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From: voltch | #199
Every match features some dgree of SFF, when you have 50k or 80k people voting, to assume that no one has played both games in which the characters feature is nearly impossible since these are supposed to be the most popular characters on the site.
Its the degree of SFF you gotta calculate, would you say the overlap between Zelda/Castlevania players is smaller than the overlap between Zelda/Warcraft players. Its not as dominant as blatant as FFVII/FFVIII, but every match has some SFF, sometimes negligeable but other times it can just about make a little tweak in the results.

World of Warcraft is a very popular game that millions of people play, and that doesn't even count the other Warcraft games that predate it, so I don't know that for certain more people have played Castlevania or not. I would again go to my argument that a lot of WoW players just don't care about the characters, and that perhaps Castlevania players do. At the end of the day though, it's too hard to predict whether a significant of people played two games rather than another two games. It's not like Warcraft is exactly a cult series like Disgaea or something.
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Cloud also surpassed his percentage on Ridley! Aw yeah Ridley > Chris.

Link/Alucard SFF is only minimal at best. There's, what, Castlevania 3 and a couple of the handheld games? Alucard's known for SotN, and there's not going to be a large overlap there since it's mainly a PS1 game and to a lesser extent a 360 downloadable game.

As for Cloud/Chris, depends on how much of Chris's strength comes from RE1 or 2 or whatever his first game is, and how much comes from the recent RE5. There'll be much more overlap between Cloud and Chris's PS1 fans than between Cloud and RE5 fans, the latter is easily the bigger fanbase here, so the SFF is probably minimal at best.

I.E., Chris just sucks.
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Not Wylvane

While technically every match has SFF it only comes into play when there is misproportion of it. Technically getting 72% instead of 71% is SFF and will affect the stats, but calling every match SFF will basically kill off the term.
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

There's different degrees of SFF. People use it as a catch-all to invalidate matches and ignore them, but most (or all) SFF matches do give us useful information.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi

Though I do concede it is not a major case and just more subtle than a Link/Ganondorf situation.
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Match LXXXVI: (5) Riku vs. (4) Captain Falcon

Last Round

Riku – 62.31%
Ramza Beoulve – 37.69%

Captain Falcon – 71.13%
Wander – 28.87%

Analysis

Both characters managed to perform below expectations of the board. Pretty amazing when people call someone of Falcon’s strength breaking 70% unimpressive, but that is what the opinion of the board is. Riku is the board favourite though in my opinion I think the match can go either way and that no one should be considered a heavy favourite.

This is Captain Falcon’s second non-Nintendo match since Crono in 2006. In the previous contest Falcon was able to keep rather close with Alucard despite Diddy Kong holding him back. I feel that the guy is no weakling and while he didn’t quite crushed Wander as badly as some people wanted this contest does seem to be anti-blowout and Wander has only appeared in four-ways which he might have suffered from last placed factor.

Riku’s performance on Ramza wasn’t any better last round, but when you look at how well Sora performed against Laharl maybe that four-pack was underrated. However there are two sides to this coin and maybe Kingdom Hearts has dropped over the years. On the other hand Roxas had a decent performance against Sub-Zero; maybe Kingdom Hearts characters don’t like the darkness.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Captain Falcon won, but I’m going to stick with the safe bet and my bracket of Riku. Also with the match being in the day maybe he’ll perform better than what he did against Ramza which was pretty bad.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Riku > Captain Falcon

charmander6000’s Prediction: Riku wins, 53.35% - 46.65%

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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

I'll just say that this match does not have any signifant SFF.
He should be happy he's doing as well as he is. 28% against Cloud is a good result for the man who once lost to Pyramid Head.
Nobody should have expected anything significantly better. I would have been shocked if Chris had managed to get 30+ here.
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A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII

Why do people keep bringing up losing to Pyramid Head like it means anything now. They're not the same person, they weren't even the same person in the last contest.

