GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 850
vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 1:13:22 AM | message detail |
Well
"face of" was probably a bad phrase to throw out. Looking over the
bracket, I see no character created by a western company that can match
Sub-Zero at this point. He's not exactly a face of anything obviously,
since he's only half of the face of MK (and not really the actual
favorite of the people who make the game). Still, by definition, I
think it's clear he has to be the favorite at this point. There's no
way I would take Kratos to beat him. But yeah, MC is pretty much done. I revert back to my original point that western games just don't have characters the player base cares about very much these days. --- :> |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/26/2010 1:15:04 AM | message detail |
Cube <_<? Didn't do well enough against The Boss for me to take it over the Chief or Kratos or Subby or Gordon or Shepard (probably)... maybe Altair. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
Japago | Posted 2/26/2010 1:24:21 AM | message detail |
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Japago | Posted 2/26/2010 1:26:33 AM | message detail |
I
would take him over Shepard in later contests. Shepard beat fodder and
is probably experiencing a mini-Master Chief 07 boost where he's doing
better because his game just came out. --- -Heals severely dry skin -18 hour moisturization -Fragrance free -With Vitamin E |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/26/2010 2:51:12 AM | message detail |
Is Ratchet projected to start taking % back at some point in this match? Not sure on his vote patterns. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 5th (Partner BZer0) |
vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 2:56:55 AM | message detail |
I assume during the morning he might, but I'm not really sure about Ratchet trends. --- :> |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/26/2010 3:10:26 AM | message detail |
Well one more similar update and I guess that will answer that. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 5th (Partner BZer0) |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/26/2010 3:10:55 AM | message detail |
Actually, that was 3 anyway. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 5th (Partner BZer0) |
Japago | Posted 2/26/2010 3:42:51 AM | message detail |
There's
your answer. Ratchet used 6-12PM to make up ~1.7% on Dante in 04. I
don't know most of the trends though in these contests. --- -Heals severely dry skin -18 hour moisturization -Fragrance free -With Vitamin E |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/26/2010 3:56:50 AM | message detail |
Really
low percentage for the previous match.I guess most people had Tidus
winning.I also have.And today the prediction for this match will be low
too. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/26/2010 4:00:28 AM | message detail |
Also Jecht is a 14 seed but he goes to round 3.First time such a thing happens? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/26/2010 4:01:52 AM | message detail |
I decided not to joke vote for Gordon Freeman, so my vote goes to Cloud's Best Friend (TM). Also Cloud's pic looks somewhat unrecognizable to me. I don't usually see side shots of him however, and his hair just dominates his side of the pic. Reply please? |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/26/2010 4:06:45 AM | message detail |
I
think the furthest a 14 seed has gone before was the second round.
Least I think Tina is the only previous 14 seed to progress from round
1. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 5th (Partner BZer0) |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/26/2010 4:07:59 AM | message detail |
Well Big Daddy is a 14 seed too this year but I meant prior to this contest. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 5th (Partner BZer0) |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/26/2010 4:10:56 AM | message detail |
If Big Daddy does that too,it would be awesome.2 14 seeds to round 3?Nice! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
voltch | Posted 2/26/2010 4:13:08 AM | message detail |
where do yo get your 14 seeds from in an 8 man div? --- Shakes Fist! |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/26/2010 4:16:26 AM | message detail |
It's hilarious that Tina Armstrong is the only 14 seed to advance to round 2 prior to this contest. Tina > Peach? Wait no, the x-stats say that 2006 Gordon breaks 70% on Tina! Holy crap! |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/26/2010 4:33:40 AM | message detail |
Man
I looked some posts and yeah it seems people don't like Western
characters here.I mean look Ezio and Drake,they are in games that came
out in 2009,got really good sales,got GOTY awards but Drake lost to
round 1 and Ezio loses to round 2!I don't understand,I mean is it
because Japanese characters are older that are supported that much? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
voltch | Posted 2/26/2010 4:35:53 AM | message detail |
The
most surprising thing is the fact that these guys continue to bomb on
an american site AND, their games dominate the Gamefaqs Goty. After
relatively lackluster showings from say NSMBwii and Spirit Tracks you'd
be tempted to think of a small decline but NOOOO. --- Shakes Fist! |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/26/2010 4:37:43 AM | message detail |
True.I guess people only care about the games,not characters? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 4:41:21 AM | message detail |
Today's gamers have a short attention span. If the main character was some random object or something it'd be a smash hit. --- :> |
Fauxtomaton | Posted 2/26/2010 4:42:45 AM | message detail |
their games dominate the Gamefaqs Goty. To be fair, GotY 2009 isn't really a title worthy of respect. |
