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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 844
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/22/2010 2:45:23 AM | message detail |
Of course yuna got sffed, its ff7 --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/22/2010 3:04:32 AM | message detail |
Yuna
was definitely SFFed by a good degree, assuming Yuna = Aeris (based on
their performance on Zelda in 2006), Auron could only get 38-39% on MM
and i think that was a bit too low. Btw, the NN does indeed look more impressive in R2 than in R1(just like last character contest), maybe Snake and Cloud could redeem themselves a little, or maybe not, we have to see. --- Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times" |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 3:05:19 AM | message detail |
Zack actually won an update at 5:42 albeit only by one vote. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 4th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 3:13:06 AM | message detail |
I
stayed at 50th place!Now that is amazing!Also some people said that
Zack could beat Mega-Man!So is Zack weak or is Megaman that strong? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/22/2010 3:14:27 AM | message detail |
Zach just won another update.. not bad. Wonder where he will peak. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 3:15:41 AM | message detail |
Another update win for Zack (By 2 lol) but that's the 38% up too. Anyoen think he can reach 40? It's probably a combination of Zack being slightly overrated and Mega Man being slightly underrated. I don't think there was ever any real danger of Zack winning but most did think it would be a lot closer than this. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 4th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 3:25:09 AM | message detail |
So that means that FF7 really has fallen off..If the final is Link vs Cloud,Cloud might not even break 45%... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 3:32:27 AM | message detail |
I
wouldn't say it really means FF7 has fallen off. Not ruling it out but
we didn't have a fully accurate read on Zack so can't really base it
off him. But even if FF7 hasn't fallen off, it's still possible that Link 55-45's Cloud. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 4th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 3:42:36 AM | message detail |
Aren't
you the one who always says that games=/=characters? >_> Master
Chief has always looked better then halo itself in polls and game
contests. That isn't the point. The point is that Halo's awful performances don't line up with this idea of "XBox acceptance." If it doesn't apply to Halo, why is it going to apply to Chief? --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Biolizard28 | Posted 2/22/2010 3:44:06 AM | message detail |
ZackFAQs my ass. This is delicious. --- who needs a dick when you're good at smash brothers - stingers Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 5:00:53 AM | message detail |
Looking at Cid/Mega Man, the Blue Bomber should start going back up in percentage right around now. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/22/2010 5:07:53 AM | message detail |
Still however, this does seem to imply nothing went on between Cecil and Zack. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Xuxon | Posted 2/22/2010 5:11:10 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #311 Looks to me like he won't be going up in percentage at all, but could stall percentage for the last couple hours. --- ------ --------- |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/22/2010 5:17:56 AM | message detail |
To think who outlasted who last year... |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 5:35:47 AM | message detail |
Only roughly worked out but as things stand xstats for this four pack would be roughly Mega Man - 50% Zack Fair - 38.6% Cid - 36.96% Yuna - 31.95% Or thereabouts? Ignoring 2k6, 2007 xstats put Yuna at 32.33 and 2005 at 33.64. Hmm. So is it this actually as surprising as initially thought then? --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 4th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/22/2010 5:36:49 AM | message detail |
Yuna being back at 2003 levels is unreal. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
voltch | Posted 2/22/2010 5:46:07 AM | message detail |
but
still a night match and Zack couldn't break 40, ouch, MM is no slouch
either there, but that's the second match where he overperformed
against our initial expectations. maybe not overperform, but certainly impressed, the VII killer is now collecting war trophies. --- Shakes Fist! |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/22/2010 5:46:09 AM | message detail |
From: ShatteredElysium | #315 Hmm. So is it this actually as surprising as initially thought then? Well drop all your stats down a load since Mega Man doesn't equal Link and Link is gonna be set equal to 50.00 and you tell me. --- Hmm? |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 5:54:18 AM | message detail |