Should we constantly bring up the Pikachu the was once doubled by Fox?
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

*that was once
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

Chris > Jill certainly makes sense, but for now I'd still pick Jill to win. I personally think there is a minimal amount of PS1 SFF going on here, but if so...then CHRIS STILL SUCKS (as he merely 55-45s Ridley of all characters)!!! Or maybe Cloud not getting a Dissidia pic helped?

And I'm still finding it difficult to believe that Ridley could boost so much solely from two appearances in a widely panned story mode. I can stomach the idea of him boosting from mid fodder to low midcarder from that, but to mid midcarder??? Then again, Brawl is much more well liked here than it is most elsewhere, so maybe the Subspace Emissary is also well liked here. Of course, that would be just plain stupid, and if Ridley really did boost all the way up to mid midcarder level, then it kinda shows how strong Samus would be without Smash (low to mid midcarder, it seems). Ouch!

For the fun of it, I thought up the number of points you would get in the bottom three divisions of the games contest if you sided with the lists from Destructoid, Empire Magazine, and VGChartz. Siding with Destructoid (Portal > Galaxy in the finals) gets you 8/48 points. Siding with Empire Magazine (CoD4 > GTAIV finals) gets you 10/48 points, and siding with VGChartz (MGS4 > Galaxy finals) gets you 18/48 points. So there you see our unique and stupid taste (in particular Brawl is much more popular here while Galaxy is much less).

You know what I just realized?

Ridley > Jill!
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Not Wylvane

We need Ridley/Magus to humiliate Magus further!

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For what it's worth, it never made sense to me that Ridley was as weak as he was. His performance this year is what I would have expected if I had never seen him before. He is the recurring villain in the Metroid series, which, while not terribly popular, is still one of Nintendo's big series.

I think this is one of the cases where the pic really made a difference. This was the first pic he ever got where he looked like the badass dragon that he is, and not some red blob.

Chris is certainly stronger than he used to be, but he is not at Jill's level.
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A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII

And to think where Ridley is getting his newfound strength from...

Or maybe Cloud not getting a Dissidia pic helped?

Cloud doesn't have any pictures that are really known to hurt him, except for maybe Tactics mini-Cloud sprite (which I always thought looked cool, but whatever).

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91/104 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII
NP: Cloud Strife > Chris Redfield | Riku > Captain Falcon

Yeah, Cloud's a rather photogenic character. You're not going to find many shots that don't make him look badass.
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I have a horrible feeling Riku is going to get 60% on Captain Falcon.
But I'm going to hope that FALCON PUNCH can make our dear Captain win.
Riku has the KH series going on for him.
Captain Falcon has Smash, F-Zero, and the FALCON PUNCH meme going for him.
Well, time to wait and see.

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Also I am never getting excited about that match again, but if Cloud can exceed Link's percentage a bit more, I think it might actually start being worth talking about... Alucard wouldn't be all that much stronger than Chris...
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From: Haguile | #217
I have a horrible feeling Riku is going to get 60% on Captain Falcon.
But I'm going to hope that FALCON PUNCH can make our dear Captain win.
Riku has the KH series going on for him.
Captain Falcon has Smash, F-Zero, and the FALCON PUNCH meme going for him.
Well, time to wait and see.

Fear not, no one is getting 60% in that match good sir.
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Midgar Division: Round 2 - Match 86 – (5) Riku vs. (4) Captain Falcon

Moltar’s Analysis

Riku
Round 1 - 62.31% vs. Ramza

This was at night too.

Falcon
Round 1 - 71.13% vs. Wander

70% on Wander who couldn’t do this?

After Ramza stunk it up in 2008 (well, Laharl’s good performance against Sora kinda redeems this), Riku’s 62% didn’t seem great. However, that was during Riku’s worst time, and FFT was bound to have a terrible day vote. That was going to get pretty ugly for Ramza, so I believe that Riku is a bit underrated going into this match.

