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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 848

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/24/2010 8:06:00 AM | message detail
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Kratos is going to walk away with this match and outside of the lol board 8 vote, won't even be in contention.

We've seen everyone that Duke has touched go down in flames while everything Kratos has been up against has looked great (with Amasatwesaeru, The Boss and Kefka/Terra somewhat making Sonic side characters seem less turdy).
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:07:42 AM | message detail
I have the same feeling that this match will turn out to be like Yoshi/Dante or Ocelot/Wily.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/24/2010 8:08:56 AM | message detail
For once, I hope BT is right about this. I've missed three closes matches in a row now >_<
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lancealots_son | Posted 2/24/2010 8:10:15 AM | message detail
We have no faith in 2 seeds this year do we?

on another note what would 07 L-block be doing to poor Isaac right now?
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:11:53 AM | message detail
Oh wow, I thought the Crew would go in favor of Charizard easily. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is still holding out hope for Kratos... !
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Achromatic | Posted 2/24/2010 8:13:45 AM | message detail
I had Kratos going in.

I will be shocked if Charizard doesn't open up a can of whoopass on him.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:14:47 AM | message detail
on another note what would 07 L-block be doing to poor Isaac right now?

L-Block (2007c) VS Isaac (2007c)

L-Block has a strength of 64.83.
Isaac has a strength of 14.20.

L-Block wins with 89.05% of the vote!
A win of 146,304 with 187,337 total votes cast.
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tee316 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:22:28 AM | message detail
I can't wait for Kratos vs Charizard to start.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:23:10 AM | message detail
Charizard is going to 70/30 Kratos for the first minute.
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voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 8:24:35 AM | message detail
man, the GoWIII hype is nearly non-existent here, pity.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/24/2010 8:25:05 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #056
I had Kratos going in.

I will be shocked if Charizard doesn't open up a can of whoopass on him.


Same.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 2/24/2010 8:31:23 AM | message detail
This is going to be a great match, in that it could theoretically end up 55-45 either way. I can't believe I'm going to miss the first hour for something unimportant like class.

Reasons Zard could win: Kratos has always been a tad overrated. He failed to beat Alucard, then Ryu, then had a good contest in which he defeated Kirby but it was LOL 4 WAYS. For some reason every year we think that this year will be his year, and he'll boost for some reason, but he never does. He just desn't have the strength to be anything higher than a midcarder. And anyone who knew anything about Pokémon knew that Zard was going to be at least as good as and probably stronger than Pikachu. Every one of us remembers that first time w played R/B/Y and we probably started with Zard, or at least had friends who did. With the resurgence of Pokémon, writing them off as a 4 way phenomenon was a big mistake and masked Pokémon's actual strength.

Reasons Kratos could still win: Lol look at all the Pokéfear. Zard has one good match against one bad opponent and suddenly he's better than Sora. Duke was a loser before 4 ways and barely managed to bat decent opponents to establish somewhat of a reputation; getting 65% on him is not impressive. I mean, the guy's pretty much at Marth or Gordon Freeman levels, and we all know what beasts those are. Both Duke and Pokémon somewhat benefit from 4 ways, and both are weak. On the Kratos side, 60% on Tails doesn't look nearly as bad now that The Boss has proven to be better than everyone expected. There's a good chance Tails has a lot more actual strength than we previously thought, and Kratos's showing on him was respectable. Ultimately, in a 1v1 where Zard's dedicated fanbase has less of an impact, Kratos's overall strength gives him the edge.

So which do I think is more correct? In a day match, I think Zard has the edge and wins it, but it will be close. 55-48 Zard or something like that.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/24/2010 8:32:41 AM | message detail
Definitely awaiting this match. Kratos still has a good chance at this, even if I feel Charizard is the favorite.

But mainly, it's a battle between two badasses who are ready to prove their worth by ripping into each other. This match is one of the manliest this board will ever see, and I'm ready to watch two warriors duke it out in a bloody match to the death through numbers and popularity.
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voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 8:34:17 AM | message detail
Charizard, we really should have seen that strength coming, it made perfect sense for him to be a beast, though if he Altair flops, then this contest is just too unpredictable.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2010 8:35:43 AM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #051
The more I think about it, the more I feel like Kratos is going to walk away with this match and outside of the lol board 8 vote, won't even be in contention.


