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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 846

UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 8:04:58 PM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 8:05:50 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG7lvNkyPZs#t=15
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:07:13 PM | message detail
I know now, without a doubt, Kingdom Hearts...is waffles!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 9:08:50 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 9:09:09 PM | message detail
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The Contest Blues.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 9:09:31 PM | message detail
Bowser > Sora
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Haguile | Posted 2/22/2010 9:09:34 PM | message detail
How in the world is someone who lost to Vyse not being humiliated by Sora?
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/22/2010 9:09:48 PM | message detail
Inc 2% boost update
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:17 PM | message detail
DID I CALL IT?!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:22 PM | message detail
Mushroom Division Fourth Quarter

Ryu Hayabusa – 50.00%
Master Chief – 47.44%
Crash Bandicoot – 38.21%
Spy – 37.74%

Crash gets 50.62% on Spy and 40.27% on Master Chief.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:33 PM | message detail
You called it. Maybe Sora will get 70% after all (which is still terrible).
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creativename | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:34 PM | message detail
In 2003, Golden Sun was most definitely obscure. Felix did well because of the picture and being Not Chief for a day.

Utterly untrue.

There's a reason that match was mega-hyped pre-contest as everyone's Upset Special. Felix was not some jobber. That's just revisionist history.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:45 PM | message detail
Sorry, it was 2.02%. Close, but no cigar.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:46 PM | message detail

From: Haguile | #007
How in the world is someone who lost to Vyse not being humiliated by Sora?


Laharl has gotten stronger over the years while Vyse has dropped off.

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:48 PM | message detail
k Sora might hit 70 after all
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/22/2010 9:10:49 PM | message detail
Nice try Laharl
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 9:11:03 PM | message detail
I just remembered Sora/Bowser is a night match and that Bowser has a decent night vote for a Ninty guy. Could be trouble.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:11:07 PM | message detail
Wow 2%
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/22/2010 9:11:14 PM | message detail
How in the world is someone who lost to Vyse not being humiliated by Sora?

Good question.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:11:23 PM | message detail
I think Laharl probably is stronger. Prinny did well enough for me to think it's a good possibility, at least.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 9:11:31 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2096

Yoshi > Sora lol
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:12:03 PM | message detail
Oh, and Laharl beats Vyse easily now. Vyse 2004 was equal to Duke Nukem, which isn't great overall, but for a cult guy like Vyse, that's quite good.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/22/2010 9:12:45 PM | message detail
Laharl looked stronger last year anyway. Hanging with Hogger and Ramza is still better than the garbage performances he had before that.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:12:46 PM | message detail
There's a reason that match was mega-hyped pre-contest as everyone's Upset Special. Felix was not some jobber. That's just revisionist history.

Well, I took it (and voted for Felix) purely out of hate for Xbox/Chief, and I'm sure a lot of others thought the same way. Isaac's 25% on Samus was really impressive though, yeah.
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creativename | Posted 2/22/2010 9:12:49 PM | message detail
Sora won't match people's expectations - he should rise some, but he'll likely crumble during the dead hours.

But he's just not that good in the first 12 hours. There's probably a good 2% difference in his x-stat strength in the first 12 to the second 12 hours, would be my guess.

Are his matches with Bowser and potential match with Charizard night or day matches?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 9:13:22 PM | message detail
Sora (2007c) VS Laharl (2007c)

Sora has a strength of 25.52.
Laharl has a strength of 11.23.

Sora wins with 78.00% of the vote!
A win of 78,296 with 139,826 total votes cast.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:03 PM | message detail
Bowser is night, Charizard is day (of HG/SS release)
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:10 PM | message detail
Bowser's at night and Charizard would be during the day.
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creativename | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:19 PM | message detail
Isaac's 25% on Samus was really impressive though, yeah.

Bingo. We're debating stuff that was disproven easily years and years ago.