That aside, Falcon was looking really good going into their match. All he had to do was kill Wander and put himself as the favorite. Instead, he barely broke 70%. 70% is good, but I wanted to see more, especially since it’s freakin’ Wander.

For now, I’m backing Riku in the match still. Being a day match helps both characters, but I believe that helps KH more than it does Falcon seeing as the latter did nothing during the day against his opponent. Plus, Ramza would dismantle Wander, and Riku would have beaten Ramza by more in a day match. He shouldn’t have too much trouble with Falcon here.

Moltar’s Bracket: Riku > Falcon

Moltar’s Prediction: Riku: 55% - Falcon: 45%



Lopen’s Analysis

The Lopen still does not feel well, but The Lopen will analyze yet.

The Lopen sees no reason to doubt Riku here, despite never counting Captain Falcon's chances out completely. What he did against Ramza was about what The Lopen expected. Captain Falcon did a bit worse than expected against The Wander. Thing is Riku had a night match and Falcon had a day match, so any swing goes Riku's way here.

Lopen's prediction
Riku with 55.04%



Transience’s Analysis

True story: When I first filled out my bracket, I picked Falcon.

I don't trust Riku, not at all. I also think Falcon has looked surprisingly good the last couple of years. Riku always goes way below my expectations and Falcon goes way above them. Riku couldn't even blow out one of the weakest Square characters we have in Ramza. Falcon put up a nice number against Wander, but it's Wander so who knows what you can take from that.

Ultimately, I'm sticking with Riku for two reasons:

1.) Falcon is kinda like Duke Nukem in that he's a manly dude that people have turned into a fad over the years; those kinds of characters are likely to benefit from a fourway format.
2.) This is a day match and, while Falcon's good in the day, Riku's better.

transience's prediction: Riku with 54.03%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Quickie w/ Ng: Ugh, impossible to describe how much it pains me to support KH. I'd be able to justify Falcon in a Night Match, but eh, Riku probably gets bailed out in the afternoon here.

Ngamer Says: Riku > Captain Falcon, 50.63%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Well, I'm 0/4 for debatable matches in Round 2 so far. Let's see if we can make this 1/5.

Captain Falcon's a tough guy to gauge. He got tripled by Crono in 2006. Lost to Wario, of all people, in 2007. Then he had a pretty good showing on Alucard last year, and followed it up with a complete wasting of Wander in Round 1 this year. At first glance, those last two performances might be pretty impressive. But I don't think they are. Wander is bottom of the barrel fodder. Hell, he's not even allowed in the fodder barrel, he's underneath it. And 44% on Alucard...well, that's better if you consider him to be significantly hurt by the other Nintendo characters in the poll. Otherwise, that puts him around Magus level.

Would you take Riku over Magus? I would.

Bracket: Riku
Favorites: Riku
Prediction: Riku with 56.34%

Red Sox’s Analysis

Here's a semi-debated match. Riku did really well in 2006, putting up 45% on Yoshi, before regressing back to being a midcarder in after years once the initial excitement over KH2 wore off. Captain Falcon is a strange case- he got 25% on Crono in 2006, making him look like high fodder, but then looked much much better in 2008, putting up nearly 39% on Pikachu and over 44% on Alucard despite Diddy Kong being in the same poll. I have no idea what happened between 2006 and 2008 to cause such a dramatic change, and I'm not even going to try arguing for Crono/Falcon SFF based on the anecdote that I've observed many posters on Smashboards have CT avatars. You could argue Brawl, but the thing is that Captain Falcon's claim to fame is Melee, and he awful in Brawl.

So, which Falcon shows up here? I really don't know, although Riku probably handles either one would too much hardship. I probably trust Falcon's 1v1 performances more than 4-ways if it comes down to it, even though that match was 3 years ago. We finally get to see KH and Melee got at it- unfortunately this is a weekend match, just like their match in the Games Contest, so we'll once again be unable to crown the king of the day vote.