Japago | Posted 2/26/2010 4:56:55 AM | message detail |
In
relation to this contest, if gaming is shifting towards the West and
people don't care about Western characters, where are we going to get
strong, new characters? I know East gaming isn't gonna completely go
away, but man. The thought of having no new good characters is kinda
sad. I mean, it's cool seeing old but new-to-the-contest characters,
but I think those will run out eventually. --- -Heals severely dry skin -18 hour moisturization -Fragrance free -With Vitamin E |
Fauxtomaton | Posted 2/26/2010 5:02:17 AM | message detail |
if gaming is shifting towards the West While the west has certainly had more of the focus for this generation, I think it's too soon to call it. The industry isn't exactly at its healthiest right now (rather poor economy + absurdly high dev costs), and it's sort of difficult to draw conclusions from an unstable market. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/26/2010 5:04:18 AM | message detail |
Nice morning vote for Ratchet. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
ToadYoshi | Posted 2/26/2010 5:06:56 AM | message detail |
Chief
let a mid to high midcarder put up 52.5% on him during the afternoon on
a weekday. Ryu Hayabusa isn't a stellar character. He is a good
character, worth anywhere from 100% to 50% of Zero/Vivi based on how
much you trust LOL 4 Ways and certain matches. He is proof that you
don't need a ton of actual strength to beat Master Flop. The other thing is that MC is not very transitive. Those who would vote Ryu H over him are more likely to vote for anyone else over him and MC voters are likely to prefer MC to anyone. This is bad for you if you don't actually have 50% of the fans. I'd take Cube over MC. The same 45% or so would vote for MC (although this number seems to be decreasing...lol Chief), and the same 55% would vote for the character with taste. The potentially fantastic thing is that this tailspin might continue. If he drops at a fairly constant rate, his failure combined with others' boosting (or at least remaining constant) could put him under an incredible number of characters. Altair/Ike/Zidane > MC 2011. Ratchet/The Boss > MC 2012. Spy/Prinny > MC 2013. The fact that there's even a remote chance we might see Prinny surpass MC in a few years is a great thing. --- Guru contest: 90/98 (T4) Misses: Boss, Altair, Kefka, Glitch, Ryu, Zard Next upset: Big Daddy > Ness |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/26/2010 5:41:44 AM | message detail |
Lame common enemies from a crappy obscure series beating The Chief is never a good thing. Even if Bungie leaves, someone will step up to keep Halo going. No way Microsoft lets their biggest cash cow get sent to the slaughterhouse. --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 5:51:56 AM | message detail |
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vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 5:52:26 AM | message detail |
How
exactly does anyone voting for WCC have any taste? That's the sort of
blind Master Chief hate that's sickening and pathetic... just because
he fronts Halo doesn't make him the devil. He's actually a character
you know, unlike some things that you refer to as "character with
taste". Could Chief lose to WCC? Sure, but it would have absolutely
nothing to do with "taste" and as a voter for Ryu Hayabusa, Sub-Zero
and Frog in the past I assure you wholeheartedly I would vote MC in
that match. --- :> |
BeingSarcastic | Posted 2/26/2010 6:04:48 AM | message detail |
As you are someone who has clearly played Portal charon, I have judged your opinion to be 100% reliable and accurate and From: vcharon | #429 absolutely nothing to do with "taste" --- Everything I have said and everything I ever will say should be taken as nothing but the deepest held opinion in my heart. |
vcharon | Posted 2/26/2010 6:10:47 AM | message detail |
*claps slowly* This isn't a game contest. If it was, then I would probably vote for Portal. Halo, as a series, just isn't my type of game. Master Chief is a better option than something that isn't a character. --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/26/2010 7:07:16 AM | message detail |
Match LXXXIV: (10) Zelda vs. (2) Ezio Auditore da Firenze Last Round Travis Touchdown – 29.33% Zelda – 70.67% Ezio Auditore da Firenze – 59.71% Simon Belmont – 40.29% Analysis Continuing the 2 seed curse in this contest our fifth 2 seed will fail to reach the third round. This was however widely accepted pre-contest since Zelda is a contest powerhouse and while Ezio is a new character there is only so much people will believe Assassin’s Creed II will do for the guy. After the first round things looked even worse for Ezio has he only performed slightly better on Simon than Altair did on Liquid Snake. While it was laughed at earlier there is a chance that Chrono Trigger and Castlevania have some kind of relationship. Simon’s only two matches before this contest had Crono in the poll yet he performed rather well in the vote-in and this contest. Alucard was crushed by Crono last contest, though that was an L-Block match and he did defeat Magus by a lot worse than expected. The best comparison is Symphony of the Night in the last games contest. The game got crushed by a lot more than expected in round 2 when Chrono Trigger was added when one should expect it to perform better when removing Resident Evil, a fellow Playstation game. Zelda and Simon were in the same division in 2007 and using the magic of x-stats Zelda is expected to triple Ezio. I’m not ready to call Ezio weaker than Travis, I feel confident that Castlevania is affected by Chrono Trigger or at the very least the Simon that we know now is nothing like the Simon that we knew in 2002 and 2007. Zelda shouldn’t have a problem winning, but anyone expecting Ezio to perform worse than Travis Touchdown is out of their minds. charmander6000’s Bracket: Zelda > Ezio Auditore da Firenze charmander6000’s Prediction: Zelda wins, 62.73% - 37.27% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 79/100 - Today's Winners: Jecht and Zelda |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/26/2010 7:39:14 AM | message detail |