Yet another contest "Zombie myth" - a falsehood that just refuses to die.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:42 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #026
Sora (2007c) VS Laharl (2007c)

Sora has a strength of 25.52.
Laharl has a strength of 11.23.

Sora wins with 78.00% of the vote!
A win of 78,296 with 139,826 total votes cast.


You REALLY don't get it, do you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:50 PM | message detail
Dante tripled Laharl last year, for what it's worth.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 9:14:55 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #025
Are his matches with Bowser and potential match with Charizard night or day matches?


Bowser = night
Char = day
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creativename | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:12 PM | message detail
Bowser's got a good chance then.

I don't know if Bowser has the same strength he used to, though.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:28 PM | message detail
I would've thought the 'Golden Sun is super obscure!' talks would've died down after this happened:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3512

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:33 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #031
Dante tripled Laharl last year, for what it's worth.


And I'd take Sora and Dante to be a good match. So regardless, this is a bad showing for Sora. Very bad. I'd gotta favor Bowser after this.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:34 PM | message detail
and... a huge Laharl cut.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:37 PM | message detail
Yeah anyone calling Golden Sun unknown in 2003 either has bad memory or doesn't know what they are talking about.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:39 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #012
In 2003, Golden Sun was most definitely obscure. Felix did well because of the picture and being Not Chief for a day.

Utterly untrue.

There's a reason that match was mega-hyped pre-contest as everyone's Upset Special. Felix was not some jobber. That's just revisionist history.


It was the upset special because Felix is Not Chief. I remember 2003 quite clearly.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 9:15:51 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #031
Dante tripled Laharl last year, for what it's worth.


Eh, very few people smash fodder like Dante. 80% against Ratchet was some sick ****.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 9:16:24 PM | message detail
Isaac beat Serge and held close to Lucario. Not exactly the best competition, but he's not pathetic either.

GS has a decent fanbase here, or else Felix would've sucked against even 2003 Chief.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 9:16:38 PM | message detail
I'm not even ruling out Disgaea boosting a bit. Laharl handled Neku in his worst timeframe, and Prinny speaks for itself.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 9:17:05 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #033
I don't know if Bowser has the same strength he used to, though.


That's what I'm hoping for. You can't look at what the Chrono Crew did and then suddenly call Bowser's performance a good one. The guy has looked progressively worse ever since beasting it up in 2005.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:17:15 PM | message detail
Assuming Frog and Magus are equal, Bowser/Alucard goes 55/45. Sound familiar?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2103
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Draco1214 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:17:48 PM | message detail
I remember people were calling for Sora's head after he failed to smash Agent 47, and then he went on to make Alucard look like a joke. Sora just sucks at blowing people out.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 9:17:56 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #038
It was the upset special because Felix is Not Chief. I remember 2003 quite clearly.


That was our reasoning. Doesn't mean it was good reasoning.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 9:18:16 PM | message detail
Disgaea slowly getting more attention between the Games Contest and Laharl's continued presence in the contests makes sense to me. He's become more and more established over the years.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 9:19:05 PM | message detail
So... Is Laharl actually not joke fodder now?
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creativename | Posted 2/22/2010 9:19:17 PM | message detail
It was the upset special because Felix is Not Chief. I remember 2003 quite clearly.

Come on man...just, come on. If Felix was weak he would've been smashed by Chief anyway.

This "anti-vote" stuff is just a part of Chief's inherent strength, it's no different. Dude just isn't that damn popular here. And this was not a surprise in 2k3. Most knew he wouldn't be that popular.