Prediction: Riku with 57.53%
Upset Potential: 10%
Upper Bound: Riku with 63%
Lower Bound: Falcon with 51%



Guest’s Analysis - Biolizard

I don’t think this is too difficult a match, but I’m siding with the good Captain here. Pre-Contest, my logic was that Riku has always been a bit mediocre, and outside of Sora, Kingdom Hearts isn’t especially strong on this site. I mean, Roxas let Heavy come closer than he ever should have gotten, and Ansem, far back as it may be, nearly let CATS get the better of him. Captain Falcon may not be a midcarder or anything, but in recent times, his feats are fair enough and what we should expect for a character whose best known for his cameo in a fighting game.

Round 1 validates my pick, as Riku failed to double a character who’s Laharl tier while Falcon got 70+% on Wander. That doesn’t seem terribly impressive, but considering how total blowouts are rare, if not impossible, in this format, I think I’ll let it slide. Nintendo has been looking pretty good this year, too, what with Pokemon beasting all over the place. I trust in the good Captain’s ability to win this one.

Riku is so lame
Cannot double buttpants man
Now get Falcon Punched

My Bracket: Captain Falcon > Riku
Favorite: Captain Falcon
Predix: Captain Falcon with 56%



Crew Consensus: The Guest believes in Falcon, but everyone else is sticking with Riku.

Looks like Captain Falcon is now the favourite to win.

>_>
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

YES!
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Also, a pretty good "WAAAAH CHRIS IS LOSING THESE CONTESTS R DUM" topic:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=929197&topic=53676147
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I guess it's now time for Captain Falcon to show us his moves.
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JechtFAQS.

Assuming Laharl = Ramza, Riku is projected get 42.78% on Sora this year. Fox got 43.76% on Sora in Round 1 last year. For Falcon to win, he needs to be around as strong as Fox, but since Fox SFF'd him badly in '07, he probably isn't that strong.

Does this seem right to you guys?
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Sonic_Factor Prediction


Riku > Captain Falcon

53-47
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

Lol, Ridley > Chris. Can we put these ridiculous RE5 boost comments to rest now? It seems pretty evident that impressive Resident Evil performance in the first round was due to the weakness of their opponents, not some imaginary boost from a game that did nothing to expand the size of the RE fanbase.

RE BOOST.
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*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.

oh god

will he make 72%
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If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer!

RE5 is the best selling RE game of all time and Gold Edition comes out next month to boost those numbers.
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lol calling Ridley weak after he broke 28% on Cloud.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

Riku 14.29%

2
Captain Falcon 85.71%

12
TOTAL VOTES 14
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Moltar Status: Prediction: Cloud > Chris (86/104)
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xfd

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Vote Accepted
Riku 22.73%

10
Captain Falcon 77.27%

34
TOTAL VOTES 44

lol?
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If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE]
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Riku 0% 0
Captain Falcon 100% 7
TOTAL VOTES 7


FALCON PUNCH
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Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

Riku 18.18% 4

Captain Falcon 81.82% 18

TOTAL VOTES 22
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oh shi
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haha

WHAT
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Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 16th
Today's prediction: Cloud - 67.34% Status:

good lord you people
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Riku 22.5% 9
Captain Falcon 77.5% 31
TOTAL VOTES 40

FALCON BOARD VOTE
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Mustache...and Green...

ouch Riku
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Shakes Fist!

Vote Accepted
Riku 38.24%

65
Captain Falcon 61.76%

105

YES
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lol Riku.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 83/104 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Riku

wow.. falcon is for real.
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*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.

uuuuh

board vote or not Falcon probably has this
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Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 16th
Today's prediction: Cloud - 67.34% Status:

riku past 42%, he got this. lol board vote
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

yessss falcon

YOU ALL LAUGHED AT ME BUT WHO IS GETTING FALCON PUNCHED IN THE FACE NOW?!

(not me)

(you guys)

(especially you)
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This is just the awesome board vote Falcon has, with the ASV (or even before) Riku will catch up.
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SHOW ME YA MOVES
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