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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 848

LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:11:43 PM | message detail
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You know you want one.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/23/2010 10:13:14 PM | message detail
I really, really wish they had plastic, reuse-able Kratos Slurpee cups. Alas, only small paper ones with their flimsiness.

Maybe that's why KRATOS FURY.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/23/2010 10:14:38 PM | message detail
There's a 7-11 that's like 7 minutes from my dorm, and I frequently go there and get Double Gulps and they have those Mass Effect 2 cups, but those are only 32 ounces, so I'm always tempted to get one so I can get some sort of code to do something in the game, but always side with the idea of getting twice as much liquid.

cool story, self
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 10:15:21 PM | message detail
psh

HG/SS hype > a mockery of game fuel

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/23/2010 10:35:35 PM | message detail
So thirsty for FURY.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:37:11 PM | message detail
Oh, and Magus > Bomberman > Phoenix Wright in 2007 for close calls.

Man, that was the most painful comeback attempt ever.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 10:37:43 PM | message detail
Changes in the Top 10

Top 10 Most Popular Day Polls
1. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 91081
2. Mega Man X vs. Captain John Price (R1) – 81068
3. Amaterasu vs. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 79846
4. Master Chief vs. Spy (R1) – 78003
5. Kratos vs. Miles “Tails” Prower (R1) – 77724
6. Gordon Freeman vs. Princess Peach (R1) – 77719
7. Mega Man X vs. Pokemon Trainer Red (R2) – 77712
8. Sub-Zero vs. Tidus (R1) – 77410
9. Bowser vs. Kefka (R2) – 77153
10. Altair vs. Liquid Snake (R1) – 76041


Top 10 Least Popular Night Polls
1. Ryu Hayabusa vs. Crash Bandicoot (R1) – 46209
2. Sora vs. Laharl (R2) – 47008
3. Kefka vs. Arthas Menethil (R1) – 47495
4. Riku vs. Ramza Beoulve (R1) – 48172
5. Yoshi vs. Jak (R1) – 48501
6. Kirby vs. GlaDOS (R2) – 48660
7. Zelda vs. Travis Touchdown (R1) – 48896
8. Weighted Companion Cube vs. Sandal (R1) – 49202
9. Pikachu vs. Banjo (R1) – 49808
10. Jecht vs. Phoenix Wright (R1) – 49879


Top 10 Highest Individual Day Votes
1. Big Boss (R1) – 56904
2. Mega Man X (R1) – 53276
3. Vincent Valentine (R1) – 51698
4. Jill Valentine (R1) – 50656
5. Commander Shepard (R1) - 50052
6. Dante (R1) – 49791
7. Bowser (R2) – 47590
8. Squall Leonhart (R1) – 47575
9. Mega Man X (R2) – 47532
10. Kratos (R1) – 47398


Top 10 Lowest Individual Night Votes
1. Falco Lombardi (R1) – 10419
2. Sandal (R1) – 10775
3. Prince of Persia (R1) – 10814
4. Yuri Lowell (R1) – 11278
5. Jak (R1) – 11338
6. Thrall (R1) – 12232
7. Banjo (R1) – 12405
8. Proto Man (R1) – 14321
9. Travis Touchdown (R1) – 14340
10. Laharl (R2) – 15160

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:37:57 PM | message detail
Tell me about it.

And most satisfying successful upset pick ever is still Subby > Master Chief.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/23/2010 10:38:31 PM | message detail
Off the top of my head, here are the closest ones I've missed:

Starcraft's run
Crono/Vincent 2008
Crono/Missingno
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:39:44 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #008
Tell me about it.

And most satisfying successful upset pick ever is still Subby > Master Chief.


Aw yeah, and Sonic > Crono 2006, too!

Squall > Magus would've been mine if it had actually happened! I argued harder for that upset more than anything I ever have in these contests.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/23/2010 10:39:52 PM | message detail
Duck Hunt > Donkey Kong was the one that annoyed me the most I think. Argh sooo close
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/23/2010 10:40:22 PM | message detail
Duke Nukem isn't that good in 1vs1. Ryu got 70% on him in 2003 and why would he boost at all since then. Ryu also got 56% on Kratos several years ago. Charizard got like 64% on Duke. The only thing that wouldn't line up if Kratos wins tomorrow is Tails but then again, Tails did get 43% on Dante in 2004

I have to agree with Hochi on this. Duke Nukem, if you ask me, seems like a four-way creation.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:40:50 PM | message detail
Man, I didn't even see most of DK/DH, for whatever the reason. I remember voting for DK early in the morning, thinking, "Boooooring," and didn't check again until the next day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:41:07 PM | message detail
Voting for Duck Hunt, rather. I had DK in my bracket.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:41:42 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #011
Duck Hunt > Donkey Kong was the one that annoyed me the most I think. Argh sooo close


UGH I know. Duck Hunt nearly pulled off the closest upset ever. This was frustrating because I had just gotten Metroid > Pac-Man wrong and needed to bounce back, and I... didn't. >.>
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:43:36 PM | message detail
Holy **** did Xenogears really beat the snot out of Pokemon G/S/C?!