What year Link should I use? Don't get me wrong, definitely caught me off guard. Hence the 54.37% Mega Man Oracle prediction. I was more just surprised that it does actually line up to xstats so far. Hmmm. Let's try 2k5 Link/Mega Man. Link - 50% Mega Man - 38.79% Zack Fair - 29.95% Cid - 28.67% Yuna - 24.79% I think. I'm only quickly working this out whilst working so may be slightly off. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 5th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/22/2010 6:29:57 AM | message detail |
another division. predict away! (1) Altair (16) CATS (8) Weighted Companion Cube (9) Ness (5) Darth Revan (12) Arthas Menethil (4) Niko Bellic (13) Simon Belmont (3) Soap MacTavish (14) Crash Bandicoot (6) GlaDOS (11) Ratchet (7) Sub-Zero (10) L-Block (2) Ryu Hayabusa (15) Sandal --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 13th Today's prediction: Mega Man - 58.34% Status: meh |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 6:58:51 AM | message detail |
Match LXXVI: (7) Ryu Hayabusa vs. (2) Master Chief Last Round Ryu Hayabusa – 61.79% Crash Bandicoot – 38.21% Master Chief – 60.22% Spy – 39.78% Analysis It was interesting to see Master Chief to try and one-up Ryu Hayabusa’s performance in round 1. This match seems to get more debate of whether or not the match will be close rather than which character is going to win. The main problem with this match is that people are misusing the term hierarchy. Let’s assume that there is an Xbox hierarchy to make things simple it would also be safe to assume that Master Chief would rank top in such a ladder because when the console was released Halo was top dog. Just because Master Chief is on top of the hierarchy does not make him automatically above Hayabusa it only gives him the ability to SFF Hayabusa. For example FFVII is above FFX in the hierarchy yet Auron was able to defeat Aerith, but Auron was unable to SFF her because she’s from FFVII. Metroid is another example, it is actually quite low on the Nintendo hierarchy, but that doesn’t stop Samus from winning over most Nintendo characters, she just doesn’t SFF them. If Master Chief wins it will be because he is stronger than Hayabusa not because Halo ranks above Ninja Gaiden in a hierarchy that it may or may not be a part of. As for the match itself I believe that the two characters will finish relatively close to each other. Hayabusa may have performed badly, but Crash has been looking a lot better over the past few contests while Team Fortress 2 has also been gaining popularity. Master Chief ranks near the top of characters not to trust. The main advantage that I feel Master Chief has is that Hayabusa seems to fall apart when put up against characters with massive casual appeal. I’m not seeing how Solid Snake/Hayabusa has anything in common, but Master Chief does have more in common with Solid Snake than characters like Riku and Zero do. The 2 seeds are 0/2 in getting to the third round and looking forward I can see a bunch of them failing to reach the third round; Kratos, Ezio and Gordon Freeman are not favourites of winning while Dante has a chance of losing, the only 2 seed that is more or less a lock to reach the third round is Squall. I expect Master Chief to win this without too much trouble, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Master Choke happens again. charmander6000’s Bracket: Master Chief > Ryu Hayabusa charmander6000’s Prediction: Master Chief wins, 54.49% - 45.51% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 69/84 - Today's Winners: Mega Man and Master Chief |
eaglesarebeasts | Posted 2/22/2010 7:09:22 AM | message detail |
Anyone
else find it interesting that the Sonic/Knuckles match might have
higher votals than this match? And they were both night matches. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 7:28:09 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #133 What good match has Zack or Yuna ever had? --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· Is a momentary gleam all you need? |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 2/22/2010 7:38:32 AM | message detail |
What
do you call this match? Sure Zack's not doing as good as some of us
hoped, but that's because we hoped he was a near-elite. He's still
performing like a solid midcard. That's not "sucks in polls". --- "Flash runs alongside balefire watching marshmallows stop existing" - War |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/22/2010 7:39:18 AM | message detail |
Okay fine, but he was still horribly overrated. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· Hey, it's that dog! |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/22/2010 7:42:52 AM | message detail |
I think
what Ulti is saying is that Mega Man winning here in the fashion he is
isn't a cause to suddenly think Mega Man can beat Mario. Which is fair
