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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:39:19 PM | message detail

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For some reason I thought Samus went against Sephiroth. My b.

Oh right, it was Link vs. Mario finals.

So I change my mind -- if Sonic had beaten Samus I think he would have beaten Link because of the vast amount of support there would have been towards a Mario vs. Sonic finals. It would have been so fitting.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:40:39 PM | message detail

are you watchign the same match I am?

Bowser isn't crushing Kefka with the ASV, so what?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:41:42 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #052
are you watchign the same match I am?

Bowser isn't crushing Kefka with the ASV, so what?

uh... yes he is.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:42:33 PM | message detail

Sweet Jesus.

I guess this confirms that Kefka got a hefty boost, so Arthas may not be as trash as we thought.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:43:09 PM | message detail

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:44:28 PM | message detail

Or do you consider Kefka losing .80% in an hour not being crushed?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:44:34 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #047
Oh I know that he would have lost to Link in the finals -- but he would have made it there. I'm sure of it. He might even have won by being the iconic figure in the finals. But you never know now because he got cheated out of his place.

With every advance in defence there is another advance in offence. The reality is that security will always be one step behind, because you can't create security against a threat you don't know about yet. Chances are there are ways of stuffing that SBallin' or whoever created the security for the site hasn't encountered yet. I know my fair share of pokemon players and a lot of the ones online are very skilled with hacking and computer science.

You're going to tell me that people rallied 20,000+ votes? I doubt it very much.

To be fair, the one cheating method that still works is something anyone can do. Who really knows.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:45:42 PM | message detail

Do you even remember how bad Kefka is in the day?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:46:16 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #058
Do you even remember how bad Kefka is in the day?

yes, which is why I called for him to finish under 38% after asv.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:46:42 PM | message detail

Kefka won't be below 38% when this is over.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:46:55 PM | message detail

*ASV is over.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:47:36 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #060
Kefka won't be below 38% when this is over.

He's averaging 34-38% an update. He will.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:48:48 PM | message detail

He's averaged just below 38% so far this hour.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:49:24 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #063
He's averaged just below 38% so far this hour.

Cuz he had some obvious cheating spikes. He had a 289 vote update when hes averaging about 220 all the other updates.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:51:19 PM | message detail

What? He who? Kefka? Didn't we just finish saying that cheating is very unlikely to happen.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:52:36 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #065
What? He who? Kefka? Didn't we just finish saying that cheating is very unlikely to happen.

YEs Kefka. He had one update about 60-70 votes over all the other updates. If thats not cheating I don't know what is!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:52:50 PM | message detail

Besides shouldn't you take into account Kefka's spikes anyways?
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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 12:54:20 PM | message detail

Even if Kefka falls short of 38 by the time the poll ends, it's still a pretty good performance vs Bowser isn't it?

Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 12:55:08 PM | message detail

YEs Kefka. He had one update about 60-70 votes over all the other updates. If thats not cheating I don't know what is!

How about "people are random"?

...I mean who would cheat in a match that isn't even close?

HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 12:55:12 PM | message detail

So I change my mind -- if Sonic had beaten Samus I think he would have beaten Link

Haha.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:55:48 PM | message detail

From: Haguile | #069
YEs Kefka. He had one update about 60-70 votes over all the other updates. If thats not cheating I don't know what is!

How about "people are random"?

...I mean who would cheat in a match that isn't even close?

oh hey there battletoads
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:56:29 PM | message detail

Albion has never fully grasped the concept of random variation well.

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:57:25 PM | message detail

oh hey there battletoads

Rallying = cheating now?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:58:24 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #073
oh hey there battletoads

Rallying = cheating now?

you honestly do not think 4chan are upstanding citizens that would never consider cheating, only rallying
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:59:24 PM | message detail

you honestly do not think 4chan are upstanding citizens that would never consider cheating, only rallying

You honestly do not think the cheating votes were not caught?
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 12:59:39 PM | message detail

Even if Kefka falls short of 38 by the time the poll ends, it's still a pretty good performance vs Bowser isn't it?

Really, just outdoing Frog is pretty impressive -- especially since he won a vote-in over Rikku and CTDS was released after our last Character Battle, though it apparently did nothing for CT's crew -- and Frog was just under 37% on Bowser. Kefka is definitively beating Frog.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:00:08 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #075
you honestly do not think 4chan are upstanding citizens that would never consider cheating, only rallying

You honestly do not think the cheating votes were not caught?

bacon said that cheating votes for missingno were not found

i think thats about all that needs to be said about his ability to catch cheating.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:01:11 PM | message detail

If cheating is so easy why don't you do it?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:01:27 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #078
If cheating is so easy why don't you do it?

"if murdering is so easy why don't you do it?"
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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 1:02:06 PM | message detail

bacon said that cheating votes for missingno were not found

i think thats about all that needs to be said about his ability to catch cheating.