Wow how do I not remember that?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:44:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, man! Xenogears was the obvious pick, too!

How times have changed.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/23/2010 10:45:57 PM | message detail
I have a hard time thinking which 1v1 match would have more a shift these days than Pokemon/Xenogears.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:46:13 PM | message detail
I think in the middle of the Games contest my computer died on me, and I missed a lot of these matches. I missed Halo/Starcraft for example, despite having SC > Halo.

At the time I didn't care as much(I think I was obsessed with some girl back then), but now I am like "God damn I missed a part of history).

I followed CT/LttP from someone else's PC too. =( How on Earth did I get stuck missing probably the best contest we've ever had? Just my luck. ;_;
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/23/2010 10:46:29 PM | message detail
I remember that match since it glitches and only accepted votes from GameFAQs users. Xenogears was winning with like 55%

So they had to rerun and everyone that had Pokemon winning figured that with votes from casuals coming in Pokemon had a shot to win and then Xenogears ends up doing better with the non registered users >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 10:46:42 PM | message detail
Xenogears was obvious according to the board.

I did find it funny that when the poll was restarted the casuals favoured Xenogears even more, we were afraid that Pokemon had a chance.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:47:23 PM | message detail
Actually now that I think of it, I was here for SM64 vs Nights into dreams... and THEN my computer crashed.

So I was literally DAYS from experiencing one of the best matches of all time and my computer died. =(
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:48:12 PM | message detail
Ohh that's right they re-ran the poll. Was there a lot of ****ing about that on the board?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 10:48:24 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1631

Who ya got in a rematch?

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/23/2010 10:49:19 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #018
I have a hard time thinking which 1v1 match would have more a shift these days than Pokemon/Xenogears.


What about when I tell you that GTA: Vice City got within 5,000 votes of Melee? >.>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:49:32 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #018
I have a hard time thinking which 1v1 match would have more a shift these days than Pokemon/Xenogears.


Let's see...

Fox/Pikachu...?

Dante/Crono...? Crono doubled Dante back in 2002.

Kefka/Wesker...?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 10:50:28 PM | message detail
Oh, and Sora/Aerith as well, I suppose.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 10:56:36 PM | message detail
KROQ (biggest California radio station) is doing a PS3/God of War 3 giveaway all day tomorrow

California asv in full swing baby
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/23/2010 11:02:08 PM | message detail
L-Block is getting the night vote lol. L-Block has went up almost 0.50% in the last hour.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 11:26:49 PM | message detail
Man, whatever happened to the L Block joke trends. Its almost like he has actual trends now
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/23/2010 11:32:23 PM | message detail
Isaac might kill overnight if this trend continues. He has 4 straight 41% updates (we say 3 is a trend, right?)
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/24/2010 3:29:39 AM | message detail
Come to think of it, it is truly amazing that Missingno could put on such a spectacular performance against Crono when other joke characters are showing a huge sign of weakness.

WCC failed to break 55% against a high fodder(MG character) in the day and right now L-Block couldn't even put on a respectable performance against Issac who was once doubled by 2008 Altair.

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/24/2010 3:35:28 AM | message detail
Joke characters are strong only in their first time in a contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 5:35:01 AM | message detail
Yeah, this match has barely budged the entire time. Barely a difference of 1% between L-Block's highest and lowest percentages here.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/24/2010 5:37:08 AM | message detail
Vi

From: KamikazePotato | #024
Who ya got in a rematch?


Vice City beat a pretty credit game in Prime and did a good number on MGS2 while Star Wars lost to Halo.

I'd feel pretty good about VC but not utterly confident.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 5:48:32 AM | message detail
Well, according to the 2009 Games Contest XStats...!

Oh wait, we don't have those on the Wiki anywhere! I know I made some!

Looking over the archives:

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Sure did. Speaking of which, do you think you could send over your final Xes for '09 when you get a moment? (ngamer@gmail.com) I promise I won't delay putting them up for as long as I have the 2008 stats!


