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Peach has never really looked that strong to me. Being even with Jill in 2006 and losing to Meta Knight in 2007 isn't all that impressive compared to what Gordon did last year.
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Peach>Gordon 2k8 would be a decently big upset. After how Valve has been performing (Ellis doesn't count), Gordon probably boosted yet again.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

aw yeah Gordon Freeman finally becoming a respectable character in these contests.
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

I'm considering a Pokemon boost since 2008. Charizard and Missingno are inconclusive of course, since they're newcomers, but they did exceedingly well. Pikachu did pretty well, and so did Mewtwo. It's been a year and 3 months more time to let the hate wear off, a year and 3 months more to let the N64/PS1 generation take over this site from the SNES/Genesis generation.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

My tiering was just an example guys.

Although if we are going by most recent 1v1 results, Sonic > Mega Man > Crono in terms of tiering.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

I'm considering a Pokemon boost since 2008. Charizard and Missingno are inconclusive of course, since they're newcomers, but they did exceedingly well. Pikachu did pretty well, and so did Mewtwo. It's been a year and 3 months more time to let the hate wear off, a year and 3 months more to let the N64/PS1 generation take over this site from the SNES/Genesis generation.

Mewtwo did about as expected. There's also the Pokemon Gen 5 hype that's been around that started after Mewtwo's match.

Although if we are going by most recent 1v1 results, Sonic > Mega Man > Crono in terms of tiering.

You are free to argue that Sonic vs Lightning shouldn't count since Lightning is an unknown quantity. But if you want to count it, there's no way it makes Sonic look better than Mega Man.
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From: TheKoolAidShoto | #281
How has Mario/Sonic NOT happen yet >_>

The funny thing is that, if Sonic survives the division and makes it to Link, Mario will be the only fellow Noble Niner Sonic has never faced in any format.
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"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."

Anyone else here who'd consider talking Ridley > Liquid Snake?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Well, I guess you could count Mario World vs. Sonic 2 as sorta facing off, but nobody counts that!
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

I firmly believe that Lightning would beat Cid. I don't see why she wouldn't. Cid is actually a lot less popular than people think, and Lightning is riding the coat-tails of the highly anticipated FFXIII. She can only get stronger from here for sure, but that isn't to say she is a slouch. Her design has been around for a long time, and most gamers know that she is the female version of Cloud.

She's also the star of the first new-gen FF. Although that didn't do much for Tidus, she is decidedly different. It's going to be almost impossible to tell whether or not she is actually stronger -- but I think she is.

Sonic > Mega Man > Crono still holds in my mind.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

The more matches we've seen, the more we've seen that strength in 4-ways and 1v1s is the same. Even jokes- who were supposedly the characters who gained the most from 4-ways- look about the same in this format. You can't ignore 2007 and 2008 for Sonic and pretend he's still at his 2006 strength.
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

And I guess since everyone's getting in on the fun, I will, too!

Leonhart's Grades of Round 1!

Hyrule Division

Link - At the beginning of the contest, this looked like a pretty bad performance. After getting through one round and seeing how only one character has been able to surpass Link's percentage (and he needed SFF to boot), I'm willing to cut him a little slack. Still not a great performance, but not as bad as originally thought.

Grade: C

Thrall - This is the guy who once outright lost the day vote to Ratchet, but then he goes out and gets 20% on Link 1-on-1. Pretty impressive. I have a feeling that everyone who faced a Noble Niner in round 1 is gonna end up overrated in the stats though, so don't be taking Thrall to beat too many people, even when he ends up at 20% on Link!

Grade: C

Alucard - Alucard took a debated match and owned it from beginning to end. He never even lost a 5 minute update the entire match. I think that was more impressive to me than anything else. Alucard showed that Castlevania's still got a little bit left in the tank.

Grade: A

Magus - On the other end of the spectrum, what can you say about this guy that hasn't already been said at this point? The only positive you can take from this match is that he managed not to have the most embarrassing CT performance of the round!

Grade: F

Pokemon Trainer Red - If I had the expectations that some people had for Red, I'd give him a really bad grade. As it is, I didn't expect Red to be too strong, just strong enough to beat Ocelot, which he was. Congratulations.