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voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 8:38:00 AM | message detail
Oh, nice I'd love to see that one happen.
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creativename | Posted 2/24/2010 8:38:20 AM | message detail
I really dig that analysis by ToadYoshi :) Who I don't recall seeing before, so welcome.

Pre-contest I figured Charizard to win this match with 52%. Now I'm expecting more like 53%-54%. But, now I'm thinking these guys' x values are like 25%-28%; pre-contest I thought these guys would be 28%-30%. I thought Charizard would be almost a near-elite pre-contest, I'm a bit more skeptical now actually. Although he still could be.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/24/2010 8:38:21 AM | message detail
Yeah, for what it's worth Charizard would have beaten Duke considerably worse in a day-match, but theirs was at night. I'm pretty sure Duke mysteriously drops at noon in several of his matches and we know about Pokemon in the day-time and with the ASV. Kratos is a day-time character too, but so is Tails.

Gotta favor Charizard and I'll vote for him too, but I hope Kratos keeps my bracket going -- I've got him reaching Sora and I managed to get in the top two-hundred recently despite doing very poorly early on. BELIEVE.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/24/2010 8:38:47 AM | message detail
ToadYoshi, did you mean 52-48 or 55-45? I might be new here, but I still think 55-48 is impossible.
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 8:39:10 AM | message detail
My 2009 Games Contest Stats, at long last!

(SSBB ends up so high because MGS overperformed in its last match on OoT due to OoT/Brawl LFF, but there was nothing else I could use)

