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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, Missingno etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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There's no point in hiding!

FALCON KIIICK
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Contest bracket status: ELIMINATED

Show me your BOOBS!!
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WE ARE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRtuum-xng
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

Chart from the night match:

Time | Cloud | Chris R. | Votes
0:05 | 66.19% | 33.81% | 1183
1:00 | 68.50% | 31.50% | 9581
2:00 | 71.13% | 28.87% | 6460
3:00 | 71.61% | 28.39% | 4819
4:00 | 71.90% | 28.10% | 3811
5:00 | 71.87% | 28.13% | 3160
6:00 | 72.75% | 27.25% | 2870
7:00 | 73.01% | 26.99% | 2779
8:00 | 74.64% | 25.36% | 3277
9:00 | 74.79% | 25.21% | 3978
10:00 | 74.01% | 25.99% | 4724
11:00 | 72.53% | 27.47% | 5556
12:00 | 72.73% | 27.27% | 5548

What a performance by Cloud! He even comes near to tripling Chris in a couple of hours. Perhaps the most impressive thing about this match: Cloud finished every hour at a higher percentage than he began it. It's like the FFVII of old! Just one continuous climb!
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From: LeonhartFour | #004
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRtuum-xng

Holy ****
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxvKWc6tow&feature=related
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Show ya moves!
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JechtFAQS.

Jigglypuff probably wouldn't beat any of the other original 12, except maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Ness, and I'd hesitate to pick her to beat him.
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Jigglypuff > Ness !!

...Would Jiggly get a lot of anti-votes?
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I AM ZEN

Yeah no chance of that I think.

Squirtle is probably the next best pokemon to rally in, though the thought of another pokemon winning the NRT pains me. I'll admit I was wrong about Charizard however, and will likely give my support to something such as Squirtle this time.
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Tag
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Jigglypuff would lose to Ness.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

We need to get Squirtle AND Blastoise in, so that way when Squirtle gets eliminated we can have a bunch of "It's OK son, you did your best. Let's get some ice cream" posts.
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I AM ZEN

For reference:

Jigglypuff
Ness
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Mario
Donkey Kong
Kirby
Pikachu
Fox
Yoshi
Samus
Link

I'd pick Jiggly over Captain Falcon, Ness and Fox. Total fanboy pick that I'd love to throw away points on.
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Blastoise would fail, he has no anime power.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

Squirtle would probably be pretty popular (as long as he always got the Sunglasses pic), you also have Starmie and Onyx that would likely do well too.

In terms of popularity I'm trying to think of which pokemon would rival Charizard in terms of pure contest strength. Squirtle is definitely up there, as he was badass and the best starter pokemon. But I can't think of anything that gained as much popularity as the originals. I guess Tyranitar is pretty popular -- actually very popular. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranitar could beat Pikachu and give Charizard a good run (it's used in pretty much every good competitive pokemon team, and it has a badass design).

Ultimately though I would think Charizard and Squirtle are the strongest two, followed by many that could potentially be #3.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Is there any sort of series cap on the NRT? >_>
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I think Jiggly would do considerably better than the vote-in showed thanks to Missingno (who was the strongest character the vote-ins showed us -- only MMX is close), Mudkip, and Toad. Maybe you could exaggerate and say there was some fighter-LFF too with Hibiki/Scorpion/Yoshimitsu in the poll, too, though that doesn't feel very honest.

Still, I don't think she's worth enough for another rally at this point. It'll probably happen again just because Pokemon's been doing well this year and the NRT loves having Pokemon represented, but, meh...if she doesn't get a position in it, I'll gladly miss her rally. She's loved by a select few and loathed or at least unenjoyable to most. I think she would get more anti-votes than Pikachu at this point and might be one of the few characters that would legitimately be affected by anti-votes.
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Wait, people hate Jigglypuff? From personal experience, most seem fond of the little guy, though I've run into a couple of haters (particularly among the Brawl community). But all in all, yeah, Jiggly would probably be the weakest of the SSB64 cast, though not far behind Ness.

Why all the Squirtle support, though? I think Snorlax, Meowth and Zapdos would be far better bets. Maybe Arcanine, Gengar and Typhlosion too.

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CURRENT BRACKET SCORE: 90.
Characters who helped my bracket most: Falcon, Sub-Zero, Jecht

Quick poll...

How many people call Jigglypuff "he" and how many call it "she"?
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Squirtle and Jigglypuff are probably the strongest pokemon yet to show up.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

I can't be the only one who thinks that we really don't need any more pokemon in these contests.
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A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII

How many people call Jigglypuff "he" and how many call it "she"?

Anyone that knows Jigglypuff would probably say she.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

From: charmander6000 | #021
Squirtle and Jigglypuff are probably the strongest pokemon yet to show up.

We should fix this next year.
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Truly, if there is a god of destiny, he is fond of plot twists.

There's a bunch of Pokemon we haven't seen yet that I'd take over Jigglypuff.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

I really, really doubt that Jigglypuff is one of the stronger ones not to show up.

I think in terms of power it would most likely be like...

Charizard = Gyarados > Squirtle = Snorlax > Mewtwo >= Pikachu etc.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Half the original 152, if not more, are capable of getting over the fodder line. Way over, even.
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"Final Fantasy XI is a bad game that no one should care about for any reason." -FFDragon

Pikachu is probably the strongest Pokemon indirectly with maybe Charizard being stronger than him.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

In terms of popularity I'm trying to think of which pokemon would rival Charizard in terms of pure contest strength. Squirtle is definitely up there, as he was badass and the best starter pokemon. But I can't think of anything that gained as much popularity as the originals. I guess Tyranitar is pretty popular -- actually very popular. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranitar could beat Pikachu and give Charizard a good run (it's used in pretty much every good competitive pokemon team, and it has a badass design).