What he said was "more attempted cheating votes for Crono were found than for Missingno."

So yes, he did catch some for Missingno.

You know...Just throwing some crazy idea out here:

Maybe, just maybe, Missingno actually won fair and square?

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:03:18 PM | message detail

From: Haguile | #080
bacon said that cheating votes for missingno were not found

i think thats about all that needs to be said about his ability to catch cheating.

What he said was "more attempted cheating votes for Crono were found than for Missingno."

So yes, he did catch some for Missingno.

You know...Just throwing some crazy idea out here:

Maybe, just maybe, Missingno actually won fair and square?

He spiked every time that Crono challenged him, and went insane at the end of the match to seal it. Thats not random variation; thats intentional variation.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:04:17 PM | message detail

"if murdering is so easy why don't you do it?"

???

Except I believe that murdering is possible while cheating here is not.
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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 1:04:30 PM | message detail

Really, just outdoing Frog is pretty impressive -- especially since he won a vote-in over Rikku and CTDS was released after our last Character Battle, though it apparently did nothing for CT's crew -- and Frog was just under 37% on Bowser. Kefka is definitively beating Frog.
Hm the only problem is that maybe CT dropped this year. We'll see how much the CT got weaker. If Missingno has trouble with Yoshi, then Kefka is not really that impressive. If he destroys him, then Crono was still relevant, and Missingno and Kefka are just that good.

charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:05:14 PM | message detail

He spiked every time that Crono challenged him, and went insane at the end of the match to seal it. Thats not random variation; thats intentional variation.

Or you know people start rallying harder when their efforts are enough.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:05:29 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #082
"if murdering is so easy why don't you do it?"

???

Except I believe that murdering is possible while cheating here is not.

My point is that just because something can be done easily doesn't mean you want to do it. Plus, I was already banned once for cheating back in 2004, so that has kinda scared me off from doing it again.
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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 1:05:53 PM | message detail

He spiked every time that Crono challenged him, and went insane at the end of the match to seal it. Thats not random variation; thats intentional variation.

Can't you turn that argument around and say that Crono was the one cheating?
You seriously think that the one considered the favorite by the brackets and with more die hard fans has no chance at all of having cheated?

charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:06:09 PM | message detail

Time | Bowser
1:00 | 59.00%
2:00 | 59.08%
3:00 | 60.64%
4:00 | 62.53%

Bowser isn't going to break 62% at this rate.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 1:06:45 PM | message detail

*facepalms at this last page*

But seriously, Kefka is so awful with the day vote that he could lose it to virtually anyone at this point. Even Frog managed to stalemate Bowser somewhat compared to this.

62.53% for Bowser in that last hour, by the way.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/23/2010 1:09:51 PM | message detail

Considering how weak the ASV has been lately, 59% to 62.50% is pretty damn noteworthy
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:11:01 PM | message detail

Man, Cecil has a monster ASV compared to Kefka.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:11:19 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #089
Considering how weak the ASV has been lately, 59% to 62.50% is pretty damn noteworthy

Thats basically my point. In an ASV dilluted format, a jump of 3.5% and possibly more in upcoming hours is as much as you can hope for.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 1:14:42 PM | message detail

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3807&region=US

Kefka is already under 38% in US, and has been dropping like a rock. He was at about 39% an hour ago.
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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 1:16:47 PM | message detail

You know, I wish that in the next CB we had to predict who was going to win in each continent instead of just a general prediction.

That would make it much harder to predict anything. I doubt there would be perfect brackets for more than 2 or 3 rounds.

WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:17:02 PM | message detail

Bowser with a 67% upset.

Jesus Christ Kefka.
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voltch | Posted 2/23/2010 1:17:12 PM | message detail

when 13 messages are ignored on the page, you know that Doctor Voltch is not a happy bunny, we need to sterelize the CS&D institution.
I see leonhart is already facepalming and I say screw you guys making leon facepalm and talkin bout murder, this is the CS&D and some guys here are trying to discuss, not blabber.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 1:17:15 PM | message detail

Now if only Bowser acted like a normal Nintendo-character and dominated with the ASV, this would be even more fun to watch.

We should have had Kefka face Charizard and Kratos face Bowser.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:17:23 PM | message detail

North America still has 61.3%

Yeah Canada.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:18:19 PM | message detail

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3807&region=ASI

'woah'
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/23/2010 1:20:12 PM | message detail

Canada isn't pushing Bowser as hard as the USA? That doesn't make any sense because we're Nintendo crazy here.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 1:20:57 PM | message detail

Canada isn't pushing Bowser as hard as the USA? That doesn't make any sense because we're Nintendo crazy here.

Canada loves Kefka and Chrono Trigger.
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