1. Ocarina of Time – 50.00%
2. Final Fantasy VII – 47.31%
3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 38.63%
4. Super Smash Bros. Melee – 37.28%
5. Final Fantasy X – 36.93%
6. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow – 36.90%
7. Metal Gear Solid – 35.11%
8. A Link to the Past – 34.64%
9. Super Mario 64 – 34.46%
10. Super Mario World – 34.06%
11. Chrono Trigger – 33.46%
12. Kingdom Hearts – 33.17%
13. Pokemon Gold/Silver – 32.57%
14. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 32.47%
15. Final Fantasy VI – 31.55%
16. Final Fantasy VIII – 31.41%
17. GoldenEye 007 – 31.25%
18. Super Mario Bros. – 31.17%
19. Twilight Princess – 30.10%
20. Super Mario RPG – 29.28%
21. Resident Evil 4 – 29.17%
22. Metal Gear Solid 3 – 28.97%
23. Link’s Awakening – 28.95%
24. Kingdom Hearts II – 28.75%
25. The Legend of Zelda – 28.48%
26. Final Fantasy IX – 28.40%
27. Mario Kart 64 – 28.36%
28. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 27.87%
29. Fallout 3 – 27.49%
30. Majora’s Mask – 27.49%
31. Vice City – 26.71%
32. Final Fantasy – 26.62%
33. Final Fantasy Tactics – 26.57%
34. The Wind Waker – 25.91%
35. Oblivion – 25.49%
36. Final Fantasy IV – 25.41%
37. Diablo II – 25.37%
38. Metroid Prime – 25.34%
39. StarCraft – 25.20%
40. Halo – 24.63%
41. Tales of Symphonia – 24.61%
42. God of War – 24.51%
43. Resident Evil 2 – 24.42%
44. World of Warcraft – 24.22%
45. Knights of the Old Republic – 24.02%
46. Mega Man X – 24.02%
47. Call of Duty 4 – 23.95%
48. Portal – 23.94%
49. San Andreas – 23.76%
50. Grand Theft Auto IV – 23.52%
51. Half-Life II – 23.52%
52. Bioshock – 22.88%
53. Final Fantasy XII – 22.68%
54. Halo 3 – 22.67%
55. Grand Theft Auto III – 22.65%
56. Symphony of the Night – 22.44%
57. Halo 2 – 22.09%
58. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 – 21.41%
59. Half-Life – 21.30%
60. Super Mario Galaxy – 21.22%
61. Sonic the Hedgehog – 20.88%
62. Resident Evil – 20.88%
63. Mega Man 3 – 20.87%
64. Super Metroid – 20.83%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 8:39:15 AM | message detail
65. Super Mario Kart – 20.78%
66. Shadow of the Colossus – 20.37%
67. Okami – 20.15%
68. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind – 20.13%
69. Tetris – 19.80%
70. Star Fox 64 – 19.74%
71. Yoshi’s Island – 19.16%
72. Mortal Kombat II – 19.12%
73. Left 4 Dead – 19.11%
74. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl – 18.93%
75. Street Fighter II – 18.57%
76. Paper Mario – 18.39%
77. Mega Man 2 – 17.94%
78. Disgaea – 17.71%
79. Secret of Mana – 17.61%
80. Street Fighter IV – 17.11%
81. Persona 4 – 17.10%
82. Gears of War – 16.84%
83. Donkey Kong Country – 16.80%
84. Doom – 16.46%
85. Chrono Cross – 16.10%
86. SoulCalibur – 16.01%
87. Mass Effect – 15.46%
88. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 15.38%
89. Battletoads – 15.16%
90. Perfect Dark – 14.22%
91. Earthbound – 13.99%
92. Xenogears – 13.91%
93. Perfect Dark – 13.85%
94. Metroid – 13.78%
95. LittleBigPlanet – 13.66%
96. Fire Emblem – 13.63%
97. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 13.59%
98. The Oregon Trail – 13.52%
99. Kirby Super Star – 13.10%
100. Donkey Kong Country 2 – 12.77%
101. Team Fortress 2 – 12.28%
102. Silent Hill 2 – 12.14%
103. Deus Ex – 11.97%
104. Pac-Man – 11.46%
105. Pong – 11.43%
106. Banjo-Kazooie – 11.15%
107. Donkey Kong – 10.69%
108. Suikoden – 10.50%
109. Contra – 10.14%
110. Punch-Out!! – 9.91%
111. Ninja Gaiden – 9.89%
112. Streets of Rage 2 – 8.83%
113. Duck Hunt – 8.53%
114. River City Ransom – 8.42%
115. Civilization – 7.96%
116. The Secret of Monkey Island – 7.49%
117. Castlevania III – 7.40%
118. SimCity – 6.89%
119. Dragon Warrior III – 6.37%
120. Shining Force II – 6.35%
121. Phantasy Star IV – 5.69%
122. Space Invaders – 5.51%
123. Galaga – 5.33%
124. Gunstar Heroes – 4.89%
125. The Prince of Persia – 4.78%
126. Lufia II – 4.50%
127. Tecmo Super Bowl – 4.50%
128. Crystalis – 3.72%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 8:40:30 AM | message detail
And I could do raw stats, but those would be a total joke after FFVII and OoT obliterated FFX and LTTP in the finals. Aw yeah
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:40:50 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #070
29. Fallout 3 – 27.49%


I like these rankings! Much higher then most early stats had Fallout 3 at least.
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dragon22391 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:41:25 AM | message detail

From: ToadYoshi | #062
55-48 Zard or something like that.


This match is so hardcore
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voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 8:41:50 AM | message detail
go for those, just for the hilarity that may or may not ensue.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/24/2010 8:42:57 AM | message detail
Aw yeah ToS

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:44:18 AM | message detail
I mean, the guy's pretty much at Marth or Gordon Freeman levels, and we all know what beasts those are.