enough. It's just the way he's put it that isn't exactly agreeable as it could be construed as slightly misleading. As seen by some of the replies to his post. --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 ~~~ Individual: 4th ~~~ Team: 6th (Partner BZer0) |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 7:43:35 AM | message detail |
From: ShatteredElysium | #326 Which is 100% true. People just overrated Zack and thought he was in a different tier then Cid/Aerith, which he obviously isn't. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 2/22/2010 7:51:53 AM | message detail |
Yep. A lot of it was because he beat Mega Man X (with SFF) and X was overrated too. I hope we can get a rematch for those two next year. --- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 7:54:49 AM | message detail |
So
it looks like Zack is gonna end up only about 3% away from what he
ended with the board vote. Not very impressive for a FFVII character
versus Mega Man. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 8:01:31 AM | message detail |
Unlike other FFVII characters Zack is actually liked on this board. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 69/84 - Today's Winners: Mega Man and Master Chief |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 8:01:39 AM | message detail |
Actually scratch that Cloud is liked on this board, Board 8's Top 100 characters constantly has him in the top 3. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 69/84 - Today's Winners: Mega Man and Master Chief |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 8:03:05 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #331 Obviously that doesn't translate to board votes though! --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:06:22 AM | message detail |
It's just the way he's put it that isn't exactly agreeable as it could be construed as slightly misleading. Oh, so Ulti was being purposefully antagonistic to get a rise out of people? Shock and awe! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/22/2010 8:07:55 AM | message detail |
Actually scratch that Cloud is liked on this board, Board 8's Top 100 characters constantly has him in the top 3. That's only because you can't really antivote in that contest. Compare with his performances in knock out tournaments, 'who did you vote for' etc. etc. Cloud is probably the most hated character on the board. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:08:41 AM | message detail |
Squall ended up ranked #1 in that thing, too. If only it were that accurate! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 8:08:51 AM | message detail |
Obviously that doesn't translate to board votes though! I'm positive the board votes for the opponent as a joke now. We all know that he is going to win so might as well continue his legendary bad start. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 69/84 - Today's Winners: Mega Man and Master Chief |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:10:23 AM | message detail |
Oh,
and char is right about Zack being more of a board favorite than the
rest of FFVII. He actually ended up lower at the end of the first hour
than he was at the first freeze. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:17:27 AM | message detail |
This
next match should end up pretty close (barring XBOX HIERARCHY),
hopefully. There's only so close Hayabusa or Chief are going to end up
to Spy or Crash Bandicoot. Although it'd be awesome if Hayabusa beat Chief worse than Crash! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 8:18:04 AM | message detail |
Expect lots of Xbox Heirarchy claims in 45 minutes! --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2010 8:18:40 AM | message detail |
So
are we so sure Zack and Cid are actually close together? We saw most of
the other heavy-hitters last round under-perform, and Mega Man was one
of the few exceptions...but what if he wasn't an exception and Cid just
sucks that much? Then again, that probably brings Aeris down a lot too if their relationship's to be trusted from the vote-ins, and I don't buy that so much. Still, if Mega Man was an exception, why was he an exception? Every Noble Niner besides Samus under-performed, plus Vincent failed to impress against Guybrush. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2010 8:18:59 AM | message detail |
And I'll probably rage again for people not understanding how a hierarchy works. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 69/84 - Today's Winners: Mega Man and Master Chief |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 8:19:19 AM | message detail |
Who wins the board vote, anyway? --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 8:19:56 AM | message detail |
I
would expect that Mega Man didn't underperform as much in round 1
compared to others because of his opponent. People aren't going to give