Grade: C

Revolver Ocelot - Another debated match, another close loss for Ocelot. At least this wasn't like Pac-Man or Jill 2008 where he was an overwhelming favorite to beat them and lost. He was a pretty heavy underdog and led for a good portion of the match. Can't give him too hard a time here.

Grade: C-

Captain John Price - A lot of people were surprised that Price was able to avoid the doubling. I didn't have MMX going as high as some people did, but I was still pretty impressed with Price. And you couldn't even blame it on bracket voting due to being the higher seed since X had 3/4 of the bracket. After Soap dropped the soap against Big Daddy, Price looks to be the only CoD guy worth bringing back next time.

Grade: B-

Mega Man X - I've never been of the opinion that MMX is automatically as strong as Mega Man, and I think this performance kinda confirmed it. I think it was more indicative of X's weakness than Price's strength, though I'm not trying to take anything away from how well Price did. If this were 35% on someone on Mega Man's level, that'd be one thing, but Price isn't going to be going toe to toe with Cid Highwind any time soon (at least I don't think so! Maybe I'm wrong!).

Grade: C-

Luigi - It's hard to grade SFF matches because of what they are. They don't really tell you anything. At least Luigi was able to SFF Meta Knight and didn't struggle with him. That's about all I can say here.

Grade: C

Meta Knight - Again, SFF matches are hard to grade. Obviously, Meta Knight could have done better and resisted SFF better, but 35% isn't too bad.

Grade: C-

Amaterasu - She won one of the most heavily debated matches of the first round, and she did so fairly easily. Despite how close the match was percentage-wise, Ammy was in control the whole time and was never threatened by Shadow. A lot of people doubted she could carry over that 4-way strength to 1-on-1s, but I think she showed us she can.

Grade: B

Shadow the Hedgehog - Man, I'm glad I didn't pick this guy!

Grade: D
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I don't see why not. The problem with Sonic's Fanbase at this point is that, while he still has a lot of hardcore fans, his fanbase is largely static. With other characters in the poll and his fanbase being split it's easy for him to look weaker than some other characters. It is largely due to Sega breaking down and his games not being so great (at least according to most). That said I still think a large amount of people will always vote for him in a one on one (some more than others). Some people might like Auron more than Sonic, but not like Sub-Zero as much and vice-versa. In a 4 way Sonic only stands to lose because of how he has progressed through the generations (although dare I say he might be making a turn-around with Sonic 4).

Anyway, with the announcement of Sonic 4, and the return to 1 on 1s I would expect that he would return to his former 'glory' and remain the strongest of the Crono/Mega Man/Sonic trio.

Lightning > Cid. I personally don't believe Mega Man, nor Sonic, would have lost to MissingNo.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

woo grades

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Weighted Companion Cube - Well, we wanted to see what joke-type characters could do 1-on-1, and the Cube certainly delivered. Yeah, it was against one of the weakest characters we've ever seen in these contests, but Cube surpassed nearly everyone's expectations and nearly got a quadrupling in a contest where most characters haven't been able to get that high. It proved that the joke characters can do well 1-on-1 and get large percentages of the vote.

Grade: A

Sandal - Enchantment?

Grade: F?

Nathan Drake - Everyone knew that this wasn't going to be the same guy who lost to CATS last year, but nobody was sure if Uncharted 2 could provide enough of a boost to beat The Boss. He came up short, but at least he didn't lay a total egg in a debated match, like someone else in this division.

Grade: C-

The Boss - She won a debated match, and she won it pretty easily. Like Amaterasu, the final percentages were close, but The Boss was in the lead from wire to wire and Drake never made any serious push to come back. After the Cube's round 1 performance, she probably doesn't have any chance next round, but at least she got a win outside of the female bracket.

Grade: C

Star of the Division: Weighted Companion Cube
Turd of the Division: Magus
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Yeah, honestly from this point forth I don't think anyone will try to argue for Magus in close matches anymore.
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...Just repeat to yourself / It's just a show / I should really just relax...

