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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 840

Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/19/2010 9:49:47 AM | message detail

Is this a joke post.

Please tell me this is a joke post and you're just trolling Leon.


I'm... not seeing the problem here.

There's a blatant Kingdom Hearts/Nintendo overlap. It's not much, but it's there. And Sora was got over 48% on Squall anyway so my post makes perfect sense.
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 9:51:03 AM | message detail
Man, if Sora couldn't beat Squall with Cloud in the poll (Squall's absolute worst opponent and undoubtedly worse for Squall than for Sora), he's not beating Squall, period. Not before KHIII.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/19/2010 9:51:45 AM | message detail
There's a blatant Kingdom Hearts/Nintendo overlap.

Examples, please.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/19/2010 9:52:31 AM | message detail
Let's not use outdated stats now. The newer ones contradict them so we really can't use them anymore. Unless you think Yoshi and Fox SFF'd Squall.
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 9:53:22 AM | message detail
Let's not use outdated stats now.

Squall/Sora/Cloud/Mewtwo is the most recent match they had!

Unless you're talking about the Squall/Sora/Sonic/Sub-Zero match, in which case I must ask: What changed from then to now to make Sora > Squall?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 9:54:17 AM | message detail
Sora can't beat Squall. 1v1 4way, doesn't matter.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/19/2010 9:57:02 AM | message detail
C'mon Ken, push for 36%!
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The Real Truth | Posted 2/19/2010 9:57:15 AM | message detail
Squall would crush Sora's face in like he has multiple times.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/19/2010 9:57:29 AM | message detail
All in all, this is a good show for both characters. Ken is probably going to avoid the doubling, and Ganondorf isn't embarrassing himself in spite of his Elevator Ganon picture. I just wish I wasn't busy during the ASV - that'll be entertaining, that's for sure!

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/19/2010 9:57:34 AM | message detail
In both of those matches last year, Sora would have beaten Squall if he wasn't mysteriously weak in the UK. More importantly, if you remove Yoshi and Fox or Mewtwo, he probably would have won. One on one, Squall wouldn't break 51% on Sora if he did win.

Squall still wins both those matches if you take out the UK,with 50.99% with Fox/Yoshi and 50.22% with Cloud/Mewtwo.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 9:58:11 AM | message detail
Aw yeah, Elevator Ganon, hopefully that sticks around like Imodium Ghaleon!
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/19/2010 9:58:36 AM | message detail
The only way Sora beats Squall is with a stick after Squall has just taken Rohypnol.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/19/2010 9:59:03 AM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts and Nintendo have very similar patterns and have similar audiences among the voters. There's bound to be some overlap. You don't need to have solid ties to share an audience-I thought we'd all realised that. Nothing huge, but enough to give Sora an extra 1% on Squall.

Also Leonheart you assume Cloud would hurt Squall significantly more than he would Sora(including whatever damage Mewtwo does) which really doesn't have much justification behind it, and considering the consistency between rounds, likely isn't the case.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/19/2010 9:59:57 AM | message detail
Good examples.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:00:43 AM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts and Nintendo have very similar patterns and have similar audiences among the voters.

That's because they're both more popular in America than everywhere else.

Also Leonheart you assume Cloud would hurt Squall significantly more than he would Sora(including whatever damage Mewtwo does) which really doesn't have much justification behind it, and considering the consistency between rounds, likely isn't the case.

So Mewtwo LFF'd Sora just as hard as Fox + Yoshi did then? I don't buy that. The consistency between rounds would be more proof that there was no overlap between Sora and Nintendo in the first place.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/19/2010 10:00:48 AM | message detail
I was told otherwise in the geolocation data topic. should have fact checked.

Far from my point though.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/19/2010 10:01:19 AM | message detail
A Kingdom Hearts/Nintendo overlap makes even less sense than this idiotic CT/Castlevania overlap people keep harping about. Squall certainly didn't get his huge boost in 2003 from a GBA game! I doubt the GBA or DS games are what keeps him in the same area as Vincent and Crono! I doubt Sora was held back by ****ing Yoshi when the two have nothing in common.

Why do we keep getting consecutively dumber people? First there was Tsunami, then Eternal, and now this guy.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:02:53 AM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Ken does better here if his name is listed as either "Ken (Street Fighter)" or "Ken Masters."
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:03:14 AM | message detail
Fact
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/19/2010 10:04:27 AM | message detail
Technically Fact, I guess, though probably only by five or so votes.

Still, that's five more than he has right now.
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ZFS | Posted 2/19/2010 10:04:37 AM | message detail
Fact.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:05:49 AM | message detail
Also, assuming Ken = Akuma, Squall beats Ganondorf with 55.30% as of right now.

