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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 843

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/21/2010 4:28:43 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 4:30:35 PM | message detail
MissingNo is going to crush Yoshi, and whatever he does against Sephiroth will be unreliable both because of the bandwagoning factor as well as the fact that Sephiroth is so heavily anti-voted. The problem is we don't have an accurate read on Mega Man because he got stuck in awkward situations throughout the fourways. Actually, going by his 2007 match with Samus/Ryu/Cloud, he only did about 1% worse on Samus than 2006 stats suggest.

Mega Man (2006c) VS Samus (2006c)

Mega Man has a strength of 38.41.
Samus has a strength of 45.85.

Samus wins with 58.11% of the vote!
A win of 20,683 with 127,464 total votes cast.

vs

Wait... for some reason the lol xstats are using the Samus/Yoshi/Mega Man match for Mega Man's stats...

Oh well, doing the math she got about 59% on him, and that's with another Capcom character in the poll.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 4:34:34 PM | message detail
And this year's stats will probably go:

Link
Cloud

Sephiroth
Missigno

Crono
Samus
Snake

Sonic
Mario
Mega Man

But that's only because Missigno is going to look great on Sephy, win or lose, and Mario gets railed by Link

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 4:35:00 PM | message detail
Missingno had better crush Yoshi. I'm glad so many people think he should be a lock, because I feel nervous, way more nervous than I probably should be, but that thing is carrying Crono's honor.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 4:36:17 PM | message detail
If Crono couldn't beat it, I don't see why Yoshi would. Then again, stranger things have happened.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/21/2010 4:37:05 PM | message detail
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 4:37:31 PM | message detail
Yoshi would win because Missingno hates me and just wanted to make Crono look bad.

I know, not at all reasonable, but I can't help it.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 4:39:44 PM | message detail
I won't be surprised if Yoshi breaks 55% in that match.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/21/2010 4:42:38 PM | message detail
Red Sox, you should hope that Missingno beats Sephy and then loses to Snake. That shows that Missingno. has legitimate strength at the top of the noble nine (10) and that Crono may have become stronger than Sephiroth. Of course, that also puts Snake ahead of Sephy, which is probably only slightly less unreasonable than No. losing to Yoshi. I would say hope he (it?) loses to Link, but we all know what's gonna happen if No. makes it to the finals.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 4:46:08 PM | message detail
Missingno beating Yoshi and then losing to Seph would be the best possible result for my bracket. Yoshi winning would cost me no ground at all (I doubt any leading bracket has Yoshi winning two rounds), but even a Missingno Round 2 win won't cost me much, and then the loss will probably make Sephiroth even more hated. That's just what Snake needs.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 2/21/2010 4:48:52 PM | message detail
I won't be surprised if Mizno breaks 55% on Yoshi.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 4:57:22 PM | message detail
What's the rationale behind Yoshi > Missigno? Aside from that mess with Pikachu and L-Block last year?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/21/2010 4:59:32 PM | message detail
I just don't think the penultimate fan favorite Nintendo character can be effectively rallied against, and using Crono > Yoshi linearity to disprove that is ridiculous.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/21/2010 4:59:39 PM | message detail
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #263
What's the rationale behind Yoshi > Missigno? Aside from that mess with Pikachu and L-Block last year?

MissingNo gets support from jokes and Nintendo.

Yoshi SFFs the everloving god out of it's nintendo support and leaves it at WCC/L-Block level which this year don't look anywhere near enough to challenge Yoshi.

Makes sense.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 5:00:23 PM | message detail
Ike is getting beaten in every single region except the US, Canada, and the Netherlands.

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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/21/2010 5:00:35 PM | message detail
So, what % do people figure Zack will get on MM? I'm thinking 45%
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/21/2010 5:08:16 PM | message detail
What if SFF goes the other way? I don't mean rSFF, but what happens if MissingNo really is the stronger Nintendo character and SFFs Yoshi into oblivion?
I'm still not sold on this joke thing. I didn't see joke trends in the match versus Crono. I saw power trends from a universally-used extremely-beneficial glitch in a game almost everyone loved who pulled in enough votes to beat one of the top 10 characters in these contests.
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 5:10:47 PM | message detail
The Netherlands: Nintendo's one stronghold in Europe

For whatever the reason.

And aw yeah, ZackFAQs sparking discussion!
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ffmasterjose | Posted 2/21/2010 5:12:38 PM | message detail
I'm definitely in the "He just beat Crono so why can't he beat Yoshi" camp
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 5:13:15 PM | message detail
Also, I wouldn't bring up GOTY polls to discount Crisis Core's effect. We've already seen that Dissidia has had an apparent effect on at least Kefka and maybe Cecil and Terra as well. Handheld games almost never do well here (Mario Kart DS being the notable exception, but that was in a weak year overall and it was a Mario Kart game anyway), but that doesn't mean they can't have some impact on the characters that are in them. I doubt Zack Fair would be stronger than Aerith without Crisis Core. There's just no reason for that to be true.