Chaos Division

Sonic the Hedgehog - Couldn't even get 64% on a character whose game isn't even released in America yet? Yeah, that's pretty bad, but it's not quite as bad as some people say. We know that hype is one of the biggest forces in providing contest boosts (GAME FUEL, Twilight Princess, Brawl), and I'd imagine that the majority of the site at least knows something about Final Fantasy XIII. Heck, I almost voted for Lightning, and I actually like Sonic!

Grade: D

Lightning - Without even having her game released, Lightning already looks like she could be the third strongest Final Fantasy lead! Tidus/Lightning probably goes Tidus's way for now (I say this as a Tidus fanboy, so what do I know?), but once FFXIII comes out, forget about it. She's got a great upside, and at least we know in advance that she won't be a total flop like Balthier, so it'll be good to see her back next year!

Grade: B-

Cecil Harvey - Well, this was an unexpected performance. From getting tripled by Kirby and doubled by Wario to giving Knuckles the Echidna the fight of his life (Speaking of which, Knuckles vs. Wario: Who you got?). To me, this essentially confirms that Zack and Cecil LFF'd each other last year, especially as Zack himself has proven his strength repeatedly. It's hard to say how much Dissidia helped him or if it was more having a picture people recognize, but we won't know 'til next year, thanks to Sonic/Knuckles SFF next year. One of the most unexpectedly good performances of round 1 though.

Grade: B+

Knuckles the Echidna - It's almost as if Knuckles looked at Sonic and Shadow and said, "Ha, that's nothin'! Watch this!" For the record, my 2008 stats have Knuckles projected to double Cecil here (Yeah, LOL 4-WAYS and all that, but even those stats usually aren't off by THAT much). That's how ridiculously bad this performance looks. It's sad to see how far the mighty have fallen.

Grade: D-

Ganondorf - He did about what I expected from him against Mewtwo. He wasn't able to SFF him, but this is Ganondorf vs. Pokemon here, so nobody should've thought he would. He did enough to keep the match with Sonic interesting, but he didn't do well enough to make me say he's the favorite yet (though Sonic himself went a long way in that department).

Grade: C

Mewtwo - Everyone knew Mewtwo was out of his league against Ganondorf here, but he still managed to put up a respectable performance and give me an ace Oracle prediction! Well done.

Grade: C

Albert Wesker - Wesker joins Cecil in that group of unexpectedly good round 1 performances. Yeah, he was coming fresh off of RE5, the first time (from what I hear, never played an RE game) he was front and center in a game in the series, but that hadn't done squat for Ocelot and Wesker was pretty bad himself, struggling to beat a character whose game wasn't even out yet last year (Sound familiar...?). The match with Ken was great, one of those few matches where I was essentially glued to this site and eagerly waiting for that next update. I'll give him a high mark just for putting on an entertaining show.

Grade: B+

Ken Masters - Ken, my boy, you disappoint me. We spend all these years waiting to bring you back, we give you NRT support, and this is what you do? Nearly lose to Wesker? Granted, in retrospect, it doesn't look quite as bad as we've seen other RE5 characters do well for themselves, but Ken did nothing to establish himself as the certain #2 Street Fighter on this site. That one's still up for debate with Akuma, as far as I'm concerned.

Grade: C-
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Kirby - Man, you don't mess with Kirby's early vote. It is truly the thing of legends at this point. Nearly 65% at the freeze and over 61% at the end of the first hour? Of course, the fact that it's so good ends up making him look kinda bad as he bleeds percentage the rest of the match. I'm not sure if doing as good on Rikku as he did on Tidus is a good thing or a bad thing, but like Ganondorf, he did well enough to make a showdown with Sonic stay interesting (if Sonic gets there), though he didn't do enough to make himself the favorite.

Grade: C

Rikku - Man, Rikku gets wasted year in and year out in these things. The only time she's ever gotten past the first round was in the Female Bracket in 2006, and it's not for lack of strength. She's just had some unfortunate draws, and the fact that she has to split nominations with Tidus, Auron, and Yuna (and now Jecht) usually means she gets a low seed and a bad draw. She had no chance of beating Kirby, but she kept it respectable.

