I'm concerned he is the underdog for against Sonic, but I still picked him, just in case it did happen.

I agree on the Kirby part though. The winner of Sonic/Ganon wins the division I feel.

From: Haguile | #404
Question, about pics, technically the cd-i games are official right? So can we try to give link a cd-i picture?
Hypothetically, if Link got the cd-i picture, how much would that affect him?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3308

That much I'd say!


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Gooper Blooper | Posted 3/1/2010 8:07:39 AM | message detail
Question, about pics, technically the cd-i games are official right? So can we try to give link a cd-i picture?
Hypothetically, if Link got the cd-i picture, how much would that affect him?

I'm contemplating a CD-i Link vs. Weegee picture for Round 4.

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 3/1/2010 8:17:04 AM | message detail
CD-i Link vs Weegee?Now that would be awesome!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 3/1/2010 8:25:32 AM | message detail
It would imply Sonic with 54%. But there's more reason for Ganondorf to drop than for Sonic to drop tbqh.

The reality, however, is that not only is Ganondorf simply weaker, but he's also going to most likely have his pig sprite. I'm predicting probably around 58% for Sonic.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:28:16 AM | message detail
Looks like Fox is barely gonna do better on Snake than he did on Lloyd. This is actually about what my stats predicted. They had Snake winning with 66.68% here. Fox would undoubtedly do better if he had the benefit of a full 24 hour match. Star Fox's night vote is seriously one of the worst around.
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 8:30:30 AM | message detail
We need Star For Wii already with peripheral, 20 million game sales later and Fox vs Bowser becomes debatable.
But seriously, why is star fox treated like dirt?
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azuarc | Posted 3/1/2010 8:33:48 AM | message detail
I don't usually follow these threads, but it doesn't seem like much contest discussion happens out of them, so here goes...

I had found it uncanny that all the 2 seeds were losing. Yes, many of them are over-seeded, but they're still #2 seeds, and renowned characters (or flash-in-the-pan like Ezio and Drake.) Is Squall really the only one that people thought were going to go past round 2? And does Freeman have a chance at being the other 2 seed that stays in the tournament against Tifa, or am I pipe-dreaming? I mean, it's only the second time he's won a 1v1 match-up, so convincing or not, that has to bode well for him, right?


The irony is that I had originally thought to come in here with a theory about how the first character listed seems to be winning up and down the bracket, but it occurred to me that it's actually a matter of all the 2 seeds sucking. 1 beats 8/9 no problem, and all the 3 seeds (or 14 seeds) have won their match-ups so far, so the only "upsets" to the top-winner theory have come in the 4-5-12-13 quads, and actually only one 5-12 winner, Ganondorf, has moved to round 3 so far. Is this significant? I've got NFC, but by that argument, it seems Shepard should beat Pikachu and Missingno should beat Yoshi. =p
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/1/2010 8:34:30 AM | message detail
Kirby isn't beating Sonic.

VIVI IS, BOOK IT

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/1/2010 8:35:12 AM | message detail
Excellent rebound for Snake after an awful board vote. Assuming Snake = Seph, Fox would be expected to get 57.5% on Marth before SFF.

Sounds plausible to me!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:36:59 AM | message detail
And does Freeman have a chance at being the other 2 seed that stays in the tournament against Tifa, or am I pipe-dreaming?

Gordon got 53% on Peach last round.

Tifa got 66% on her back in 2006. You can LOL the female bracket all you want, and some of it is warranted, but it's not an overperformance to the degree that Gordon needs in order to have a chance at winning.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/1/2010 8:39:21 AM | message detail
The two seeds were all vastly overseeded for various reasons. Drake was overseeded because of Uncharted 2 coming out so soon before nominations. Altair and Ezio for the same reason with Assassin's Creed 2. Dante deserved his 2 seed, but Ryu also deserved a 2 seed as well. Gordon just won GameSpot's contest so he most likely got a boost in nominations because of that (no, he doesn't have a shot against Tifa). Master Chief is casual bait. He gets nominations like crazy but he isn't as strong as his seeds show.

Squall is in the top 10 in character strength, so he definitely deserves one. Dante does as well. Kratos is decently strong so him getting another 2 seed isn't too bad (again, Charizard was just stronger). Auron, Vincent, Sonic, Ganondorf, Zelda, Sora, they deserve two seeds as well (and maybe one seeds too).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/1/2010 8:39:21 AM | message detail
And based on Squall's match with Fox in 2008, Snake/Squall is projected to go 56.82% for Snake. He got 57.59% in 2006. Doesn't seem like much has changed there.

UNLESS we assume the Smilin' Squall pic was worth about 5% or so, plus the fact that Square LFF is worse than Nintendo LFF, and I think we have ourselves a projected victory for Squall!
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voltch | Posted 3/1/2010 8:44:18 AM | message detail
Smilin' Squall more lethal than Solid ****
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/1/2010 8:45:55 AM | message detail
And does Freeman have a chance at being the other 2 seed that stays in the tournament against Tifa, or am I pipe-dreaming?

No. You're pipe-dreaming.
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