Zard being around Tifa levels? I like this theory.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:44:53 AM | message detail
AND YES! TECMO SUPER BOWL NOT LAST!
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MetricTrout | Posted 2/24/2010 8:45:01 AM | message detail
Not only are 4-way X-stats garbage, regular X-stats are also worthless. Every match has some degree of SFF, of various significance, plus there is also fanbase devotion, pic factor, rallying, momentum, and so many other factors that X-Stat fail to take into account.
red sox 777 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:45:12 AM | message detail
Looks pretty good. We're never all going to agree on adjustments anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 8:45:49 AM | message detail
I'm gonna do a 128, 1-vs.1 bracket based on those 4-way stats straight up and see if we can get a more interesting Games Contest than the one we actually did!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:45:50 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #070
39. StarCraft – 25.20%
40. Halo – 24.63%




things dont change much
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:46:08 AM | message detail
1v1 x-stats aren't garbage. They can't be taken too literally, but they're very very useful.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:49:26 AM | message detail
Not only are 4-way X-stats garbage, regular X-stats are also worthless.

If you trust the 2004 stats, you get the Crono/Sonic/Mega Man three-pack in 2005 correct, and you get Samus winning the 2006 bracket correct (as there's not a reliable reading for 2005 Samus). Just saying.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/24/2010 8:51:33 AM | message detail
regular X-stats are also worthless. Every match has some degree of SFF, of various significance, plus there is also fanbase devotion, pic factor, rallying, momentum, and so many other factors that X-Stat fail to take into account.

Somebody wasn't here for 2004's contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/24/2010 8:51:51 AM | message detail
I'll honestly be shocked if Zard gets less than 55%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:52:33 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #086
I'll honestly be shocked if Zard gets less than 55% at the freeze


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MetricTrout | Posted 2/24/2010 8:53:28 AM | message detail
Why are so many people taking Kratos here? Sure, you could argue that since Altair, and Niko looked bad, then Duke is not that strong, and since Amaterasu is decent, then Shadow is also decent and therefore Tails not that weak, and therefore since Duke is overrated and Tails is underrated Charizard and Kratos' round 1 performances are not indicative of their actual strength...

But if you have to jump through that many hoops, chances are you are just making excuses for your pick. Occam's Razor states that the simplest answer is usually right, and Charizard should definitely be the heavy favorite going into this match.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/24/2010 8:53:48 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #067
I really dig that analysis by ToadYoshi :) Who I don't recall seeing before, so welcome.


I've noticed him posting here recently, and he usually has some great stuff. Great poster overall. Not to mention how he's kicking ass in Guru.

And hell, I think Brawl could very well be the #3 game. Take out OoT and FF7 and I'd go with Brawl to win!

Then again, I had Brawl to win last contest even with FF7 and OoT there!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 8:54:01 AM | message detail
If Charizard doesn't have 55% at the freeze then Kratos wins.

100% serious.
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voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 8:55:07 AM | message detail
ToadYoshi is living of his bracket killing name, but will he be the one to kill Rock's missingno bracket?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2010 8:55:09 AM | message detail
I'm actually gonna be helping Kratos with the board vote. FURY does strange things to a man.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:55:39 AM | message detail

From: MetricTrout | #088
Occam's Razor states that the simplest answer is usually right, and Charizard should definitely be the heavy favorite going into this match.


We said same thing about Chief.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2010 8:56:46 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #093
We said same thing about Chief.


Not really. I noticed people doubting Chief even more as we approached the match.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/24/2010 8:57:14 AM | message detail
Kratos rose a staggering 2.5% against Tails from his board vote to the end of the match. Altair against Vivi could only rise 4%. If Charizard has 55% at the freeze, this is over.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2010 8:57:41 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #094
Not really. I noticed people doubting Chief even more as we approached the match.


Well I meant the point of the simplest answer usually is right. Chief had all the reason to win the match, yet if you looked into it deeper, Ryu H had more reasons to do well. Same thing with this match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/24/2010 8:57:46 AM | message detail
Yeah, but that was typical MC-doubting -- that doubt wasn't really equating to believing in Hayabusa more.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 8:58:28 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #095
Kratos rose a staggering 2.5% against Tails from his board vote to the end of the match. Altair against Vivi could only rise 4%. If Charizard has 55% at the freeze, this is over.


Eh, Charizard has a much better board vote than Tails. 55% at the freeze, and Kratos has a chance.
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I'll sig bet you Yo
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Just promise me this: if Charizard obliterates, please don't be too quick to dismiss Sora/Bowser's chances.
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