Ngaaaaameerrrrrrrr
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 6:25:19 AM | message detail
After spending way too much time going through old stats topics, I can only conclude that I never finished my Games Contest stats! Did someone make them?

I did find this gem of a Games Contest Finals match pic that Kleenex made though:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 6:26:57 AM | message detail
44. GTA: Vice City – 25.01%
50. Star Wars: KotOR – 23.81%

Pretty close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 6:35:24 AM | message detail
Apparently, I did make upper half stats at the end of the first semifinal, but I didn't make any for the second half or the final result of the contest!

Upper Half Stats

Final Fantasy VII – 50.00%
A Link to the Past – 36.61%
Super Mario 64 – 36.42%
Super Mario World – 36.00%
Chrono Trigger – 35.36%
Super Mario Bros. 3 – 34.82%
Final Fantasy VI – 33.34%
GoldenEye 007 – 33.03%
Super Mario Bros. (Round 2) – 32.94%
Super Mario RPG – 30.94%
Super Mario Bros. (Round 3) – 30.84%
Link’s Awakening – 30.60%
The Legend of Zelda – 30.10%
Mario Kart 64 – 29.98%
Final Fantasy – 28.13%
Final Fantasy IV – 26.86%
Resident Evil 2 – 25.81%
Mega Man X – 25.39%
Symphony of the Night – 23.72%
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 – 22.63%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 22.07%
Resident Evil – 22.07%
Mega Man 3 – 22.06%
Super Metroid – 22.01%
Super Mario Kart – 21.96%
Tetris – 20.93%
Star Fox 64 – 20.86%
Yoshi’s Island – 20.25%
Mortal Kombat II – 20.21%
Street Fighter II – 19.63%
Mega Man 2 – 18.96%
The Secret of Mana – 18.61%
Donkey Kong Country – 17.76%
Doom – 17.40%
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 16.25%
Battletoads – 16.02%
Earthbound – 14.79%
Metroid – 14.56%
The Oregon Trail – 14.29%
Kirby Super Star – 13.85%
Donkey Kong Country 2 – 13.50%
Pac-Man – 12.11%
Pong – 12.08%
Donkey Kong – 11.30%
Suikoden – 11.10%
Contra – 10.72%
Punch-Out!! – 10.47%
Ninja Gaiden – 10.45%
Streets of Rage II – 9.33%
Duck Hunt – 9.01%
River City Ransom – 8.90%
Civilization – 8.41%
The Secret of Monkey Island – 7.92%
Castlevania III – 7.82%
SimCity – 7.28%
Dragon Warrior III – 6.73%
Shining Force II – 6.71%
Phantasy Star IV – 6.01%
Space Invaders – 5.82%
Galaga – 5.63%
Gunstar Heroes – 5.17%
The Prince of Persia – 5.05%
Lufia II – 4.76%
Tecmo Super Bowl – 4.76%
Crystalis – 3.93%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 6:46:08 AM | message detail
Oh, and I have bottom quarter stats as well! I guess if I get bored, I can work all these things together and make the final stats a year later!

Third Quarter Stats

Ocarina of Time – 50.00%
Super Smash Bros. Melee – 37.28%
Final Fantasy X – 36.93%
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow – 36.90%
Metal Gear Solid – 35.11%
Kingdom Hearts (Round 2) – 34.60%
Kingdom Hearts (Round 3) – 33.17%
Pokemon Gold/Silver – 32.57%
Final Fantasy VIII – 31.41%
Final Fantasy IX – 28.40%
Metal Gear Solid 2 – 27.87%
Majora’s Mask – 27.49%
Vice City – 26.71%
Final Fantasy Tactics – 26.57%
The Wind Waker – 25.91%
Diablo II – 25.37%
Metroid Prime – 25.34%
StarCraft – 25.20%
Halo – 24.63%
Knights of the Old Republic – 24.02%
Grand Theft Auto III – 22.65%
Half-Life – 21.30%
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind – 20.13%
Paper Mario – 18.39%
Disgaea – 17.71%
Chrono Cross – 16.10%
SoulCalibur – 16.01%
Perfect Dark – 14.22%
Xenogears – 13.91%
Fire Emblem – 13.63%
Silent Hill 2 – 12.14%
Deus Ex – 11.97%
Banjo-Kazooie – 11.15%

