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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 845

Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 10:08:53 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #064
Oh, and not to mention Gordon and Duke from Ike's 2007 4-pack have looked pretty bad. The only one coming up looking better is Guybrush Threepwood!


Guybrush boost is legit! It's just hard to tell because a Drake-level boost for Guybrush still means Guybrush gets tripled by Vincent!
I would ****ing love Shepard > Pikachu, and I say that as one of Pikachu's biggest supporters in these contests. As awesome as Sprite Pikachu breaking 45% on Solid **** would be, Shepard proving to have damn impressive strength and warrant becoming a contest mainstay would be even more awesome.

Plus then we can nominate more ME characters! Joker for the 2011 contest! Seth Green > Jack Black!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/22/2010 10:09:13 AM | message detail
If the first hour of MC/Spy is any indication, Ryu H is going to end this match about a half percentage point higher than where he is right now!

...what?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 10:11:34 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #102
If the first hour of MC/Spy is any indication, Ryu H is going to end this match about a half percentage point higher than where he is right now!

...what?


Taking those trends seriously is like taking L Block trends seriously!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/22/2010 10:12:27 AM | message detail
Guybrush probably has boosted. He's had tons of exposure since the last contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/22/2010 10:12:30 AM | message detail
Well if we take this match seriously.. Spy still sucks.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 10:12:38 AM | message detail
I've suspected Shepard would impress against Pikachu since their matches in R1, perhaps a LOT...but I don't know how much of his performance was legit strength and how much was benefiting from the hype of ME2. Either way, he'll be worth bringing back next year to find out for sure and his match against Pikachu will give us something to think about in the meanwhile.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 10:13:26 AM | message detail
By the way, does this make you guys feel any differently about the other Ryu match coming up in a few days?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/22/2010 10:13:26 AM | message detail
Ike got 45% on Pikachu last year. The rat is vulnerable when he's not being bandwagoned, but Shepard isn't the character to do it.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 10:13:33 AM | message detail
I don't get why people think Shepard impressed in round 1. Ellis is just weaksauce and if you're going to vote for somebody you vote for somebody from the cover of that new game that just got released!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 10:15:59 AM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #109
I don't get why people think Shepard impressed in round 1.


He's had the most impressive performance relative to Oracle expectations (of the characters who were expected to win). That's pretty impressive no matter which way you slice it, but I still think Pikachu's gonna kill him.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 10:17:23 AM | message detail
A tripling in a blowout-resistant contest is still impressive, even if it's against a character who'd get doubled by Guybrush.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/22/2010 10:17:58 AM | message detail
People expected him to not kill Ellis? If anything that's more of "hey I really don't know these guys let me throw out some random close figures to represent that"
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 10:18:09 AM | message detail
I think Shep might get 42-44% on Pikachu, but thats about his limit.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 10:18:43 AM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #112
People expected him to not kill Ellis? If anything that's more of "hey I really don't know these guys let me throw out some random close figures to represent that"


Oracle had him at like 58-60% iirc.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 10:21:05 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #114
Oracle had him at like 58-60% iirc.


So what Zen said is accurate!

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ToadYoshi | Posted 2/22/2010 10:21:57 AM | message detail
Yep, this ends my awesome run. And I can't think of a better way to end it that watching the garbage that is MC and Halo go down! Aww yeah!

This is the first change that I regret in my bracket. I had Ryu H for the longest time before the trends convinced me think twice.

And stats-wise, the ONLY argument for MC > Ryu H was the fact that this was a day match. You don't even have to be at Zero or Vivi level to beat Master Flop, and Ryu was clearly around that solid midcarder level. Hence the reason the stats topic outperformed everyone else in this match.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 10:22:24 AM | message detail
Shepard's match got around the same votals as Vincent's, and is still above the likes of Laharl and Ratchet's matches.

