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Contest Stats and Hockey Discussion - Part 856
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/28/2010 1:40:03 PM | message detail |
I
really don't care how early it is or that the game will be over by the
time we get to this, but by golly, hockey has EARNED itself a stats
topic. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
VeiNZ | Posted 2/28/2010 1:40:41 PM | message detail |
sweet --- Geech |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/28/2010 2:36:34 PM | message detail |
U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/28/2010 2:37:49 PM | message detail |
haha oh lord --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
jck4332 | Posted 2/28/2010 2:39:03 PM | message detail |
Hockey sucks. --- ... http://myanimelist.net/profile/jck4332 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/28/2010 2:40:11 PM | message detail |
YOU suck. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
Ayuyu | Posted 2/28/2010 2:41:06 PM | message detail |
Hockey is just another medal opportunity, nothing more. --- No, I'm not Ayvuir. |
jck4332 | Posted 2/28/2010 2:42:31 PM | message detail |
YOU suck. http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/commaLamma/NO_U.jpg --- ... http://myanimelist.net/profile/jck4332 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/28/2010 2:42:52 PM | message detail |
USA IS FIGHTING FOR DANTE THE AMERICAN WAY APPLE PIE --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Ayuyu | Posted 2/28/2010 2:43:20 PM | message detail |
Lol Dante :( --- No, I'm not Ayvuir. |
Ayuyu | Posted 2/28/2010 2:53:32 PM | message detail |
WIN! --- No, I'm not Ayvuir. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/28/2010 4:00:43 PM | message detail |
This one is better. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:22:20 PM | message detail |
Magus and Kefka's most laughable chokes were in 4-ways though! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:23:14 PM | message detail |
Everyone jumping off the Dante in debatable matches train means he's going to win one next year. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/28/2010 4:23:41 PM | message detail |
Tag --- Elephant Talk: A New Kind Of Music Blog! http://elephantmusictalk.blogspot.com/ |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/28/2010 4:24:12 PM | message detail |
Meh. There's no evidence whatsoever this picture actually hurts him. No offense, creativename, but I agree with KH. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/28/2010 4:24:18 PM | message detail |
The real person who's screwed in this is Leon. This is what, the 4th year he's gonna run into a fellow Capcom badass? --- This is good...isn't it? - Big motha****ing Boss |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:24:39 PM | message detail |
So many years in these contests and STILL I don't have a damn clue how they work.I will never learn... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/28/2010 4:24:54 PM | message detail |
Sorry, I never saw this topic. Closing mine for the AWESOME HOCKEY FACTOR'D. --- MUSIC CAN BE OBJECTIVELY DEFINED AND ITS QUALITY EMPIRICALLY MEASURED BY THE INEQUALITY [WHAT I LIKE > WHAT YOU LIKE]. -Jaraqua Lefty Jones |
Articuno2001 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:25:15 PM | message detail |
best stats topix --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 99/108 in Character Battle 2010 | Current Pick: Dante |
Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2010 4:25:22 PM | message detail |
Huh? People blasted on Solid **** from the start. That basically insta-proved pic factor to everybody. Selective contest memory, I see. I can think of a few stat topic regulars from the start (Chichiri, HM off the top of my head - the former especially) that argued pics didn't matter *specifically* against Solid ****. Again, for years. It took until seeing Bowser in 2k6 for a consensus to actually be built. Trust me. I would remember this. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/28/2010 4:25:54 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | #014 Perhaps, but I'll be very shy about backing him in anything debatable. I don't think he's got anything on the horizon, while many of those around him do. Ryu's got SSFIV, and all of the Nintendo guys might be in for a big year (Galaxy 2, Other M, Zelda Wii, and the new Pokemon unveiling could make another very strong Nintendo year). If Kingdom Hearts III is unveiled in the next 12 months, I'll probably take Sora over him as well. --- Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
creativename | Posted 2/28/2010 4:26:28 PM | message detail |
Hmm...no quote button in gamefox for closed topics. Makes sense, but I'd use it and then copy&paste. No. Vincent was never going to lose that match, or the one preceding it. Well yeah, obviously, the Kerrigan debate was beyond absurdly. The Kerrigan backers dragged this topic through some of its darkest days, sheesh! Still boggles my mind. I guess they were still stuck on Starcraft-Halo. But you can't say "Vincent was never going to lost that match" - I mean, obviously he wasn't actually going to lose, but pre-contest you had to say there was somewhat of a chance. Dante was no Kerrigan. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LOLContests | Posted 2/28/2010 4:26:40 PM | message detail |
People are comparing this to Solid ****? .......What. Seriously. I've never played DMC2, but I was certainly around when it was released, and it was regarded as a mediocre, disappointing sequel, not the abomination people are making it out to be. It's no Sonic 2006 people! --- "It's a bloody convention out there! "--Captain MacMillan Yesmar |
RPGuy96 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:26:46 PM | message detail |
Dante
didn't really deserve to be the huge favorite that he was before the
match, anyway. Nothing that he's done over the last two years was
beyond Ryu's capabilities. (Lest you think this is revisionist history I posted something to this effect 10 minutes before the match.) --- Mustache...and Green... |
FFDragon | Posted 2/28/2010 4:27:11 PM | message detail |
There's a distinct difference in a blob of pixels from the eighties and a boxart pic from the double Os. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2010 4:27:52 PM | message detail |
I'm
not comparing this to the extent of Solid **** (Dante is certainly not
