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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 845

EternalxCourage | Posted 2/22/2010 6:27:29 PM | message detail
Well if Ulti can tell and you can't...

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WHAMMY
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/22/2010 6:27:37 PM | message detail
Just don't worry about being wrong and when someone challenges your opinion, don't act like you know more than you actually do.

When I was new I just basically lurked and then posted on only what I was positive about.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:29:03 PM | message detail
From: EternalxCourage | #341
Realize that self-righteous (yet often ignorant and silly looking) people like ngirl will always be around acting elitist

From: EternalxCourage | #349
You can also tell that the people that act elitist in this topic (names wont be given) actually believe in that elitism.

10 minutes later you're trying to take some sort of higher ground. Really?
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:30:20 PM | message detail
You can tell there's a large difference from when I'm just kidding around, or trolling (acting elitist) and when I'm not.

I actually can't tell in your case. Although, I have a hard time detecting sarcasm or people being facetious in general, so........

I don't think you act elitist in this topic anyway. Stubborn and extremely insistent on using ramming the same arguments that no one buys down our throats yes, elitist no.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/22/2010 6:32:13 PM | message detail
Yeah I don't act elitist except when in specific situations for trolling (like I said).

ngirl what are you on about now? You realize that everyone thinks you're self-righteous, and that you are very elitist.

Calm down people.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 6:33:06 PM | message detail
who the hell is ExternalxCourage anyway? Is he an alt or something?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 6:33:28 PM | message detail
*eternal courage, not external

whatever (external sounds cooler)
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Haguile | Posted 2/22/2010 6:33:57 PM | message detail
Define "all the stats info".

Because I don't buy you're even at 10%


Match analysis from each tournament...Or at least the ones available in the wiki.


1) Learn which characters do well by looking at past results.
2) Figure out why the results are the way it ends up.


I'm on it.

Hang out in here some and we'll definitely drop some science for ya. Many of us have been here for years, several of us since 2002's first contest, and some of us post here every day...so it's no surprise you feel overwhelmed, haha. Feel free to ask questions and post ideas, too...

...just be cool. =)


Haha, I'll be cool I promise!
Though I am known to try to make references to the princess bride when comparing anything to anything, is that a problem?

I think an easy way you could educate yourself daily is to check out the previous polls for each character in each match every day. That'd be four searches a day under this format...and check out the results that come up that interest you.

Hmm that sounds like something I can do. I'll start tomorrow!
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:34:04 PM | message detail
It's Curt.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:34:26 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #356
who the hell is ExternalxCourage anyway? Is he an alt or something?


Curt.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:34:48 PM | message detail
One, I'm perfectly calm. I'm playing Bioshock again so I'm not really paying attention to your little show, but I was pointing out your hypocrisy, not complaining about your opinion.

You realize that everyone thinks you're hypocritical, and that you are very wrong.

Calm down Curt.
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tgs2 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:36:02 PM | message detail
If MC keeps bombing, maybe Felix can win his rematch if they ever meet in the future.

Shame this result won't put me in the leaderboard.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/22/2010 6:37:35 PM | message detail
It's ok nintendogirl you don't have to justify your 'calmness' to me. I get it.

There's no hypocrisy here. I was just told that I don't act elitist at all (and I don't); so where is the hypocrisy?
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ZFS | Posted 2/22/2010 6:38:14 PM | message detail
I'm kind of curious why everyone keeps talking about how big of a bomb this is by Chief. Did people expect him to be that much stronger than Hayabusa? Or for Hayabusa to be weak or something? I guess people were expecting a Chief win and it didn't materialize, so they're backlashing, but this isn't that bad. This was always a pretty debatable match, especially after seeing both of them in round 1, and it's not like Chief is getting killed here.

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:38:52 PM | message detail
People just like to laugh at Chief. Just like Magus, Kefka, and DK.
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ZFS | Posted 2/22/2010 6:41:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, I figured, but this isn't Magus or Kefka or DK levels of 'bombing.' Chief is just losing a match that by all rights was debatable provided you didn't believe in the Xbox Hierarchy silliness.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:42:25 PM | message detail
do not doubt the hierarchy
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 2/22/2010 6:45:12 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #365
I'm kind of curious why everyone keeps talking about how big of a bomb this is by Chief. Did people expect him to be that much stronger than Hayabusa? Or for Hayabusa to be weak or something? I guess people were expecting a Chief win and it didn't materialize, so they're backlashing, but this isn't that bad. This was always a pretty debatable match, especially after seeing both of them in round 1, and it's not like Chief is getting killed here.