Hmmm...Looks good to me!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:32 AM | message detail
Except Ken > Akuma
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:34 AM | message detail
I also agree.If his name was Ken(Street Fighter)then he would surely do better.Maybe they should do that from now on for all characters?
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:37 AM | message detail
Also Leonheart you assume Cloud would hurt Squall significantly more than he would Sora(including whatever damage Mewtwo does) which really doesn't have much justification behind it, and considering the consistency between rounds, likely isn't the case.

This is what Cloud did to Squall thanks to SFF.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Cloud_Strife_vs_Squall_2004

You think he SFF's Sora by that much too?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:47 AM | message detail
I'd take Ken over Akuma. I really don't think Squall could hit 55% on Ganondorf.
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TheOceIot | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:49 AM | message detail
Is Vivi>Altair almost a sure thing?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:06:59 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #273
Except Ken > Akuma


Psh, no way! If anything, Squall's not winning by enough!
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:07:12 AM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #272
Also, assuming Ken = Akuma, Squall beats Ganondorf with 55.30% as of right now.

Hmmm...Looks good to me!


What if Ken 55-45s Akuma indirectly.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:07:28 AM | message detail

From: TheOceIot | #277
Is Vivi>Altair almost a sure thing?


At this point, Vivi is the underdog. I don't think either one is a sure thing, but Altair is (and should be) the favorite.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/19/2010 10:07:41 AM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts and Nintendo have very similar patterns and have similar audiences among the voters. There's bound to be some overlap.

Everything has overlap. You need to show proof that the overlap actually leads to SFF or LFF. I'm not sure I'd even agree with the "similar audiences" considering Kingdom Hearts is primarily a Playstation series. Similar trends is not a strong enough connection to claim SFF or LFF will defintely occur.

You don't need to have solid ties to share an audience-I thought we'd all realised that.

Those are the exceptions not the rules. In almost every case, you need a pretty strong connection.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:08:07 AM | message detail
What if Ken 55-45s Akuma indirectly.

Preposterous. I won't even dignify things that suggest Squall = Ganondorf with a response beyond this!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:08:20 AM | message detail
Is Vivi>Altair almost a sure thing?

I would say Altair is the favourite going in.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:09:26 AM | message detail
It's an afternoon match so Altair might be the favorite.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/19/2010 10:09:39 AM | message detail
It's difficult providing examples of something which has very little data for or against it, and is only slight in the first place.

So Mewtwo LFF'd Sora just as hard as Fox + Yoshi did then? I don't buy that. The consistency between rounds would be more proof that there was no overlap between Sora and Nintendo in the first place.

Mewtwo got about 55% of Yoshi's and Fox's total, and Sora increased on Squall by about 0.4%. If we assume consistency and remove Mewtwo, Sora puts up 49% on Squall, and that's assuming he doesn't get more from Mewtwo. Either way I think we both agree that 51% on Sora doesn't reflect to well on Squall.

Those calculations were rough though because I rushed them, for now I must go.
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:10:39 AM | message detail
Ken breaking 36% soon. awwww ya
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:11:18 AM | message detail
So Mewtwo LFF'd Sora MORE than Fox and Yoshi combined then? That seems even harder to believe since Yoshi is likely stronger than Mewtwo.

And I already said I think pretty highly of Sora's strength, more than most. Squall getting 52%~ on Sora isn't that bad to me.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:12:11 AM | message detail
Ken is going to get killed once the ASV starts

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3799&region=NAM
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:12:43 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3799&region=SAM

South America more like Capcom central
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:12:47 AM | message detail
Squall hitting 52% on Sora seems the range I'd place it. Sora did get 45.5% on MM afterall. Can't go much higher for Squall.
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ZFS | Posted 2/19/2010 10:13:18 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3799&region=PH

Here we go.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:13:47 AM | message detail
And Ken's actually got about 40% in Europe right about now. Not too bad.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3799&region=PH

Oh those Philippinos and their anti-Zelda ways.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/19/2010 10:14:08 AM | message detail
South America more like Capcom central

South America is a huge fan of fighters, Mega Man and Crono.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:14:37 AM | message detail
I like Europe, they don't greatly favor Nintendo or Square like NA/Asia.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:15:14 AM | message detail
Europe's a pretty heavy Square supporter, aren't they?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:15:32 AM | message detail
NICE ken
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:15:37 AM | message detail
Well, at least Square games that were released there (Whoops, CT).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/19/2010 10:16:26 AM | message detail
Ha, 36% get for Ken.

So...Ken vs. Lightning, who you got?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/19/2010 10:18:19 AM | message detail
South America more like Capcom central

Plus, they like their fighting games.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/19/2010 10:19:46 AM | message detail
From what I've seen no they don't greatly side with Square. It's much more balanced than when looking at either NA or Asia. It's not only that, but even non nintendo/square companies do a hell of a lot better.
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