underperforming massively here). But in margins as close as this, it
could easily make the difference. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
creativename | Posted 2/28/2010 4:28:54 PM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #101 No. A couple people saying something does not mean the very clear consensus was in favor of Solid **** having a huge effect. And comparing this to Solid **** in the first place is madness. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/28/2010 4:29:57 PM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | #024 YES IT IS. --- There are two types of people: Those who love Portal, and those who haven't played it yet. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/28/2010 4:31:20 PM | message detail |
No, DMC2 is really, REALLY bad. Worst 20 bucks I've ever spent. --- Currently NOT on the CBVIII Leaderboard v_v Dante > Cloud: ITS NOT HAPPENING |
creativename | Posted 2/28/2010 4:31:21 PM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #107 In margins in close as this, for all we know Ryu's pic is holding him back. It's not like Ryu's pic is super-special-badass. There's equal evidence to believe Ryu is being hurt asymmetrically, as there is to believe Dante is. Using pic as an excuse for Dante just makes Dante look sorrier, honestly. Why? It doesn't make sense. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 2/28/2010 4:32:23 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #108 Whoops - that should be "very clear consensus was *not* in favor..." --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2010 4:34:01 PM | message detail |
I
never argued there was a consensus! There wasn't one way or the other -
that was the entire point. Any other opinion is revisionist history. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/28/2010 4:34:26 PM | message detail |
I've
been a proponent of Pic Factor for years. I don't think most voters are
as maniacally hardcore and nerdy about this stuff as we are; they don't
have super special <3 tiers and they don't write paragraphs ranking
their favorite characters and trying to justify why #3 on the list is
just thaaaaaat much better than #7. A good or bad picture can
easily affect the percentages. Heck, I think that if Peach had gotten
an ugly pic while Gordon grabbed HL2 box art, he could have hit 55%. The problem is, for this specific instance, Dante just doesn't look that bad. He looks freakin' badass! Didn't Zack tear Yuna in half with a dark and brooding picture like that? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/28/2010 4:34:41 PM | message detail |
Ryu is now leading? Damn. I'm now 1/6 in debatable matches in round 2. Great. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 17th Today's prediction: Dante - 52.17% Status: crap |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:35:56 PM | message detail |
I'm now 1/6 in debatable matches in round 2. Better than being 0/6! --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/28/2010 4:36:39 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #033 Thats what I'm saying. Its cool, but not not in the DMC3/4 kind of cool. Instead of the smiling, corny jokester you got the brooding badass. Its not THAT bad of a picture really. --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/28/2010 4:36:40 PM | message detail |
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:06 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | #035 Right, forgot to ask Kleenex. Who do you have winning Big Daddy/Ness? --- Currently NOT on the CBVIII Leaderboard v_v Dante > Cloud: ITS NOT HAPPENING |
ansem120 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:18 PM | message detail |
Did Dante just make 2 cuts? --- Smack, Smack, Sugar Smack. Gimme a Smack and I'll Smack you Back. |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:33 PM | message detail |
Canada is too busy celebrating --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 85/108 - Today's Winners: Leon and Ryu |
Achromatic | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:39 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #038 BT calling other people dumb is rich. --- Dragon Quest V is awesome Sir Chris |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:43 PM | message detail |
Sound the alarms. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZackFAQs | Posted 2/28/2010 4:37:52 PM | message detail |
A little late, but... Ugh, yes. The Dante people were insufferable. Kerrigan backer residue, I suppose, or something. No offense, but the Vincent supporters were just as bad, if not worse. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/28/2010 4:38:08 PM | message detail |
he's gonna need bigger cuts than that to survive Ryu's upcoming evening vote --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 17th Today's prediction: Dante - 52.17% Status: Crap |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:38:47 PM | message detail |
Time to ride some rockets and drive motorcycles up towers and **** --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
LOLContests | Posted 2/28/2010 4:38:56 PM | message detail |
Wasn't
this the same topic that acted like FFIV getting box art was some
horrible disadvantage, because no one cares about that, but now all of
a sudden it's obvious that's what the pic is from? Not that that matters since no one has said how Dante's physical character design has to do with how the game is bad. Would Sonic undeperform with a Sonic 2006 pic or would Fox underperform with a SFA pic? --- "It's a bloody convention out there! "--Captain MacMillan Yesmar |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/28/2010 4:38:59 PM | message detail |
Yeah the Vincent supporters saying that Vincent would get 60% were crazy. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 85/108 - Today's Winners: Leon and Ryu |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/28/2010 4:40:01 PM | message detail |
Oh, and the idea of the Pic Factor being legit or not was debated in this topic for years. There was never a consensus on that matter. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LOLContests | Posted 2/28/2010 4:40:03 PM | message detail |
Yeah, claiming that the *Vincent* backers were the put upon posters is just revisionist history to an enormous degree. --- "It's a bloody convention out there! "--Captain MacMillan Yesmar |