This very much. I figured the range for this match was Ryu with 55% to MC with 55%. I sided with Chief only because i was leaning that Ryu had not quite risen far enough to pass Chief yet. I'm happy to be wrong. Though Master Choke is now added to the list of characters i'll never take in a debatable match again, along with Magus. Kefka used to be there too, but after R1... well, we'll see how he does in R2.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/22/2010 6:47:35 PM | message detail
I didn't realize until now just how putrid the 2-seeds were this year. Look at this list of 2-seeds in the order of their divisions:

Nathan Drake
Altair
Master Chief
Kratos
Ezio Auditore da Firenze
Dante
Squall Leonhart
Gordon Freeman

Okay, we can all agree that Squall is far ahead of the other seven, and it's pretty safe to say that Dante is far ahead of the remaining six. And Nathan Drake, being the only character to ever lose to CATS, is definitely the worst. Now, how do you order 3-7? While we can't be sure until he gets his own second-round match, it's unlikely that Ezio is better than Assasin's Creed franchise-mate Altair...who wasn't all that impressive. Master Chief is only worth a damn in four-ways. Maybe Kratos is #3? Except he hasn't done anything outside of four-ways either. This means that in all likelihood, Gordon Freeman ranks third among the eight 2-seeds, just because he doesn't suck as badly as everyone else--although Kratos would automatically take over the slot if he beats Charizard. Gordon. Freeman. The guy who "never wins". Yeah, he's had a couple of wins since then, but he's still always going to be remembered for losing to Tina Armstrong. This is sad, and I hope that SB decides to use common sense in seeding the characters instead of basing it solely on nominations.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:49:29 PM | message detail
It probably has a lot to do with holding nominations during the holidays. If you held them now, I'd be very confident people like Altair and Ezio do not get 2-seeds.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 6:50:44 PM | message detail
hey.

a lot of you picked Master Chief. and you know what? you're dumb for doing it.

I'm talking low IQ, brain damage and all that stuff.

yeah, next time hopefully you'll stop being dumb and picking Master Chief.

sincerely,
the enlightened Ryu Hayabusa supporters


*initials*


Nah, the match was seriously debatable and the percentages are proving it, but it felt like MC-supporters were generally less accepting of this being a close match thanks to out-dated theories like the Xbox-hierarchy. To see that logic land on its face (again) when MC was such a big favorite on the board (again) -- and surely bigger off of it (again) -- is why we're all laughing at MC (again).

(again!)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 6:51:28 PM | message detail
Did people expect him to be that much stronger than Hayabusa?

Apparently so. They also apparently thought Hayabusa was an XBox character.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 6:51:51 PM | message detail
I think tranny was being faux-elitist, HaRR!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 6:54:03 PM | message detail
I had Hayabusa here for a while and only switched to Chief once I realized it was a day match (and it looks like that line of thought would have panned out if Chief had managed to suck just a little bit less). I was never confident, though, not at all. It's *Chief*.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/22/2010 6:54:58 PM | message detail
I didn't realize until now just how putrid the 2-seeds were this year. Look at this list of 2-seeds in the order of their divisions:

Nathan Drake
Altair
Master Chief
Kratos
Ezio Auditore da Firenze
Dante
Squall Leonhart
Gordon Freeman

Okay, we can all agree that Squall is far ahead of the other seven, and it's pretty safe to say that Dante is far ahead of the remaining six. And Nathan Drake, being the only character to ever lose to CATS, is definitely the worst. Now, how do you order 3-7? While we can't be sure until he gets his own second-round match, it's unlikely that Ezio is better than Assasin's Creed franchise-mate Altair...who wasn't all that impressive. Master Chief is only worth a damn in four-ways. Maybe Kratos is #3? Except he hasn't done anything outside of four-ways either. This means that in all likelihood, Gordon Freeman ranks third among the eight 2-seeds, just because he doesn't suck as badly as everyone else--although Kratos would automatically take over the slot if he beats Charizard. Gordon. Freeman. The guy who "never wins". Yeah, he's had a couple of wins since then, but he's still always going to be remembered for losing to Tina Armstrong. This is sad, and I hope that SB decides to use common sense in seeding the characters instead of basing it solely on nominations.


I agree that other than Dante and Squall, the 2-seeds are just putrid to the point of it being ghastly. I mean, one can't even break 60% on SIMON BELMONT, one let TAILS nearly get 40% on him,one barely beat Princess Peach... This is just plain sad.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 6:56:11 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53618884

SMACK! Dab in the middle of the Stats Topic!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 6:57:08 PM | message detail
Haha, it kind of transitioned into a response to HM somewhere in there. My initialing understood the phony-bologna-cojones that tranny's acting like he has there!
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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:00:36 PM | message detail
this match is almost an exact repeat of the Sub-Zero match, right down to the way it started with Chief getting the bracket vote and falling apart immediately afterwards. I bet if you went through the archives you'd see the same 'smug' attitude from the Master Chief supporters. Master Chief supporters always believe he's a lot stronger than he is, or don't trust his opponents for some reason.

Ryu Hayabusa has had a string of impressive performances for 2-3 years now. why are we still doubting him?
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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:01:13 PM | message detail
oh come on who marks that stuff

at least HRRH had the smarts to quote it
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/22/2010 7:01:48 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 7:02:31 PM | message detail
Chief supporters were smug? Maybe outside the stats topic, but...

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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/22/2010 7:03:37 PM | message detail
this match is almost an exact repeat of the Sub-Zero match, right down to the way it started with Chief getting the bracket vote and falling apart immediately afterwards. I bet if you went through the archives you'd see the same 'smug' attitude from the Master Chief supporters. Master Chief supporters always believe he's a lot stronger than he is, or don't trust his opponents for some reason.