Grade: C

GlaDOS - She doubled Fawful in a match that most of us didn't really care about, and she's got a match with Kirby next round she has no chance to win (though we'll still have to put up with a stats topic full of Portal quotes all the same, yet again). But hey, at least she proved she's capable of putting him a big percentage.

Grade: B

Fawful - Bowser's Inside Story is awesome. You should play it.

Grade: F is for Fawful!

Vivi Orunitia - Didn't we already see this match in 2004, with almost the exact same percentages?

Grade: C

Donkey Kong - See above.

Grade: C

Altair - The man who ended my perfect bracket and did so mercilessly. He beat Liquid to a bloody pulp from start to finish and never seemed to slow down. Assassin's Creed's day vote is really something, one of the best we have now. After Vivi's meh performance and Altair's strong showing against a proven midcarder, he suddenly looks like the favorite next round.

Grade: A+

Liquid Snake - Liquid is like Kefka. You never know what you're going to get out of this guy. For that reason, I have a hard time taking a lot out of Altair's beatdown of him, but that's a story for another time. There's only so weak Liquid can be, though you wouldn't have guessed it by looking at this match! He rolled over and died about as easily as Magus did, if not more so. Pretty pathetic.

Grade: F

Star of the Division: Altair
Turd of the Division: Liquid Snake
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

Fawful

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Liquid Snake - Liquid is like Kefka. You never know what you're going to get out of this guy. For that reason, I have a hard time taking a lot out of Altair's beatdown of him, but that's a story for another time. There's only so weak Liquid can be, though you wouldn't have guessed it by looking at this match! He rolled over and died about as easily as Magus did, if not more so. Pretty pathetic.

Grade: F

*struggles to hold in his urge to laugh uncontrollably*
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Fawful - Bowser's Inside Story is awesome. You should play it.

Grade: F is for Fawful!

Thanks for the recommendation. Now then...

*attempts to hold in his urge to laugh*
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Match LXIII: (7) Yuri Lowell vs. (10) Tifa Lockheart

Information

Name: Yuri Lowell
Game/Series: Tales of Vesperia
Previous Contest: N/A
Performance: N/A

Name: Tifa Lockheart
Game/Series: Final Fantasy VII
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 2

Analysis

Welcome to the 700th contest match. It’s pretty crazy, but with this match we have reached the 700 mark. I was hoping that this contest would have only been a 63 match contest so the finals could have had the honour, but this doesn’t change anything. Almost eight years ago the very first contest match was posted and I expect not even CJayC would have expected the contests to have grown so much.

Back to the contest, spreading the nominations over multiple characters has taken its toll on Tifa. While looking at the seeds she may be the underdog I think everyone knows who should be the favourite. My problem with Tifa is her bracket placements since 2006, from not being in the bracket altogether to facing Sephiroth it seem that Tifa won’t get a break this year either facing Sephiroth for the second. At least she’ll make it to the fourth round unlike Vincent.

The stats topic seems to have been on an anti-Tales rant a few days back and it will probably show up here again. When the best that you can hope for is to be regular fodder you know that this match is not going to be pretty when you consider the strength of Tifa. From what I gather Vesperia would rank between Symphonia and Abyss and that Yuri isn’t from an ensemble cast meaning he won’t suffer as badly as the other Tales characters.

With how anti-blowout GameFAQs seems to be this year I don’t believe that Tifa will get the blowout of the contest. If Vincent was nowhere close with Guybrush I don’t see Tifa approaching that mark either. On the other hand Yuri isn’t exactly off the hook to be on the receiving end of a huge blowout either.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Tifa Lockheart > Yuri Lowell

charmander6000’s Prediction: Tifa wins, 76.36% - 23.64%

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Character Battle VIII - 49/60 - Today's Winners: Big Daddy and Ness

Less than one hour before the Yuri overperformance, so we all get on the Gordon > Tifa train, just to complete the WTFness of this contest. What goes around comes around, you big-breasted *****.
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

Oh, I just realized what KP hates Tifa so much

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2092

ouch
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

I hated her before that

She also beat Luigi, my #2, in the next round

I'd rather not discuss Tifa too much

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

She may go after Ness this year >_<
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

I'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS TIFA

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

I hated her before that

She also beat Luigi, my #2, in the next round

I'd rather not discuss Tifa too much

I see you have no plans on voting for Tifa. Good.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

I hate all these characters now, except the ones who say fewer than 3 words. And Frog. Burn!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

So what kind of % would Gordon need on Peach to even have a shot at making it Round 3? You-know-who got 66% on Peach back in '06.
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

From: red sox 777 | #329
I hate all these characters now, except the ones who say fewer than 3 words. And Frog. Burn!