(No, the Buster Sword isn't a legitimate reason)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2010 5:22:43 PM | message detail
Oh, and since this is looking like it's going to end around 52/48 (which is what Knux got on Cecil), let's ask this:

Ike vs. Knuckles: Who you got?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/21/2010 5:42:52 PM | message detail
Give me Ike for now.
SonicRaptor | Posted 2/21/2010 5:54:49 PM | message detail
Knuckles
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 5:58:46 PM | message detail
As much as I like Zidane, I like Ike almost as much and Ike has a long history of heartbreak. It's nice to see him get over the hump and win a debated match.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 5:59:24 PM | message detail
Zidane>=Cecil so...probably Ike.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 5:59:51 PM | message detail
Ike > Knuckles and Zidane > Cecil, por favor. Looking at 2005, I'll definitely take 23.28% on Crono over 24.79% on Kirby. Old-Square's taken a dip over recent years with Dissidia being their recent savior, and even then I haven't heard much about Cecil in Dissidia but understand Zidane's one of the better characters in it.
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ZFS | Posted 2/21/2010 6:01:06 PM | message detail
FFIV DS was probably a bigger deal for Cecil than Dissidia, I think.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 6:05:04 PM | message detail
Weighed Companion Cube and L-Block will do what most of the regulars around here expected. It's Missingno who might screw up everyone's bracket.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 6:06:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, why the improperly-censored-expletives would you worry about L-Block and WCC when Missingno's the real threat?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/21/2010 6:11:11 PM | message detail
170 minutes until ZackFAQs
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 6:11:49 PM | message detail
Best result for me would be Link beating Missingno in the final. It would show that these contests are not a joke- that jokes can be beaten with enough strength- and yet Crono would still look amazingly good, and one of my favorite characters would win the contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 6:11:50 PM | message detail
What percentage against Zack do you think Mega Man needs to be the favorite character Mario?

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/21/2010 6:15:26 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #284
What percentage against Zack do you think Mega Man needs to be the favorite character Mario?

AHAHAHAHAHA
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 6:16:24 PM | message detail
Serious question! Mega Man in general seems to be on the rise this year, so why not contemplate an awesome yet unlikely upset?

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/21/2010 6:17:27 PM | message detail
Missingno might have beaten Crono because of rallying but without rallying he still would have gotten at least 47-48% on him. People are completely overestimating the rallying Missingno got. His base strength still dwarfs any other joke we've ever seen.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/21/2010 6:23:56 PM | message detail
We also don't need 4-ways to have a joke run.

Just go ask StarCraft.
HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 6:25:16 PM | message detail
The only joke about Starcraft's run was that it was a 16-seed.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/21/2010 6:33:14 PM | message detail
Well, Mega Man almost beat Samus in the sprite round, why not Mario? Samus > Mario afterall!
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creativename | Posted 2/21/2010 6:36:23 PM | message detail
I just saw that Sora's facing Laharl at night.

Sora might flop %age-wise there. He absolutely sucks at night, and his morning vote is only mediocre compared to his ASV.


People are completely overestimating the rallying Missingno got. His base strength still dwarfs any other joke we've ever seen.

The base strength of jokes is highly variable. Missingno was this year's "hyped joke". L-Block is old news, and thus has less base strength than during his run.

There are also jokes jokes who are examples of highly variable base strength - e.g. Sonic.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 6:38:42 PM | message detail
There's a Yoshi in the way of your sprite-match comparison, BT.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 6:39:04 PM | message detail
The base strength of jokes is highly variable. Missingno was this year's "hyped joke". L-Block is old news, and thus has less base strength than during his run.

L-Block now > L-Block in Round 1 of 2k7

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/21/2010 6:39:29 PM | message detail
Oh, and Missingno was very, very underhyped. Remember that Crono won the board vote against him.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/21/2010 6:41:54 PM | message detail
In the last hour and a half, Ike has gained a total of 30 votes. I wonder if Zidane might be able to win these final two hours.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 2/21/2010 6:42:09 PM | message detail
Hyped jokes only matter late in the tournament. The average voter doesn't look at the bracket, get all excited about Missingno. and start trying to curry votes for it. Missingno. just drew in a lot of votes.
red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 6:42:52 PM | message detail
L-Block lost the board vote consistently in 2008 too. Or rather, it lost the board vote but won the first hour convincingly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/21/2010 6:44:40 PM | message detail
I think people were excited for Missingno. That's the only way to really explain the ridiculously high votals- it's not like Crono's a big vote draw. The big Samus/Crono/Vincent/Pikachu match last year was shockingly enough one of the lowest drawing matches of the contest.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
creativename | Posted 2/21/2010 6:45:06 PM | message detail
Oh, and Missingno was very, very underhyped. Remember that Crono won the board vote against him.

How would this mean he was underhyped...? Missingno hype was very very highly, especially with the Pokecraze in recent contests.


Hyped jokes only matter late in the tournament. The average voter doesn't look at the bracket, get all excited about Missingno. and start trying to curry votes for it. Missingno. just drew in a lot of votes.

You can't honestly believe Missingno would have had Noble Nine level strength back before L-Block became the Jackie Robinson of jokes.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/21/2010 6:47:29 PM | message detail
You can tell Missingno was hyped just because of the number of people you've seen having him win the championship for a newcomer. The leaderboard's had him on quite a bit compered to other not-Link brackets. It happened to Sandbag too, if I remember correctly, and Magus/Sandbag was definitely hyped.
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