pity votes to a FFVII character. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/22/2010 8:20:25 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #342 Weirdly enough, Chief typically has a pretty good board vote, so I'd expect he would. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/13twop_02.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/22/2010 8:21:11 AM | message detail |
Still, if Mega Man was an exception, why was he an exception? He faced someone from Final Fantasy VII. From: KamikazePotato | #342 Hmmm...I'd say Hayabusa since he's facing Chief, but Chief's got brackets. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Master Moltar | Posted 2/22/2010 8:21:22 AM | message detail |
Mushroom Division: Round 2 - Match 76 – (7) Ryu Hayabusa vs. (2) Master Chief Moltar’s Analysis Ryu H. Round 1 - 61.79% vs. Crash This is awful Master Chief Round 1 - 60.22% vs. Spy This is…typical of the Chief Hayabusa a four-way wonder? It may be the case! Only 61% on Crash sends so many warning signs to me like you don’t even know. He may have looked pretty good in 2007 when he crushed Riku, or in 2008 when he beat out the favorite in R1, Zero, but his 1v1 stuff has never been great. While he did beat Zero in 4-ways, he lost 63-37 in 1v1 2 years before that. He also got spanked by Dante the year after that. This is just another underwhelming 1v1 showing from Hayabusa. Yes, backing Chief is never a sure sign, but it’s going to be harder for Ryu H to rally against Chief than it was for Valve character who’s a popular meme #34. Spy can make Chief look bad, but it’ll be harder for Hayabusa to do the same. (Plus, with the whole XBAWKS HIGHER-ARKHEE, people are sure to vote the flagship Chief over a second-stringer Ryu H!) Basically, between Ryu’s collapses against strong opponents in 1v1 and his numbers on Crash, I just can’t go with him here. This is his best chance for a good win yet, as Chief isn’t as strong as Zero or Dante or Snake. However, if all it takes for Ryu to collapse is a big name, then he’s finished here. Moltar’s Bracket: MC > Ryu H. Moltar’s Prediction: Ryu H: 47% - MC: 53% Lopen’s Analysis People fear Ryu here. I don't really see it. I still claim there's an XBox hierarchy, and despite Halo's disappointments since well, Halo 2, I'm pretty sure Chief still has it in him to step on some ninja. Chief didn't do too well last round, but the only explanation I can come up with is that cunning Spy disguised himself up as GAME FUEL. That or a Mudkip, because apparently the DO YOU LIEK MUDKIPZ faction was out in full force. ... hey why isn't Mudkip in the bracket? Strange! But yeah, despite looking like crap last round I think Master Chief takes this one. Not even really cause there's a hierarchy, just cause he's just plain stronger than Ryu. Zero fanboyz need to take their upset pick somewhere else, especially after Hayabusa laid that turd against Crash Bandicoot. Actually I was kinda bluffing. Despite all logic I can think of saying otherwise, I believe Master Chief must have a nailbiter every contest and somehow this will be the one now that Mega Man's out of his reach. PROVE ME WRONG, CHIEF! INVINCIBLE RIGHT? RIGHT?!!?! Lopen's prediction: Master Chief with 50.27% Transience’s Analysis This is a pretty big match. Master Chief is one of those guys that is impossible to really get a good read on. He's so variable. Sometimes he beats a guy down and sometimes he looks utterly terrible. We're talking about a dude who got 65% on Yuna one year and then 59% against Kain Highwind the next. What's he going to do this year? I think the Halo brand is on the downswing. Call of Duty has utterly crushed it over the last few years. 360 favouritism has gone down, Halo ODST got like 14 votes in the GOTY poll, and nobody is really all that excited about Halo Reach. All of this has led to a clear post-Halo 3 drop for Master Chief. If you believe that Master Chief gets anti-voted, then that just makes things worse. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/22/2010 8:21:23 AM | message detail |
People here don't get that our perception of the favorite is not the perception that the rest of GameFAQs gets. Mega Man has historically bad seeding and prediction percentages. Casuals love him, but they don't have that much faith in him. Against an FF7 character? Any FF7 character? Yeah. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 2/22/2010 8:21:29 AM | message detail |
time for some Hayabusa domination --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Master Moltar | Posted 2/22/2010 8:21:47 AM | message detail |
On
the flipside, we've got Ryu Hayabusa. In just the last two years he's
had a new mainline game, a DS game and a port of Ninja Gaiden 2 to the
PS3 with all sorts of new content. Hayabusa is very clearly on the
rise. His series isn't the most popular on GameFAQs but everyone knows
him and action game characters never have super popular games. Dante is
strong but Devil May Cry is weak. Same with God of War. Ryu Hayabusa
isn't on their level, but he doesn't have to be to beat Master Chief.