Fourth Quarter Stats

Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 50.00%
Metal Gear Solid 4 – 42.03%
Twilight Princess – 38.96%
Resident Evil 4 – 37.75%
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 37.50%
Kingdom Hearts II – 37.21%
Fallout 3 – 35.58%
Super Mario Galaxy – 33.88%
Oblivion – 32.99%
Tales of Symphonia – 31.85%
God of War – 31.72%
World of Warcraft – 31.35%
Call of Duty 4 – 31.00%
Portal – 30.99%
San Andreas – 30.75%
Grand Theft Auto IV – 30.44%
Half-Life 2 – 30.44%
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl – 30.23%
BioShock – 29.61%
Final Fantasy XII – 29.36%
Halo 3 – 29.34%
Halo 2 – 28.59%
Shadow of the Colossus – 26.37%
Okami – 26.08%
Left 4 Dead – 24.74%
Street Fighter IV – 22.14%
Persona 4 – 22.13%
Gears of War – 21.80%
Mass Effect – 20.01%
Team Fortress 2 – 19.60%
LittleBigPlanet – 17.68%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 17.59%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 6:47:32 AM | message detail
(By the way, don't expect those stats to be any kind of accurate: All adjustments were made based on real match data, so something like Melee > FFX > RBY probably wouldn't hold true, but I can't do much to fix it without making arbitrary adjustments)
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/24/2010 7:06:16 AM | message detail

Final Fantasy VII – 50.00%
A Link to the Past – 36.61%


DAMNITT
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Master Moltar | Posted 2/24/2010 7:48:08 AM | message detail
Heart Division: Round 2 - Match 80 – (7) Charizard vs. (2) Kratos

Moltar’s Analysis

Charizard
Round 1 - 64.25% vs. Duke

Charizard beastin’

Kratos
Round 1 - 60.98% vs. Tails

Kratos disappointin’

Charizard crushing Duke was definitely impressive. However, since then we’ve seen Altair bomb against Vivi, who Duke narrowly beat in 2008. Is it right to call Altair’s performance a bomb though? I mean, I certainly didn’t expect him to be worth 45% on Vivi pre-contest.

Kratos failing to crush Tails was definitely not impressive. However, since then we’ve seen Ammy, who is a bit stronger than Shadow, do very well on Luigi, somewhat vindicating Sonic Team. Does this mean that all three members of the Knuckles/Shadow/Tails trio are all midcarders? I’m a bit hesitant to put Tails that high because in recent times, he has not looked as good as he did many years ago when he was doing good against Dante or Auron.

This should be a fairly close match. Charizard has the advantage and momentum going into the match. Altair and Kefka had good contest runs, and Niko had reason to fall off the face of the Earth. His beatdown of Duke, even with the picture disadvantage, won many people over. Meanwhile, the jury is still out on Sonic Team, but Kratos’s performance against Tails may not be as bad as it seemed. Still, it’s an iffy performance, and I’ll go with the one that was ‘impressive’ over the one that was ‘iffy’. I like Charizard here more at the moment.

Also, I’ve gotten the last match of every division in Round 2 wrong so far in my bracket. Today, the trend must continue!

Moltar’s Bracket: Kratos > Charizard

Moltar’s Prediction: Charizard: 52% - Kratos: 48%



Lopen’s Analysis

http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/God-of-War-Slurpee.jpg

Now I'm not going to say the GoW3 hype machine has even come close to the Halo 3 hype machine, but man just look at those things. They're awesome. It's definitely in motion, though I don't think it's going to help Kratos much this match. Not just yet.

Thing is, although Charizard vs Duke was a pseudo debatable match when the contest started, he didn't really hit that level to put Kratos at a decisive disadvantage. That whole Link division from last year has ended up looking pretty crappy... and sure, Sonic team has too but what can you do. Way I see it, I think of it this way: Duke vs Tails who you got? If Duke was an overwhelming favorite when the contest started in that match, I'd be pretty surprised.

Now throw in Mr Prower's ability to seemingly look great against badasses as we saw back in 2004 against Dante, and you've gotta wonder if Charizard really looked better last round.

I don't think he did. This'll be a somewhat close one, but I like Kratos here. Hype (though not in full force) on his side and all the factors in the r1 matches point towards his performance being the more impressive one.

Lopen's prediction:
Kratos with 53.99%



Transience’s Analysis

Big match today! With neither Bowser nor Sora really impressing, could Charizard or Kratos take the division?

Kratos was the favourite pre-contest due to being an established character. Kratos vs. Mewtwo would be a tossup, so unless Charizard was stronger than Mewtwo, Kratos was the way to go. Kratos kind of bombed his r1 match though and looks very vulnerable.

