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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 847

UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 9:47:00 AM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 9:47:37 AM | message detail
Lightning in a bottle, earthquake in a can!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 11:57:59 AM | message detail
Isaac.
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Me_Pie_Three | Posted 2/23/2010 11:58:06 AM | message detail
Isaac ftw
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 11:59:51 AM | message detail
Kefka is just gonna have to prove to me he doesn't have the worst asv in the business anymore before I give him a pass to stay over 38% here.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:00:26 PM | message detail
ulti, always so negative. smile!

Being honest is not being negative by any stretch. Lumpy is no competition for anyone in the real world. That's a fact, not some myopic world view. Plus he knows he can't post anything remarkably borderline without getting suspended, so if anything I'm having more fun than usual at his expense =p
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:01:49 PM | message detail
Being honest is not being negative by any stretch.

Well, there's being honest and then there's throwing things around about people to discredit them.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:02:20 PM | message detail
As I was saying Cecil is a high midcarder as shown by his ASV which is a billion times better than Kefka's apparently.

(what)
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:03:22 PM | message detail
Calling someone stupid when he complimented you just because he didn't press the spacebar a few times sounds pretty negative to me.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:04:28 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #007
Being honest is not being negative by any stretch.

Well, there's being honest and then there's throwing things around about people to discredit them.


Hey, I'm trying to help him get off his lazy tail and get a job. I'm all about helping the needy, as evidenced by my career choice.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:05:18 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #010
Hey, I'm trying to help him get off his lazy tail and get a job. I'm all about helping the needy, as evidenced by my career choice.


Yeah, the way you said it really makes it obvious that you're trying to help him.

But really, that's not the point.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:05:30 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #009
Calling someone stupid when he complimented you just because he didn't press the spacebar a few times sounds pretty negative to me.


It's more the guy never even answers the question, which I find amazing.

But yes, thanks to everyone for the compliments on the list. I agree #10 is kind of a stretch, but hey.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:06:08 PM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #498
I want GoW3 so bad.

You want BioShock more! I promise!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 12:06:47 PM | message detail
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I just realized for my very first time he has legs in this picture.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:08:10 PM | message detail
Is CVX the last RE game you have left?

Gonna play 5 again afterwards, but yeah. I'm itching to get Raven 2 his games back.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:08:23 PM | message detail
He has stalks, not legs.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:08:48 PM | message detail
Kefka is averaging 35-38% an update for the last half an hour. If thats about what he gets for the next 6 hours, he may be under 38% afterall, no?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:09:01 PM | message detail
And since nobody answered these in the last topic, I'll post them again!

Fact/Fiction: L-Block does better on Isaac than it did on L-Block
Fact/Fiction: Charizard breaks 60% on Kratos
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:09:52 PM | message detail
Fiction. Isaac is probably stronger than Hk.
Fiction. I'd say Zard will get 55-57%
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:09:57 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #018
And since nobody answered these in the last topic, I'll post them again!

Fact/Fiction: L-Block does better on Isaac than it did on L-Block
Fact/Fiction: Charizard breaks 60% on Kratos


N/A, since L-Block can't do better on Isaac than itself.
I... really want to say fact, but I can't. I think 55-45.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:09:58 PM | message detail
Charizard breaking 60% of Kratos = GG Link, better luck next year!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:10:02 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #017
Kefka is averaging 35-38% an update for the last half an hour. If thats about what he gets for the next 6 hours, he may be under 38% afterall, no?


More like almost exactly 38%
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/23/2010 12:10:09 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:12:31 PM | message detail
Good gravy, when was Charizard 60-40ing Kratos considered not only possible but somewhat likely? Charizard could win easily here and people are going to call him a disappointment if he doesn't blow out Kratos.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:14:31 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #024
Good gravy, when was Charizard 60-40ing Kratos considered not only possible but somewhat likely? Charizard could win easily here and people are going to call him a disappointment if he doesn't blow out Kratos.

I don't know but I love that people are giving him a real chance against Sora.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:16:04 PM | message detail
After Kratos only got 60% on Tails, Charizard getting 60% on Kratos seemed like a possibility. It's more of an extreme prediction more than anything else though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:16:38 PM | message detail
Hey look, it's after 3 and now Kefka has gone up by .01% since!

Whoo, Kefka with the ASV!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:19:05 PM | message detail
Assume Bowser upsets Sora.

Bowser vs THE ZARD. Who wins?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/23/2010 12:20:13 PM | message detail
The idea of Charizard beating Bowser always seemed so weird to me, but we'll see.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:22:09 PM | message detail
Decent list Ulti, but Sonic vs. Samus is too low on the list. Should be top 3.

That said...I think everyone should cut Albion some slack.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:22:20 PM | message detail
Depends on how well Charizard does on Kratos, but HG/SS coming out on the day of the match is one of those one-in-a-million chance things. Anything could happen.