Master Chief just isn't very strong. Master Chief has two main arguments going for him. The first is that this is a day match and Master Chief is a day vote god. However, this perception is overblown because of how insane Master Chief was in 2007 - his day vote was worse than Spy's last round. Spy has a terrible day vote, too. I think 4chan or Steam or someone rallied against Master Chief last round, but if that's what happened then why wouldn't it happen again this round? Master Chief got destroyed by rallying in that Gamespot contest. He's always going to be on the bad side of rallying, and from what I've seen, pretty much everyone likes Hayabusa. The other argument is that there's some kind of "Microsoft hierarchy" and that Master Chief is just higher than Hayabusa. Basically, it's saying that Master Chief is Mario and Ryu Hayabusa is Samus. This is so incredibly stupid that I struggle to come up with a reason why. They're not even in the same league - different companies, different genres, different appeal. On top of that, Hayabusa's newfound strength has come from him branching out to more platforms. Getting away from the 360 has made him stronger. Why would Hayabusa suddenly get SFFed by Master Chief? Ugh. So yeah, I'm backing Hayabusa in a big way here. transience's prediction: Ryu Hayabusa with 55.59% Ngamer’s Analysis Quickie w/ Ng: Feel awful taking MC after '06, but at least Subby recently justified himself as a 1v1 stud; Hayabusa seems less likely to do the same. Ngamer Says: MC > The Other Ryu, 51.41% Kleenex’s Analysis Ryu didn't really impress in his round 1 match. Master Chief didn't really impress in his round 1 match. Ryu looked really good one year in the 4-ways. Master Chief looked really good one year in the 4-ways. Etc etc. I'm going to stick with my bracket this time in hopes that it will come through for me again, but it probably won't because that's how my luck works. Bracket: Chief Favorites: Chief Prediction: Chief with 52.01% Red Sox’s Analysis When I first saw this match in the bracket, I immediately picked Ryu Hayabusa. I was somewhat surprised to see later on that Chief was the big favorite on the board. Ryu winning this made sense- he fit in with people who have beaten Chief before like Sub-Zero and Frog, and with those who had gotten close to him before, like Donkey Kong and Felix. Hayabusa actually beat Zero last year, quite an impressive feat. Both of these characters looked awful in round 1, so nothing really has changed. The counterargument is that Chief has looked different since 2007. But really, he only looked much stronger in 2007 and fell back most of the way to his old levels in 2008. You can argue that even in 2008 he was still stronger than he used to be, and still stronger than Hayabusa, but after seeing Vivi thrash Altair and Big Boss get blasted by Mario, the 2008 comparison looks pretty close too. Prediction: Ryu Hayabusa with 51.11% Upset Potential: 40% Upper Bound: Ryu with 56% Lower Bound: Chief with 54% Crew Consensus: Ryu has 2 supporters, but everyone else is drinking the GAME FUEL. |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/22/2010 8:25:11 AM | message detail |
A
really close match.Probably the percentages will be the same as
Zidane/Ike.I think Ruy will win because so many people are stupid and
anti-vote MC because they think that MC=M$ and also a Ninja is always
cool. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |