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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 844

UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 9:03:46 PM | message detail
So where's that guy who said Zack would beat Mega Man?

LOL



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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
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~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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guffguy89 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:05:28 PM | message detail
whats up
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:12:55 PM | message detail
It needs repeating because it's too hilarious.

Assuming Zack ends at this %, and Knuckles was SFFed significantly by Sonic, AND Sonic = Mega Man, Cecil beats non-Buster Sword Zack effortlessly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:05 PM | message detail
Megaman > Mario
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:11 PM | message detail
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zenk123 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:21 PM | message detail
Mega Man > Mario, make it happen

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:27 PM | message detail

You've been around for Chief matches before, right?


....damnit you're right. o.o
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Lopen | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:54 PM | message detail
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#486 PS why are people flipping about this. Cid only got like 33%. Zack being much stronger than Cid makes little sense.


Reposting this from the crew topic.

This is like... really close to what I had Zack pegged at. What's the deal?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:13:59 PM | message detail
From: ExThaNemesis | #007
....damnit you're right. o.o

No doubting ExTha.

Chief got dis!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:11 PM | message detail
Terrible match, but at least I'm on the leaderboard. Chief is still the favorite tomorrow, but if Hayabusa does the job, it should ricochet me into the top ten.

I will mourn Zack in the meantime.

What kinda Mario/Mega Man percentage will I have to lay down to get a sig bet? Mario with 55%?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:15 PM | message detail
RIP ZackFaqs

*plays Price of Freedom*
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:26 PM | message detail
The problem is that you are basing your expectations on a Black Haired Cloud, not on Zack, as I was.

It seems like Zack as a character on his own doesn't seem to hold much merit. He gathers most of his strength, as it would seem, from the fact that he is the Black Haired Cloud.

That is, unless you think that MM has a legitimate shot against Mario, or anyone else of strength that high (he doesn't).
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:27 PM | message detail
Nice to see Mega Man going back to his glory years.

Now that Mega Man's made two separate FF7 characters his *****, I'd say it's time for a Mega Man/Sephiroth rematch!
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:34 PM | message detail
Are you betting on Mario?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:37 PM | message detail
Zack sucks in polls and always has, and Cid was horribly overrated. Yuna is horrible as well. What good match has she ever had outside the illegitimate female stats? This is all easily explained, and anyone looking at this and starting up Mega Man > Mario hype needs an IQ test.

You KNOW where I'm about to go without stupid Mega Man > Mario sounds. Don't make me go there.
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Achromatic | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:53 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #010
Terrible match, but at least I'm on the leaderboard. Chief is still the favorite tomorrow, but if Hayabusa does the job, it should ricochet me into the top ten.

I will mourn Zack in the meantime.

What kinda Mario/Mega Man percentage will I have to lay down to get a sig bet? Mario with 55%?


I'll take

*takes off glasses*

AN ACCOUNT BET
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:14:56 PM | message detail
From: Lopen | #008
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#486 PS why are people flipping about this. Cid only got like 33%. Zack being much stronger than Cid makes little sense.


Reposting this from the crew topic.

This is like... really close to what I had Zack pegged at. What's the deal?


Lopes, you know how you and everyone else rarely agree on %ages or even which way the results go? This is one of those rare occasions where you were right.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/21/2010 9:15:09 PM | message detail
I'll wager that MM at least leads the first 10 minutes

I think Mario's board vote is going to be stronger than Mega Man's board vote. Mega Man could take the lead early in the night before dying sometime during the dead zone.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 9:15:18 PM | message detail
I don't believe for a second Mega Man would beat Mario head-to-head one-on-one...but damn is it exciting to think about with Mega Man going great these first two rounds.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:15:28 PM | message detail
Well, if Zack has to suck, at least he's doing it against someone as awesome as Mega Man.

We seem to be having something of an old school renaissance. I haven't the slightest idea why (especially after the games contest), but I like it!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:15:47 PM | message detail
Man Ulti, I don't believe but it's too amusing of an upset to not jump on the train of.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 9:15:58 PM | message detail
Mushroom Division Second Quarter

Ike – 50.00%
Zidane Tribal – 48.45%
Prinny – 37.51%
Claptrap – 34.54%

Prinny gets 53.97% on Claptrap and 38.71% on Zidane.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:08 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
78------4------------75.00
77------18----------83.33
76------50----------72.00
75------62----------61.29
74------93----------53.76
73------126--------46.03
72------171--------43.86
71------219--------39.27
70------268--------38.43
69------395--------33.92
68------474--------35.65
67------621--------33.01
66------779--------38.13
65------948--------39.03
64------1114------36.89
63------1199------38.28
62------1294------39.72
61------1353------40.06
60------1312------40.09
59------1330------36.77
58------1267------38.75
57------1196------38.71
56------1134------34.22
55------1035------36.14
54------981--------34.45
53------935--------35.40
52------875--------36.80
51------732--------32.92
50------676--------35.65
49------629--------31.16
48------565--------32.21
47------529--------29.68
46------494--------27.53
45------403--------30.52
44------383--------26.63
43------299--------28.43
42------288--------30.90
41------226--------23.45
40------179--------29.61
39------127--------28.35
38------96----------27.08
37------85----------23.53
36------79----------27.85
35------62----------25.81
34------44----------15.91
33------26----------11.54
32------29----------20.69
31------25----------20.00
30------12----------16.67
29------17----------0.00
28------13----------7.69
27------11----------0.00
26------7------------14.29
25------5------------0.00
24------9------------11.11
23------5------------0.00
22------7------------14.29
21------8------------25.00

Everybody with a score of 20 or less got the match wrong.

Once again compared to the overall prediction percentage, the top performers did well. The -4s, -5s and -6s brackets broke 70 and the -7s and -8s stayed above 50. Prediction percentage fell into the low 30s after going down a few more tiers.

13 people fell off the Top 50 today. Shadowhiei, TheOceIot, bogalx, edgewalker16, Kiyala, Purist, pezzicle, TheMightyPeanut, ssbm1221, smasherx, lolo262626, Zylothewolf and Paratroopa1 didn't have Ike winning.

1 person got it wrong and survived. Safer_777 also didn't have Ike winning but manages to hang on 50th place.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:24 PM | message detail
The Games Contest really wasn't bad for old school games. Everything outside of the 32/64 division was horribly, horribly, overrated in 2004.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:34 PM | message detail
People need to realize, as I have now, that Zack's strength comes almost solely from looking like a Black Haired Cloud. Take that away from him and you get this. It would have been much closer in round 1. Unfortunate.

Mega Man will never touch Mario.

Lightning vs. Cid who you guys got?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:41 PM | message detail
Mario's board vote>Mega Man's board vote, but Mega Man's early vote>Mario's early vote.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:43 PM | message detail
Wasn't X beating Mario for a while in that one match last year?
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ToadYoshi | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:49 PM | message detail
Time to make wild, abstract assumptions based on the first few minutes.

You know who this is good for?

Sonic!

If we infer that Mega Man boosted to near-Mario levels, who knows how much of a boost Sonic can get from a 2D downloadable throwback. And Sonic probably needed it more, too. If this boost is bigger than we thought, we could be looking at a top 8 that can't be touched by even the near-elites, in which case Crono will be even more lolworthy. But let's wait for the game to come out first.
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Lopen | Posted 2/21/2010 9:16:55 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | #017
From: Lopen | #008

Lopes, you know how you and everyone else rarely agree on %ages or even which way the results go? This is one of those rare occasions where you were right.


I just don't see how anyone had Zack like... 60-40ing Cid or whatever. I often have weird thoughts on percentages, but I thought this one was well grounded in sanity.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 9:17:07 PM | message detail
Sorry Chris, sig bets only. I care waaaay more about this account name (which is a lot better than yours, let's get real) than I do about a Mario/Mega Man match.

I'm up for a sig bet if you are, though.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/21/2010 9:17:17 PM | message detail
Mega Man > Mario makes even less sense than Mega Man > Link in 2004, honestly. But I think I can swing it !!

MMX is barely worth 60% on Red/Ocelot. But the worst percentage he put up on Mario was around 44-45%, in the Link match I believe (and if you believe he's Nintendo then they both got thrashed, but Mario in particular to be fair - although, last place factor made up for that). MMX is significantly weaker than Mega Man, and this can work by the stats!

Please don't clutter this up with your 'common sense' now, people.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:17:30 PM | message detail
I take Cid over Lightning without a second thought. If you take Lightning over Cid you have to entertain Cecil over Cid.

Even I'm not that crazy anymore.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/21/2010 9:17:39 PM | message detail
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AmazingKirby | Posted 2/21/2010 9:17:47 PM | message detail
Oh my god, Yuna. >_>

I think Yuna would be doing about this well though. Zack must have heavily SFFed her.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 9:18:19 PM | message detail
And really, Mega Man X nearly beat Mario 3 times. Why is Mega Man Classic winning so out there?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 9:18:20 PM | message detail
This match DOES look good for Sonic. I myself found the entire Ganon/Kirby > Sonic hype to be a pipe dream. Probably from people hitting themselves in the head with pipes while filling out their entry.
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Lopen | Posted 2/21/2010 9:18:49 PM | message detail
Tidus only got 35% on Mega Man in 2004. Zack's probably lining up about right with Yuna expectations here
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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/21/2010 9:18:51 PM | message detail
How well does Master Chef do on Mega Man now?
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/21/2010 9:18:54 PM | message detail
Wrong train, guys! It's all about Mario > Link!

SFFed Falco > Thrall let's do this.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 9:19:15 PM | message detail
How does this match say anything about Sonic? Mega Man was always a step above Sonic and Crono.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 9:19:25 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #031
Mega Man > Mario makes even less sense than Mega Man > Link in 2004


It makes about as much sense as the-match-that-shall-not-be-named.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 9:19:36 PM | message detail
Lightning vs. Cid who you guys got?

Cid.

From: KamikazePotato | #035
And really, Mega Man X nearly beat Mario 3 times. Why is Mega Man Classic winning so out there?


Because Mega Man won't have the same advantages X did.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:19:40 PM | message detail
Top 10 Updates

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Pokemon Trainer Red – 50.16% vs. Revolver Ocelot – 49.84% (R1) – 0.32%
2. Missingno – 50.29% vs. Crono – 49.71% (R1) – 0.58%
3. Ken – 50.32% vs. Albert Wesker – 49.68% (R1) – 0.64%
4. Ike – 51.55% vs. Zidane Tribal – 48.45% (R2) – 3.10%
5. Knuckles the Echidna – 52.00% vs. Cecil Harvey – 48.00% (R1) – 4.00%
6. The Boss – 52.37% vs. Nathan Drake – 47.63% (R1) – 4.74%
7. Amaterasu – 52.59% vs. Shadow the Hedgehog – 47.41% (R1) – 5.18%
8. Jecht – 52.70% vs. Phoenix Wright – 47.30% (R1) – 5.40%
9. Gordon Freeman – 53.25% vs. Princess Peach – 46.75% (R1) – 6.50%
10. Weighted Companion Cube – 53.80% vs. The Boss – 46.20% (R2) – 7.60%


Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Ken – 36484 vs. Albert Wesker – 36013 (R1) – 471
2. Missingno – 45804 vs. Crono – 45277 (R1) – 527
3. Ike – 37182 vs. Zidane Tribal – 34953 (R2) – 2229
4. Knuckles the Echidna – 37437 vs. Cecil Harvey – 34558 (R1) – 2879
5. The Boss – 36615 vs. Nathan Drake – 33295 (R1) – 3320
6. Amaterasu – 41994 vs. Shadow the Hedgehog – 37852 (R1) – 4142
7. Gordon Freeman – 41389 vs. Princess Peach – 36330 (R1) – 5059
8. Weighted Companion Cube – 40132 vs. The Boss – 34466 (R2) – 5666
9. Sub-Zero – 41693 vs. Tidus – 35717 (R1) – 5976
10. Sackboy – 38845 vs. Kratos Aurion – 32320 (R1) – 6525


Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls
1. Link vs. Thrall (R1) – 60599
2. Link vs. Alucard (R2) – 59971
3. Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Revolver Ocelot (R1) – 58208
4. Mario vs. Big Boss (R2) – 57211
5. Charizard vs. Duke Nukem (R1) – 56465
6. Leon Kennedy vs. Vault Boy (R1) – 55924
7. Cloud Strife vs. Ridley (R1) – 55398
8. Luigi vs. Meta Knight (R1) – 55360
9. Big Daddy vs. Soap MacTavish (R1) – 55350
10. Mario vs. Falco Lombardi (R1) – 54944


Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Crono (R1) – 45277
2. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 37852
3. Princess Peach (R1) - 36330
4. Albert Wesker (R1) – 36013
5. Tidus (R1) – 35717
6. Zidane Tribal (R2) – 34953
7. Cecil Harvey (R1) – 34558
8. The Boss (R2) – 34466
9. Nathan Drake (R1) – 33295
10. Altair (R2) – 32944


Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Laharl (R1) – 31134
2. Ken (R1) – 36484
3. The Boss (R1) – 36615
4. Ike (R2) – 37182
5. Knuckles the Echidna (R1) – 37437
6. Alucard (R1) – 38150
7. Sackboy (R1) – 38845
8. GlaDOS (R1) – 39381
9. Weighted Companion Cube (R2) – 40132
10. Gordon Freeman (R1) – 41389


Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Vivi vs. Altair (R2) – 18.46%
2. Missingno vs. Crono (R1) – 21.94%
3. Ike vs. Zidane Tribal (R2) – 35.57%
4. Amaterasu vs. Shadow the Hedgehog (R1) – 36.27%
5. Weighted Companion Cube vs. The Boss (R2) – 38.31%
6. Vivi vs. Donkey Kong (R1) – 39.95%
7. Sub-Zero vs. Tidus (R1) – 41.68%
8. The Boss vs. Nathan Drake (R1) – 44.82%
9. Jecht vs. Phoenix Wright (R1) – 45.40%
10. Mega Man X vs. Pokemon Trainer Red (R2) – 46.24%

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:19:41 PM | message detail
Eh, we should still wait for the night vote to come before getting too excited. Board vote or not, this is still FFVII vs. Megaman, and Zack is going to cut percentage like mad later tonight.

Although I don't think anyone is really taking Megaman > Mario too seriously.

I'd totally take a Mario/Crono sig bet for Crono to break 45%, by the way.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 9:20:00 PM | message detail
I don't see why Cid > Lightning is a lock. Or even that Cid > Cecil would be a lock. Cecil looked great against Knuckles. People are putting the Sonic team down way too quickly. I don't see how you could possibly think that Cid would blow Lightning out of the water, or even that Cid is a heavy favorite.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 9:20:01 PM | message detail
This will probably end up closer to 60% by the time Europe butts in. Zack will still be stronger than Cid, and with a severe pic disadvantage.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/21/2010 9:20:02 PM | message detail
Wrong train, guys! It's all about Mario > Link!

I could almost wrangle Mario > Link out of Mario/Big Boss. If only it was a day match!
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 9:21:08 PM | message detail
Cid is more on Yuna's level, if not weaker anyway.

Zack is at a huge disadvantage here due to the pic, so if he breaks 40% I'd give him at least a few more percentage points in determining his regular picture strength.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 9:21:12 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX

From: Karma Hunter | #031
Mega Man > Mario makes even less sense than Mega Man > Link in 2004


It makes about as much sense as the-match-that-shall-not-be-named.


Ironically enough, unless Mario breaks 60% on Mega Man, the Samus > Mario train will be picking up steam again...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/21/2010 9:21:17 PM | message detail
So anyone know what happened to Yuna?
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