Maybe people will view the match as medieval princess vs. renaissance thief? |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/26/2010 7:46:28 AM | message detail |
What Western characters have been impressive, anyway? Sub-Zero? Vault Boy? Price? Jury's still out on Shepard and Big Daddy. --- Not Wylvane |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/26/2010 7:48:49 AM | message detail |
Also: If Missingno made it into a contest before 2007, like 2004 or so, would it be nearly as strong as it is now? Seriously doubt it'd be much higher than fodder level. --- Not Wylvane |
XxSoulxX | Posted 2/26/2010 7:49:37 AM | message detail |
Man
I looked some posts and yeah it seems people don't like Western
characters here.I mean look Ezio and Drake,they are in games that came
out in 2009,got really good sales,got GOTY awards but Drake lost to
round 1 and Ezio loses to round 2!I don't understand,I mean is it
because Japanese characters are older that are supported that much? That's exactly it. The number one reason why a character has strength has nothing to do with how cool that character is or how amazing their game is. The reason is nostalgia. All these Western characters are pretty new to gaming as of this moment, so they don't have that factor yet. It's keeping them below all these characters who starred in games a decade ago. If Drake/Altair/Ezio/whoever keeps making high profile games, then in 5-6 years, they could be really strong here. Until that time, they'll be midcarders or lower. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/26/2010 8:00:29 AM | message detail |
Well
Master Chief is quite iconic and maybe nostalgic for some, and he's not
exactly strong here. He seems to be a good bet for #1 Western character
at the moment, however, though I may have been forgetting somebody...oh
right, Sub-Zero may still be stronger than him. Blah. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 2/26/2010 8:02:14 AM | message detail |
Master Chief is also universally hated, so you can't count him. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/26/2010 8:04:10 AM | message detail |
What would Sub-Zero get on Leon, for the record? --- Not Wylvane |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/26/2010 8:05:26 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #439 Based on last year's stats? 42.95% But Leon Kennedy's number is inflated due to being directly connected to Kirby. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/26/2010 8:07:40 AM | message detail |
Gordon Freeman's original classic game came in '98, and he's been a midcarder at best in these things. Western gaming has a lot of great characters. You can tell by similar polls on GameSpy/GameSpot/etc that are very popular with a large section of gaming. Unfortunately, GameFAQs' main audience tends to lean towards the fanbase of Japanese characters, and thats probably the way its always gonna be :/ --- Currently NOT on the CBVIII Leaderboard v_v Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/26/2010 8:07:42 AM | message detail |
I would say the two would have a decent match, provided Leon didn't boost from not being in RE5. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 79/100 - Today's Winners: Jecht and Zelda |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/26/2010 8:08:29 AM | message detail |
Vault Boy for strongest western character here we go! --- Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/26/2010 8:08:45 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #429 I see you're on yet another whining kick. Vault Boy is not a joke character, people who like Cube have plenty of taste, go use No More Tears shampoo, etc etc etc. Or cry more, whatever, blah blah blah. Grow up. --- "There are no fingerprints deep under water, nothing to tie one to a crime And if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain." -Dethklok |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/26/2010 8:09:27 AM | message detail |
The
main problem of western companies is that there are no large scale
series, a company makes a game, maybe a sequel then moves on to another
style of game. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 79/100 - Today's Winners: Jecht and Zelda |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/26/2010 8:09:49 AM | message detail |
So
Sub-Zero's pretty much the strongest Western character we have barring
Shepard being equal to Pikachu or something crazy like that. Vault Boy may be second strongest though! --- Not Wylvane |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/26/2010 8:10:49 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #446 You mean that guy who clearly isn't a joke character, dominating the Fallout series? Yeah he's pretty beastly. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/26/2010 8:12:16 AM | message detail |
Jecht 56.32% 24139 Ratchet 43.68% 18720 TOTAL VOTES 42859 Little late but hey --- Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/26/2010 8:14:31 AM | message detail |
Ratchet with a good showing this contest. Where's the wiki page for characters that have never won a match? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics." -Lucid |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/26/2010 8:16:33 AM | message detail |
Oh and whoever keeps going and fixing PCA typos on the wiki pages, thank you so much! --- I've been burned so bad, but I still play with fire. Sometimes naked truth is what I don't believe in. |