Castlevania/Halo played out exactly the same way as well - "Halo's gonna double CV," Halo gets the board vote, and then CV never looks back. Good times!
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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:06:13 PM | message detail
smug in the sense that he couldn't lose to some inferior xbox character or something, like that even mattered. people always make excuses for Master Chief. even now, Master Chief is losing because of anti-votes or some such crap instead of Hayabusa just being more popular.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 7:07:21 PM | message detail
I didn't see anyone outside of like...Ulti saying anything about that.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/22/2010 7:07:41 PM | message detail
Who is saying that?

I don't think anyone who took Chief ever thought this was a lock.

Sounds like you're just being an elitist Hayabusa supporter to me, trying to rub salt in the wounds like the fiend you are.
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redrocket | Posted 2/22/2010 7:08:33 PM | message detail
Discounting anti-votes entirely as a factor in MC's 1v1 matches is just as silly as the Xbox hierarchy.

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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:08:36 PM | message detail
you can definitely see it all around the board, and it's not a new phenomenon. as yo pointed out earlier, Hayabusa was kind of a stats topic pick, one that actually paid off for once.
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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:09:10 PM | message detail
also, if you haven't heard, I picked Ryu Hayabusa to win this match.

let me repeat that: I picked Ryu Hayabusa and you probably didn't.
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Japago | Posted 2/22/2010 7:09:19 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say Squall is far ahead of Dante, but yeah. Yikes at the 2 seeds.

Squall
Dante

Kratos
Altair
Master Chief

Gordon Freeman
Ezio

Nathan Drake

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 7:09:45 PM | message detail
I'm talking about the stats topic, who cares about the rest of the board?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/22/2010 7:11:03 PM | message detail
Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea who this curt guy is. How long has be been around and what was his actual account name?
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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:11:34 PM | message detail
well, I can't speak for the stats topic. this is the first time I've read this topic since maybe the beginning of the contest.

pre-contest, though, the xbox hierarchy stuff was everywhere. I guess I can just blame Albion for being dumb though.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/22/2010 7:12:28 PM | message detail
As soon as brackets closed, I realized I had MC > Hayabusa and instantly regretted it. I would probably take Ryu > Sub Zero, so this should have been a gimme match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 7:13:28 PM | message detail
Xbox hierarchy and the even worse Capcom hierarchy.
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redrocket | Posted 2/22/2010 7:14:05 PM | message detail
Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea who this curt guy is. How long has be been around and what was his actual account name?

His original(banned) account was NoDiceCurt.

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transients | Posted 2/22/2010 7:19:12 PM | message detail
that's not his original account, it's just the account he started trolling with.

y'all should know better than to respond, but this is the stats topic after all!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 7:41:41 PM | message detail
Match LXXVII: (1) Sora vs. (8) Laharl

Last Round

Sora – 63.63%
Midna – 36.37%

Laharl – 56.32%
Neku Sakuraba – 43.68%

Analysis

It has taken six long years, but Laharl has made the second round, his reward, being on the wrong end of one of the biggest blowouts of the round. Laharl quite easily wins the award of being the weakest character to win a match in this contest while Sora needs to look as good as possible in order to take on this division.

I don’t see quite why people thought Sora’s performance last round was bad. Midna is not a true 16 seed and people seem to remember her failures in 2007 better than her decent performances in 2008. Sora performed to expectations in that match which is good for his bid to win the division. Laharl on the other hand used factors such as being the higher seed and having more contest exposure to win.

Let’s have fun crunching some numbers. Let’s assume Shadow and Zidane are constant to each other since 2008 and Prinny and Laharl are equals Luigi would only have won by 67.5%. While Sora may be slightly stronger I think this settles that Prinny is likely stronger than Laharl in this contest. Especially since Laharl hasn’t had anything new in a while.

Sora should break 70% easily, Yoshi was able to break 73% on him in 2005 which is about where Sora ranks. I never understood the idea that Sora is unable to blowout his opponents. The reason why Tingle did so well relative to the board’s expectations could be because Zelda fans would vote for anything Zelda related. Remember when we thought a random piece of FFVII furniture would break the fodder line?

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sora > Neku Sakuraba

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sora wins, 72.79% - 27.21%

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 7:51:50 PM | message detail
I remember big arguments for the Xbox-hierarchy pre-contest, and Hayabusa/MC was one of the most debated matches (though you couldn't tell it by the support Hayabusa has in numbers against him -- it was a big debate between the few and the many). The contest silenced a lot of it once R1 made both of them look bad, but MC remained the favorite and the goddamned Xbox-hierarchy remained a talking point when it never should have been.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 7:54:12 PM | message detail
Castlevania/Halo played out exactly the same way as well - "Halo's gonna double CV," Halo gets the board vote, and then CV never looks back. Good times!

Halo's day vote is so great that it could swing 5000 votes on Castlevania EASILY!

I don't think anyone who took Chief ever thought this was a lock.

Albion, but yeah.

Well, DaruniaTheGoron (I think that's his name) was another one of those guys who was a proponent of the XBox Hierarchy as well.
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