Tyranitar would not beat the strong Pokemon from the first Gen. He's not as well known or loved. He may be played extensively by people who play the newer Pokemon games, but that group is minuscule compared to the people who played through RBY.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

I'm unsure as to why it took Charizard so long to get in, but I'm pretty sure that Gyarados would be just as strong as Charizard. Gyarados is a huge fan favorite and very popular within the competitive community as well.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

I guess Tyranitar is pretty popular -- actually very popular. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyranitar could beat Pikachu and give Charizard a good run (it's used in pretty much every good competitive pokemon team, and it has a badass design).

I love Tyranitar, but I can't see him competing with Charizard.

Is there any sort of series cap on the NRT? >_>

I don't think there's an explict cap but NRT Voters tend to start anti-voting when a series starts to get too many representatives.


For what it's worth, there was a Pokemon poll held on Pokemon.com back in 2006 (after Emerald, before DP so no 4th gen Pokemon). I don't remember exactly how the poll worked but here's the Top 20 (in Pokedex order, not popularity):

Bulbasaur
Charizard
Blastoise
Pikachu
Alakazam
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Dragonite
Typhlosion
Espeon
Umbreon
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Tyranitar
Blaziken
Absol
Latias
Latios

Also there appeared to have been an official Pokemon poll held for Europeans. Once again, I'm not sure on the details of how it worked but I have the Top 10 (Pokedex order, not popularity):

Charizard
Pikachu
Articuno
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-oh
Latias
Latios
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Tyranitar has a lot going for him -- he has a badass design, was shown to be extremely powerful in shows/movies, and he's used extensively by the competitive community. On top of which he has a good name, and has been in since GSC. If you think that there are more RBY players than all of the other gens combined you'd be mistaken. Tyranitar is available I think in every gen, too, since his inclusion.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Gyarados's problem is being a total pain in the ass to get. No one likes Magicrap switching in every fight.
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I'm unsure as to why it took Charizard so long to get in, but I'm pretty sure that Gyarados would be just as strong as Charizard. Gyarados is a huge fan favorite and very popular within the competitive community as well.

Gyarados is most likely the strongest Pokemon to have never made the field so far (him or Squirtle). He won't be as strong as Charizard though, as Charizard was most people's first Pokemon. The one they took all the way through to the final four. Gyarados doesn't have that same attachment.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Jigglypuff would probably beat a lot of Pokemon thanks to the SSB-series, especially the Pokemon that came after RBY...but that doesn't mean a lot. I'd still take Ness pretty confidently over her (spare the jokes!). Every original SSB-character but Jigglypuff has made it into the contest...multiple times. All of them except Jiggly is in this contest without the help of the vote-ins, while we're at it; Jiggly only made it to the vote-ins thanks to one of the biggest board-rallies, and she still took last place (for circumstances beyond her control, to be fair).

She'd flop against any somewhat-liked Nintendo-character outside of the Pokemon-series.
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I don't think there's an explict cap but NRT Voters tend to start anti-voting when a series starts to get too many representatives.

Yup remember when too much Nintendo won in the first and second round and almost all of them were massacred in the third round?
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

TRE do you have a link to the poll? I find it very hard to believe that Gyarados isn't the #1 if not top 5, most popular pokemon.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Any pokemon after RBY would be fodder and shouldn't even be bothered with (See: Lucario)

From: vcharon | #017
Is there any sort of series cap on the NRT? >_>

No, but generally you won't see more than one character per series get representation. Red XIII and Cid both got into the Round Robin, but Red XIII did horribly because people didn't want two FFVII representatives. Same thing happened with Charizard and Red, too. Both the Reds got the shaft.
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

For what it's worth, being a random RBY Pokemon gets you 18% on Samus. Assuming no SFF, you'd figure looking either cooler or goofier would make other randoms strong enough to break the fodder line.
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I think people are overrating Gyardos. Squirtle, Blastoise, and Bulbasaur would definitely be stronger at the least.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

I can easily see Gyarados being as strong as Charizard. Everyone who played RBY went after the red Gyarados in the lake, and Gyarados has been a staple in the series since its inclusion, is actually popular in competitive pokemon (unlike Charizard) and has the same nostalgic value. While Charizard does have more airtime in the show and movies; I think Gyarados has a better design and name. So it would be a toss-up for me, but as a nostalgic pokemon player Gyarados > Charizard personally.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres

Aw yeah, Legendary Birds

Seriously, coolest Pokemon right here from RBY. Get these guys in, if nothing else.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

TRE do you have a link to the poll? I find it very hard to believe that Gyarados isn't the #1 if not top 5, most popular pokemon.

You're overestimating the guy.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

And who in the heck is Gyarados anyway?

As someone who only played RBY, I don't even remember which one that is.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

It's Magikarp's evolution.
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magikarp's evo, that big scary looking water dragon.
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Shakes Fist!

Not ringing any bells.
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

From: LeonhartFour | #039
No, but generally you won't see more than one character per series get representation. Red XIII and Cid both got into the Round Robin, but Red XIII did horribly because people didn't want two FFVII representatives. Same thing happened with Charizard and Red, too. Both the Reds got the shaft.

Well yeah I remember that part, I was just thinking of how unappealing it would be to have like 10 pokemon in the contest period. On the note of bringing it up, I still think Red > Cid by a decent margin.
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I still think Red > Cid by a decent margin.

If X is stronger than Mega Man, this might be true in two cases!
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