So you're voting for Gordon Freeman then? Good man.
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #330
So what kind of % would Gordon need on Peach to even have a shot at making it Round 3? You-know-who got 66% on Peach back in '06.

Looks like you answered your own question.

Let's go Tifa, tee hee!
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"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."

Well, if the 'FF7 is losing a step' thing is true, then Tifa has deboosted and Gordon only needs to get 50.01% on Peach to be the favorite!

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Peach has deboosted too!
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Missingno's quest to avenge Crono - Round 2: Yoshi
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Well, Nintendo has deboosted since 2006, too, so...
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

From: red sox 777 | #329
I hate all these characters now, except the ones who say fewer than 3 words. And Frog. Burn!

Speaking of which, how many of these characters are 100% mute? Aside from obvious jokes like L-Block and Missingno (though WCC is borderline since it's treated like an actual character) of course. Link grunts a lot and Crono has a line of dialogue in one of the endings. Ness would count if not for Smash Bros.

I guess Vault Boy technically counts, even though he's only an icon. Though I think even he gets a speech bubble or two on billboards and the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. book and other stuff.
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Not Wylvane

I'm pretty sure Red says absolutely nothing in either game he's in.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

From: ILessThan3Tifa | #332
Looks like you answered your own question.

Let's go Tifa, tee hee!

...You really made an account named that? lol
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http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg
I Am Albion Hero!

And Ness has a single paragraph in EB anyway.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

From: Not_Wylvane | #336
Speaking of which, how many of these characters are 100% mute? Aside from obvious jokes like L-Block and Missingno (though WCC is borderline since it's treated like an actual character) of course. Link grunts a lot and Crono has a line of dialogue in one of the endings. Ness would count if not for Smash Bros.

I guess Vault Boy technically counts, even though he's only an icon. Though I think even he gets a speech bubble or two on billboards and the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. book and other stuff.

Gordon hasn't said a word since he's stepped into Black Mesa.
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

I still don't buy FF7 decreasing quite yet. Cloud and Sephiroth have obvious reasons to underperform, Cid was an unknown, Vincent still tripled a character who probably had a huge relative boost, and Aeris and Zack did alright.

It's possible, but I'd rather wait for more evidence first. Round 2 should answer a few questions.
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Not Wylvane

Characters who never say anything at all?

Gordon Freeman.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

From: KamikazePotato | #337
I'm pretty sure Red says absolutely nothing in either game he's in.

Well, he has dialogue in Brawl!

And I don't care if you think they're different characters! That's irrelevant!
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

Also, Missingno has a battle cry!

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

From: Not_Wylvane | #336
I guess Vault Boy technically counts, even though he's only an icon.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/images/fot_pipboy.jpg
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http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg
I Am Albion Hero!

Forgot about Red and Gordon.

Also forgot about Ness's thoughts being displayed on that wall, unless you're talking about some other point in the game.
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Not Wylvane

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #338
...You really made an account named that? lol

No, it's totally fake!
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Yeah, that. I'd say that counts for Ness. His inner self also speaks in Magicant.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

I still don't buy FF7 decreasing quite yet. Cloud and Sephiroth have obvious reasons to underperform, Cid was an unknown, Vincent still tripled a character who probably had a huge relative boost, and Aeris and Zack did alright.

It's possible, but I'd rather wait for more evidence first. Round 2 should answer a few questions.

Agreed. Round 2 might hold some answers.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

From: ILessThan3Tifa | #347
No, it's totally fake!

Look, you can't have a FF7 account and then have a FFX sig, its against ToS.

God damn, I wish people would read the rules sometimes...
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Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING