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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 843

TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/21/2010 8:34:29 PM | message detail
I really think you're overhyping this buster sword thing. The picture is clearly Zack Fair, anyone who knows him will know about he had the Buster Sword. I really don't think voters will look at a pic with the Buster Sword and be like "ZOMG MUST VOTE FOR THIS GUY NOW"
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 8:34:39 PM | message detail
I'm all for Aeris and Yuna being close, but Zack beating Auron is a tough pillow to swallow. Then again, I've got Auron > Squall.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:35:28 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 8:36:33 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #353
Not sure how you guys can take these clowns EternalxCourage and Sonic_Factor seriously. They've done nothing but spout unsupported nonsense and have yet to be correct since they started polluting the topics.


Comedic Gold.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 8:37:08 PM | message detail
Then again, I've got Auron > Squall.

That'll be a tougher pill for you to swallow!

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #353
Not sure how you guys can take these clowns EternalxCourage and Sonic_Factor seriously. They've done nothing but spout unsupported nonsense and have yet to be correct since they started polluting the topics.


This coming from BT...?

Hmmm...I don't know if I should go there...
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/21/2010 8:38:01 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #353
Not sure how you guys can take these clowns EternalxCourage and Sonic_Factor seriously. They've done nothing but spout unsupported nonsense and have yet to be correct since they started polluting the topics.


Almost sig-worthy, don't know if would fit the character limit.
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Ness26 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:39:04 PM | message detail
Zidane is at exactly 34000 votes right now. I think that's the second match in a row we've had someone end an update with a number divisible by 1000.

Not exactly unlikely. Let's say each character gets 35000 votes. You pass a 1000 marker 35 times in the match per character. Let's say we're at 160 votes per update. So roughly there's a 1/160 chance of landing on the 1000 mark each time you pass 100. For each character there's a 19.7% chance of landing on 1000. For two characters this comes out to 35.5% chance per match.

... I'm bored.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:40:08 PM | message detail
Everything I argue has at least some form of logic behind it and at least some statistical backing, even if it is heavily manipulated. Those 2 don't even try. And I've proven to be consistently right. Meanwhile we have garbage like Sonic > Mega Man and Ezio > Zelda coming from them.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:40:43 PM | message detail
I dunno some of the stuff that I've said has been right. Sonic did as I said he would against Knuckles, Zack blasted Yuna, Big Daddy is going to beat Ness, Altair beat Liquid (although he flopped against Vivi that's ok), Charizard is going to lose in a close battle against Sora.

Uh...what else. Oh yeah Ken looked decent against Ganon, hopefully Ryu is going to beat Dante :(

Zack has an outside shot against Mega Man and it's not going to be a blow out. If it is well..argh. Also Altair flopping burned a lot of people not just me.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/21/2010 8:41:05 PM | message detail
If Crono couldn't beat it, I don't see why Yoshi would. Then again, stranger things have happened.

L-Block in 2007 was a case of L-Block's strength being non-linear, as in losing to someone, then coming back to defeating someone even stronger in a later match. If L-Block could defeat stronger characters after losing to someone weaker in the past, this could work in reverse. Where Missingno defeats someone like Crono, then loses to a weaker character instead. I would imagine this could only happen through some extreme anti-voting by disappointed Crono fans who didn't like the fact that Missingno defeated Crono. I think anti-voting has been a non-factor so far as far as joke characters go. HK-47 wasn't even close to defeating L-Block this contest.

I think Missingno could even get some votes from people who would normally vote for Yoshi instead. If Nintendo fans are smart, they will see Missingno as their option to knocking out Sephiroth and might vote for Missingno instead of Yoshi just to make sure Missingno reaches Sephiroth.

L-Block lost the board vote consistently in 2008 too.

L-Block managed to win the board vote in round 1 of the last contest.

Ike is getting beaten in every single region except the US, Canada, and the Netherlands.

Mexico as well:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3803&region=MX
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 8:41:24 PM | message detail
I do admit that BT isn't as bad as those two, but still, he's not one who should be calling out people for arguing stuff without anything to back it up.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/21/2010 8:41:34 PM | message detail
You're hilarious. I've never stated Sonic > MM or that Ezio > Zelda this year.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:44:15 PM | message detail
We all knew Sonic was going to beat the piss out of Knuckles, most of the guys here agreed that Zack was going to clobber Yuna, Big Daddy isn't guaranteed to beat Ness at all, and neither is Charizard. I'm still not sold on Charizard being good and I think Duke Nukem was as heavily, if not more heavily overrated than anyone else the last 2 years. And Altair went out and proved that one. A lot of people also had Vivi > Altair > Liquid (me included). The people who didn't were caught up on Liquid's flukey match that anyone with an iota of contest knowledge would recognize.

Zack has no shot against Mega Man and he'll be closer to 40% than he will to 45%.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:45:43 PM | message detail
Everything I argue has at least some form of logic behind it and at least some statistical backing, even if it is heavily manipulated. Those 2 don't even try. And I've proven to be consistently right. Meanwhile we have garbage like Sonic > Mega Man and Ezio > Zelda coming from them.

I've already pointed out many different statistics that would provide support for my opinions. But at least I don't act like an elitist *****. The reality is that you don't know what's going to happen come match time. Everyone thought Altair was going to win (most people) against Vivi and it didn't happen. You can only make educated guesses when it comes to these polls and people would do well to remember that.

I believe certain things that may or may not come true, but I'm open minded to everyone's opinions. You guys should be less head up your asses and try to be a little more open minded. I'm pretty sure that Sonic > Mega Man has about as much statistical backing as Mega Man > Sonic, if not more.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/21/2010 8:46:52 PM | message detail
It appears Ike prances into Round 3. How lucky for him, Zidane would have beat him in a 24 hour poll
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:48:12 PM | message detail
I agree, I think that Zidane beats Ike in a 24 hour poll, or a 12 hour night match.

That said, BT are you going to slam your fingers with cement blocks when Zack isn't closer to 40% than 45?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 8:49:23 PM | message detail
Looks like Zidane is gonna end up winning the final two hours here.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:49:39 PM | message detail
Then let's see something that isn't from 2006 and only shows them being half a percent off from eachother. I've already shown you that Mega Man didn't drop at all the last 2 years through his match against Samus, while Sonic is clearly sucking hard with his loss to Auron, his near loss to SFF'd Squall, his abortion of a performance against Sub-Zero in 2007 and him doing worse on a character whose game hasn't even come out than Mega Man did against a Final Fantasy 7 PC.

Add in the fact that the Sonic Fail Crew has been collectively sucking hard (aside from that weird Tails/Kratos match) while the Mega Man Awesome Crew has looked at least consistent with 2006, if not more impressive.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:50:15 PM | message detail
Mega Man with the doubling for the first hour?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:50:33 PM | message detail
Man there's a lot of anger in this topic time to defuse it.

Sora > Mario is a damn lock choo choo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTeDAst3KA0&feature=related
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:51:10 PM | message detail
So what are you basing Cid > Lightning on when it has been proven that characters have a substantial amount of power in the hype phase?
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 8:51:46 PM | message detail
And I've proven to be consistently right.

If his first post didn't, this quote DOES fit into the sig-limit. =)
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:52:10 PM | message detail
This should be good. Zack probably wins (relatively) the first 5 minutes, Megaman dominates the first hour, then Zack kills the 4-6 AM block.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/21/2010 8:52:21 PM | message detail
Lol, it's hilarious that you make these assumptions about what I thought of matches. Most being wrong. I have Zelda > Ezio. It won't be close. I had vivi > altair, and I have MM > Zach. MM will win DUH, but not with 60%. I already said I think zach will hit 44/45. I'm guessing you're butthurt over my opinions on Sonic > Kirby and Sonic > ganondorf. Which any competent person would have in their bracket.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:53:13 PM | message detail
What characters have "a substantial amount of power in the hype phase"? The only argument for that is 2006 Snake, and that was more a result of him being exposed to a totally different fanbase through essentially the most hyped game of this generation.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:53:19 PM | message detail
Zack > Sonic (but he's still not beating MM tonight, sadly)
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/21/2010 8:54:26 PM | message detail
Ness26, your math was right but your assumption was wrong. If a character gets 35000 votes then he averages 243 an update. That puts the odds of a specific character getting it at13.5% and any character at 25.1%. Still not as ridiculously unlikely as I had thought it would be.
I'm bored too.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:54:59 PM | message detail
I have Sonic > both of them, but only because of Round 3 Bacondorf match pic. I think Ganon would take it in a squeaker in any other situation.

I'm still not sold on Kirby being an elite character.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:55:14 PM | message detail
Most hyped game of this generation please. @_@

Master Chief has had a great deal of power due to hype, Sonic seemingly boosted due to brawl hype, etc.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 8:55:40 PM | message detail
And I'm gonna guess Zack aims for...let's go with 42.5%.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/21/2010 8:56:01 PM | message detail
For reference, Mega Man has 68% at the freeze against Cid and ended with 63%. I'm expecting a similar drop from the freeze tonight.
nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:56:32 PM | message detail
From: EternalxCourage | #364
Everyone thought Altair was going to win (most people) against Vivi and it didn't happen. You can only make educated guesses when it comes to these polls and people would do well to remember that.

Vivi was the guru favourite and of the stats regulars these people took Vivi:
NGamer
HaRR
red sox
Ulti
tranny
TRE
Yoblazer
KP
me
Voltch
BT
RPGuy

People who took Altair:
Albion
Curt

http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=72
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:56:33 PM | message detail
It seems more like you manipulate stats to look like what you want them to, and I do the same. It's not like it's a perfect science. You aren't some stat god or you would have won a contest by now.

That said, again, what basis do you have for Cid being stronger than Lightning?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/21/2010 8:56:44 PM | message detail
This should be good. Zack probably wins (relatively) the first 5 minutes, Megaman dominates the first hour, then Zack kills the 4-6 AM block.

Zack winning the board vote would be interesting. I remember Mega Man getting the board vote against Cid last round, so I'm not sure on this one.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 8:56:48 PM | message detail
ZackFAQs will have a better board-vote than Cid.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/21/2010 8:57:02 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #375
What characters have "a substantial amount of power in the hype phase"? The only argument for that is 2006 Snake, and that was more a result of him being exposed to a totally different fanbase through essentially the most hyped game of this generation.


2007 MC disagrees with this statement
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:57:14 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage
So what are you basing Cid > Lightning on when it has been proven that characters have a substantial amount of power in the hype phase?


And aside from that, Sonic went up against Lightning in his best time. Mega Man beat Cid down during his worst time and FF7's best.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/21/2010 8:57:50 PM | message detail
That was before his match against Liquid, ngirl, thank you for trying to manipulate the situation though. Brackets were submitted before the contest. There's no arguing that people thought Altair was the favorite after his performance on Liquid, no need to be ignorant.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:57:51 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #375
What characters have "a substantial amount of power in the hype phase"? The only argument for that is 2006 Snake, and that was more a result of him being exposed to a totally different fanbase through essentially the most hyped game of this generation.


2007 MC disagrees with this statement


Despite the fact that he vastly improved between round 1 and 2?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 8:58:29 PM | message detail
Final ZackFAQs of the year, boys. Let's make it a good one.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 8:59:00 PM | message detail
Ready for another anticlimactic night match where a supposed near elite bombs against a Noble Niner?

I'm not.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 8:59:10 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_7rmGlo-1U

Time to bust out an oldie but goodie.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 8:59:22 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1
From: EternalxCourage | #364
Everyone thought Altair was going to win (most people) against Vivi and it didn't happen. You can only make educated guesses when it comes to these polls and people would do well to remember that.

Vivi was the guru favourite and of the stats regulars these people took Vivi:
NGamer
HaRR
red sox
Ulti
tranny
TRE
Yoblazer
KP
me
Voltch
BT
RPGuy

People who took Altair:
Albion
Curt

<span><a class="linkclass" href="http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=72">http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=72</a></span>


To be fair, a lot of those stats regulars jumped on the Altair wagon after round 1. A better comparison would be to look at our Oracles (in which I still underestimated Vivi by 2% :( )
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 8:59:29 PM | message detail
Unlike Big Boss, Zack isn't overrated!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 8:59:39 PM | message detail
*picked Vivi > Altair in the Oracle*
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ToadYoshi | Posted 2/21/2010 9:00:01 PM | message detail
Let's just try not to all be disappointed, ok?
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Master Moltar | Posted 2/21/2010 9:00:12 PM | message detail
Mega Man 70.59%

12
Zack Fair 29.41%

5
TOTAL VOTES 17
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 9:00:17 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Mega Man 65.22%

15
Zack Fair 34.78%

8
TOTAL VOTES 23

Oh boy.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 9:00:18 PM | message detail
Mega Man 66.67%

12
Zack Fair 33.33%

6
TOTAL VOTES 18

I am disappoint.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 9:00:21 PM | message detail
rofl zack
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