This stuff has been case-closed for years, from the performances that Isaac and Golden Sun has repeatedly put on. And the performances that Chief has put on!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 9:19:34 PM | message detail
Top 10 Changes

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Pokemon Trainer Red – 50.16% vs. Revolver Ocelot – 49.84% (R1) – 0.32%
2. Missingno – 50.29% vs. Crono – 49.71% (R1) – 0.58%
3. Ken – 50.32% vs. Albert Wesker – 49.68% (R1) – 0.64%
4. Ike – 51.55% vs. Zidane Tribal – 48.45% (R2) – 3.10%
5. Knuckles the Echidna – 52.00% vs. Cecil Harvey – 48.00% (R1) – 4.00%
6. The Boss – 52.37% vs. Nathan Drake – 47.63% (R1) – 4.74%
7. Ryu Hayabusa – 52.56% vs. Master Chief – 47.44% (R2) – 5.12%
8. Amaterasu – 52.59% vs. Shadow the Hedgehog – 47.41% (R1) – 5.18%
9. Jecht – 52.70% vs. Phoenix Wright – 47.30% (R1) – 5.40%
10. Gordon Freeman – 53.25% vs. Princess Peach – 46.75% (R1) – 6.50%


Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Ken – 36484 vs. Albert Wesker – 36013 (R1) – 471
2. Missingno – 45804 vs. Crono – 45277 (R1) – 527
3. Ike – 37182 vs. Zidane Tribal – 34953 (R2) – 2229
4. Knuckles the Echidna – 37437 vs. Cecil Harvey – 34558 (R1) – 2879
5. The Boss – 36615 vs. Nathan Drake – 33295 (R1) – 3320
6. Ryu Hayabusa – 39666 vs. Master Chief – 35800 (R2) – 3866
7. Amaterasu – 41994 vs. Shadow the Hedgehog – 37852 (R1) – 4142
8. Gordon Freeman – 41389 vs. Princess Peach – 36330 (R1) – 5059
9. Weighted Companion Cube – 40132 vs. The Boss – 34466 (R2) – 5666
10. Sub-Zero – 41693 vs. Tidus – 35717 (R1) – 5976


Top 10 Most Popular Day Polls
1. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 91081
2. Mega Man X vs. Captain John Price (R1) – 81068
3. Amaterasu vs. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 79846
4. Master Chief vs. Spy (R1) – 78003
5. Kratos vs. Miles “Tails” Prower (R1) – 77724
6. Gordon Freeman vs. Princess Peach (R1) – 77719
7. Mega Man X vs. Pokemon Trainer Red (R2) – 77712
8. Sub-Zero vs. Tidus (R1) – 77410
9. Altair vs. Liquid Snake (R1) – 76041
10. Ryu Hayabusa vs. Master Chief (R2) – 75466


Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Crono (R1) – 45277
2. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 37852
3. Princess Peach (R1) - 36330
4. Albert Wesker (R1) – 36013
5. Master Chief (R2) – 35800
6. Tidus (R1) – 35717
7. Zidane Tribal (R2) – 34953
8. Cecil Harvey (R1) – 34558
9. The Boss (R2) – 34466
10. Nathan Drake (R1) – 33295


Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Laharl (R1) – 31134
2. Ken (R1) – 36484
3. The Boss (R1) – 36615
4. Ike (R2) – 37182
5. Knuckles the Echidna (R1) – 37437
6. Alucard (R1) – 38150
7. Sackboy (R1) – 38845
8. GlaDOS (R1) – 39381
9. Ryu Hayabusa (R2) – 39666
10. Weighted Companion Cube (R2) – 40132


Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Ryu Hayabusa vs. Master Chief (R2) – 15.87%

2. Vivi vs. Altair (R2) – 18.46%
3. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 21.94%
4. Ike vs. Zidane Tribal (R2) – 35.57%
5. Amaterasu vs. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 36.27%
6. Weighted Companion Cube vs. The Boss (R2) – 38.31%
7. Vivi vs. Donkey Kong (R1) – 39.95%
8. Sub-Zero vs. Tidus (R1) – 41.68%
9. The Boss vs. Nathan Drake (R1) – 44.82%
10. Jecht vs. Phoenix Wright (R1) – 45.40%

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 9:19:39 PM | message detail
Laharl hasn't been joke fodder the moment he almost beat Ramza (who then got 39% on Riku).
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