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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:23:10 PM | message detail
Also I don't think it would be much of an upset at this point if Bowser beat Sora since Sora has been underwhelming.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:23:41 PM | message detail
I really don't think that HG/SS coming out on the day of the match is going to affect the match at all.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 12:24:03 PM | message detail
Fiction - two words: Assist Trophy. Not really, but I'd probably take him to beat HK-47.
Fiction - it's not impossible, but I need to see it to believe it.

Logically, I'd favor Bowser if he faces Charizard...but instinctively, Charizard has a serious shot if it gets to that point.
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Jmast7 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:24:29 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #031
Depends on how well Charizard does on Kratos, but HG/SS coming out on the day of the match is one of those one-in-a-million chance things. Anything could happen.


Maybe all the Pokefans will be too excited to play their new game to vote. <_<
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:25:06 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #030
Decent list Ulti, but Sonic vs. Samus is too low on the list. Should be top 3.

That said...I think everyone should cut Albion some slack.


I cut him a LOT of slack. I know full if he's being serious or not. And Sonic/Samus is just too dirty to put high up. The whole 2 hour delay thing, plus Samus clearly cheating and not getting caught rubs me the wrong way. I remember that match very clearly, and Samus cut 1500 votes to tie in two hours, followed by an hour-long tie to end the poll. That's impossible to do legit.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:25:36 PM | message detail
full well*, rather
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:26:06 PM | message detail
I'm a bit excited for tonight because The Boss just proved that jokes can be transitive, and it's the first fair match Isaac has ever had. Well, so was Layton, but it was hard to get a read off of him from Layton.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/23/2010 12:26:53 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: L-Block does better on Isaac than it did on L-Block
Fact/Fiction: Charizard breaks 60% on Kratos


N/A
Fiction. After that abysmal performance against Tails, I would be inclined to say Fact, but.... I just can't.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:27:25 PM | message detail
I don't see how L loses, but it would be a hilarious upset.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:27:28 PM | message detail
I know. But that's why it should be higher. The first real confirmed case of cheating on the site that the administrators refused to deal with.

I mean, it's the same situation as the MssingNo match against Crono. Everyone knows that MissingNo cheated whether or not SBallin' confirms it (or says the opposite).

But Sonic vs. Samus was a very big cheatfest and cheated Sonic out of only shot ever at reaching the final. (I'm convinced he would have beaten Sephiroth.)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:28:23 PM | message detail
I don't think L *loses*, but Isaac doing well isn't out of the question!

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Haguile | Posted 2/23/2010 12:28:57 PM | message detail
Why is it assumed that MissingNo cheated? Can't it just be that people...Found the joke funny, and rallied for it?
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/23/2010 12:30:21 PM | message detail

From: Haguile | #043
Why is it assumed that MissingNo cheated? Can't it just be that people...Found the joke funny, and rallied for it?


No one thinks Missingno cheated. That's just Curt being Curt.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2010 12:31:02 PM | message detail
The current security measures are almost impossible to break, so I'm 99% sure Missingno won legit. But on the subject of 2002, Sonic would not have beaten Link that year. Sephiroth maybe, but Link is just way out of his league.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2010 12:33:50 PM | message detail
Missingno was suspicious, but if he won and SB confirmed it was legit, who are we to continue doubting it? Really guys, especially since the match was hyped, Missingno killed in the vote-ins despite two other Pokemon and Toad in the poll, and somebody pointed out Missingno had a lot of Twitter-support (I bet he's had the most support from Twitter of any character thus far, honestly, though who knows if that means much).
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/23/2010 12:36:05 PM | message detail
Oh I know that he would have lost to Link in the finals -- but he would have made it there. I'm sure of it. He might even have won by being the iconic figure in the finals. But you never know now because he got cheated out of his place.

With every advance in defence there is another advance in offence. The reality is that security will always be one step behind, because you can't create security against a threat you don't know about yet. Chances are there are ways of stuffing that SBallin' or whoever created the security for the site hasn't encountered yet. I know my fair share of pokemon players and a lot of the ones online are very skilled with hacking and computer science.

You're going to tell me that people rallied 20,000+ votes? I doubt it very much.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:37:18 PM | message detail
I don't know why people expect the ASV to be a large factor anymore. In a normal 24 hour match over half the votes are cast during the first 12 hours. Comparing the night/day vote totals about 33% of the votes for day matches are coming from people that usually vote in the night in 24 hour matches.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/23/2010 12:37:23 PM | message detail
...you do know that Sonic was on the same side of the bracket as Link in 2k2, right?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/23/2010 12:38:09 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #048
I don't know why people expect the ASV to be a large factor anymore


are you watchign the same match I am?
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