Shepard's probably got some decent strength to him. Not enough to rival Pikachu of course, but he's not as weak as everyone's expecting him to be.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/22/2010 10:22:46 AM | message detail
I still feel exceedingly confident in Dante against Ryu, as long as we don't end up with some weird Dante/Yoshi contrast again. Even then, I'm a big booster of Ryu being weaker than most view him - his Balthier match was probably the best match he's had since 2004 as far as I'm concerned. Which gives me some pause, but despite it I don't think he'll hold up.

Speaking of this Ryu, he just had a 57% update two updates back, yeowch.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/22/2010 10:23:29 AM | message detail

From: ToadYoshi | #116
Yep, this ends my awesome run. And I can't think of a better way to end it that watching the garbage that is MC and Halo go down! Aww yeah!

This is the first change that I regret in my bracket. I had Ryu H for the longest time before the trends convinced me think twice.

And stats-wise, the ONLY argument for MC > Ryu H was the fact that this was a day match. You don't even have to be at Zero or Vivi level to beat Master Flop, and Ryu was clearly around that solid midcarder level. Hence the reason the stats topic outperformed everyone else in this match.


Too bad nobody in the stats topic listened to themselves when making their brackets!
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LOLContests | Posted 2/22/2010 10:26:23 AM | message detail
The fact that this was a day match was pretty much the only reason I took Chief. Agh. I totally would have taken Ryu had the match been 24 hours.
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shadow8021 | Posted 2/22/2010 10:43:51 AM | message detail
Hayabusa has almost 80% in Wyoming.
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Xuxon | Posted 2/22/2010 10:46:32 AM | message detail
Speaking of Wyoming, I just noticed Zack got destroyed there against Mega Man, yet Cid beat him. Seems kind of strange.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 10:46:41 AM | message detail
I listened to myself, and it worked this time!
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Japago | Posted 2/22/2010 10:46:55 AM | message detail
Yikes. Is it time to bring back the 1 vs 1 anti-vote theory? Even though he wasn't game fueled in 08, he did get 49% on Kirby in round 2.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 10:47:28 AM | message detail
Wyoming clearly hates the PSP.
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CP724 | Posted 2/22/2010 10:47:32 AM | message detail
Wonder if Ryu would beat Jill again.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/22/2010 10:48:49 AM | message detail
I still feel exceedingly confident in Dante against Ryu, as long as we don't end up with some weird Dante/Yoshi contrast again. Even then, I'm a big booster of Ryu being weaker than most view him - his Balthier match was probably the best match he's had since 2004 as far as I'm concerned. Which gives me some pause, but despite it I don't think he'll hold up.

Give me Danta there. Ryu may have impressed with the way he destroyed Balthier, but it's Flopthier Bombansa - the same guy who lost to friggin' Ada Wong twice.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 10:50:13 AM | message detail
Okay, so the hierarchy argument finally got what it deserved.

Chief only chokes in even years:

2003: Beat Felix, did well on Aeris. Yes, he did horribly against Felix, but he won!
2004: Lost to Frog
2005: Beat DK
2006: Lost to Sub-Zero
2007: Was a legit near-elite or elite.
2008: Lost before his match with Sonic, so Sonic had to find another character to lose to instead.
2010: Lost to Sub-Zero
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 10:51:07 AM | message detail
That should say:

2010: Lost to Ryu Hayabusa
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/22/2010 10:51:15 AM | message detail
Anti-votes clearly matter in 1v1, and four ways *do* dilute them. It's not to the extent as some projected, but there's a reason why Cloud let Ridley do that to him last round. Spread it out between multiple weak options and there's not a good base to rally against a character.

Yet another reason why fourways are so volatile. For all we know, Cloud could have caused the strangeness of Mewtwo and Midna going 50/50 (Mewtwo being naturally stronger while Midna is the disproportionate target of antivote rallying).
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vcharon | Posted 2/22/2010 10:51:39 AM | message detail
He'd lose to Sub-Zero again if only he had the chance to, don't worry!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 10:52:29 AM | message detail
Even Year Factor

Oh dear.
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Xuxon | Posted 2/22/2010 10:52:36 AM | message detail
Hmm, you're right. PSP ownership is only 39% in Wyoming compared to 49% overall.