Charizard had a pretty big range. Some thought he'd lose to Duke Nukem while others thought he'd storm the division. Charizard went and nearly doubled Duke Nukem, leading most to believe that he'd beat Kratos easily.
Master Moltar | Posted 2/24/2010 7:48:32 AM | message detail
I wasn't as impressed as others were though. I think last year's first division is way overrated. Altair bombed, Zack got somewhat exposed and Duke Nukem lost badly. Some people think Duke Nukem has strength, but that's just because of fortunate bracket placement and the fourway format. Duke Nukem is the perfect character to overperform in a fourway setting thanks to his joke appeal. I would take Tails to beat Duke Nukem even with how bad Sonic Team has been sucking it up.

Ultimately, I think this match is a tossup and I'm going to support the god of war. I'm not 100% sold on Charizard. Kratos has been sucking it up his last few contest matches, but I'll hesitantly back him. Hopefully God of War 3 hype has reached some people. Doubtful, but I just don't trust the 'zard.

transience's prediction: Kratos with 51.95%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Quickie w/ Ng: Every trend in the world appears to be going against Kratos and in favor of The 'Zard. So why can't I shake the feeling that this'll still be a dogfight?

Ngamer Says: Charizard > Kratos, 54.09%



Kleenex’s Analysis

Gross.

I'm going down with this sinking ship, and I will keep doing so until I am right.

Down with Pokemon.

Bracket: Kratos
Favorites: Kratos
Prediction: Kratos with 51.78%



Red Sox’s Analysis

Here was one of the most highly anticipated matches in the second round before the contest. Kratos was the favorite then- but after seeing Charizard get 64% on Duke at night despite an awesome American flag background picture for Duke, and Kratos proceeding to barely break 60% on Tails- the excitement for this has completely died down. Everyone has more or less conceded Charizard's victory, and the only question whether he'll win by enough to win the division over Bowser, Sora, and L-Block. After Sora did badly against Laharl, I think Charizard's the favorite now. Duke looks a lot worse than before now though, after seeing Zack and Altair in round 2, which is a matter for some concern, but Charizard still should look pretty good.

Prediction: Charizard with 60.24%
Upset Potential: 5%
Upper Bound: Charizard with 65%
Lower Bound: Charizard with 55%



Crew Consensus: We are split on this big match
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2010 7:49:17 AM | message detail
So what kind of lead does Charizard need at the freeze for you guys to feel comfortable Kratos doesn't win?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 7:50:42 AM | message detail
Charizard has one of the best board votes while Kratos has one of the worst. I'll go the safe route and say at least 60%
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Character Battle VIII - 75/92 - Today's Winners: HK-47 and Kratos
charmander6000 | Posted 2/24/2010 7:53:11 AM | message detail
Match LXXX: (7) Charizard vs. (2) Kratos

Last Round

Charizard – 64.25%
Duke Nukem – 35.75%

Kratos – 60.98%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 39.02%

Analysis

Pre-contest this match was pretty debatable, but a one, two punch in the form of Charizard over performing and Kratos underperforming has caused the debates to drop dramatically. It’s pretty hard to argue for Kratos when he arguably had one of the worst flops of the round. While a lot of people have flipped in their support of which character will win I still believe that Kratos will put up a decent performance and that some people may be overrating Charizard a bit.

Duke Nukem getting crushed was pretty shocking, but some people are treating that performance puts him at around Vincent or Squall level. Duke Nukem is a low mid-card and while I’m not taking anything away from Charizard that still puts him at around Zack’s level which is very decent, just not elite. As for this match Charizard should be the favourite, Kratos would probably have failed to break the percent last year.

I’m still in disbelief on how badly Kratos performed last round. Sure Knuckles and Shadow look a lot better now than they did in the first round due to their opponents looking better, but Tails would have needed a crazy boost to not make Kratos look bad in this match. Adding Charizard’s performance on Duke Nukem and we have an upset waiting to happen. The only way for Kratos to have a chance is if God of War 3 hype has gone up exponentially since the last round or if some kind of contest Gods causes the upset to happen.

Charizard has every reason to win yet there’s a chance that our original favourite will win. I don’t really know how to describe it, but I just can’t see Charizard winning this match. If he does I’ll be hysterical, but I’m going to side with my bracket on this one.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kratos > Charizard

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kratos wins, 52.15% - 47.85%

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Character Battle VIII - 75/92 - Today's Winners: HK-47 and Kratos
voltch | Posted 2/24/2010 7:55:36 AM | message detail
Charizard breaks minimum 57% at the freeze and i'll declare a victoly for him.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/24/2010 7:56:46 AM | message detail
Oh thank god.

If the Crew was decisively in favor of Charizard, I would be worried. But saying Kratos still has a chance and this could be close? That's a recipe for Zard busting out 60%!

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