I don't see why Dante wouldn't be the favorite. Ryu did well against Balthier, but Dante practically matched Mega Man on Axel, in a day match.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/22/2010 10:58:23 AM | message detail
Man, this is just painful to watch...

Vivi had 18.46% bracket support in his Round Two match. Presuming Ryu H wins, does he have better or worse bracket support? My vote is that he'll only have about 15.5%.

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CP724 | Posted 2/22/2010 11:06:21 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION:

Ryu beats Jill again in a rematch
Ryu beat Zack;s % on MM
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/22/2010 11:07:01 AM | message detail
I dunno why people are calling this a stats topic upset, it was highly debated in the stats topic and it's not like a majority of the people were choosing Ryu H.

Wasn't Ulti smashing down peoples' throats about an X-Box hierarchy and how MC was going to destroy Hayabusa? Geez louise.

Either way this is shaping up to be a pretty good contest minus MissingNo.
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Xuxon | Posted 2/22/2010 11:09:25 AM | message detail
Ryu beats Jill again in a rematch - obviously
Ryu beat Zack;s % on MM - probably not
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/22/2010 11:10:52 AM | message detail
Fiction
Fiction

Chief's a flub. I'd take Jill over Hayabusa these days, no problem.
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ZFS | Posted 2/22/2010 11:11:08 AM | message detail
Will that ever happen again, though? ODST didn't do anything, which means Reach probably won't. Bungie is leaving after Reach, and it doesn't look like Microsoft has found a replacement to step up and take the series.

Definitely. Don't look at ODST for Reach hype, those are two different games -- one is an expansion, the other is essentially Halo 4. This being Bungie's last Halo will probably factor in to the hype, too, which will only raise the attention and 'importance' of the game. Reach will probably overshadow everything else this year in terms of hype, sales and anticipation. It may not seem that way now, but Microsoft hasn't gotten the ball rolling yet. What that means for Chief, though, who knows. Depends on how soon he can cash in on the hype and how much Reach delivers as a game.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 11:14:59 AM | message detail
Fiction and Fiction. Mega Man would sooner break 70% on Hayabusa, and this is more Chief flopping than Hayabusa being strong.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/22/2010 11:20:14 AM | message detail
Poor Ryu H. Doomed to be disrespected as he pulls off *three* early round stunners in as many contests, then get blown out by a Noble Niner in a fashion unrepresentative of his true strength. I bet he'll be the underdog against Tails or something next year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 11:21:49 AM | message detail
Jill/Hayabusa could be an interesting match. Jill's another one of those characters whose first round performance probably wasn't as impressive as it looked on paper.
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vcharon | Posted 2/22/2010 11:22:14 AM | message detail
I don't get the Ryu disrespect in here honestly.
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ZFS | Posted 2/22/2010 11:22:52 AM | message detail
People always find a reason!

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Lopen | Posted 2/22/2010 11:25:34 AM | message detail
Hayabusa is 4REAL.

Reason he's being disrespected iis I don't think most people were thinking that when they picked him. They were using the Kefka logic on MC. So of course they're going to bedowngrade Ryu's performance here.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 11:25:39 AM | message detail
If Ryu wants me to respect him more, he probably should have done better than 62% on Crash in the round before.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 11:26:18 AM | message detail
You know who else did that well on Crash?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2874

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Lopen | Posted 2/22/2010 11:26:47 AM | message detail
Now that being said I do think this is more a Chief flop

But I'm just saying I wouldn't bat an eyelash at Hayabusa getting in the neighborhood of Cid and Zack next round
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 11:28:15 AM | message detail
He got 40.79% on Magus. He got 38.21% on Hayabusa. Based on that, it looks like Magus/Chief is a tossup!

Crash isn't uber-fodder anymore though. We need to get over that notion. He'd beat Spy somewhat easily, based on how the preliminary stats for this fourpack look.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/22/2010 11:30:07 AM | message detail
Eh, I'd take Spy over Crash because I think Spy rallying would keep up if Spy were actually in a fight where he looked like he could win.
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