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You know...I was thinking about it, and the concept of "elite eight" or whatever isn't so far-fetched.

I know people are married to the idea of the Noble 9 being the be all end all of groups, and that there is a domino effect because at least one has beaten another in the group.

This doesn't necessarily have to be true. Technically, the only person that has lost to a none N9 character is Crono, and while Crono has beaten Mario, he beat Mario while he was still a member of the N9. So it's not like the others have lost to a non-N9 character, and therefore are eliminated from the group. The only faulty link in the group is Crono.

This is where you guys act elitist, talk smack, tell me to shut up, and blah blah. But the logic that because Crono lost everyone loses doesn't make sense. The rules are completely arbitrary and made up. The rest of the group doesn't have to suffer because of Crono's failure -- especially since none of them would lose to him, or any other character not in the group, in this contest.

I understand that the concept of the N9 is precious to everyone (I've been around since the first contest, too, but still), but say Sonic had lost this year -- it doesn't mean that they other characters have lost to someone who wasn't in the Noble 9, because when Crono lost to Sonic he was the 7th strongest of the N9 (and still a part of it at the time) and I think this should be taken into consideration.
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*acts elitist, talks smack, tells you to shut up, and blah blah*
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Why are you bringing that into these topics? Aren't there 700+ other topics saying the exact same thing outside of here?
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This is where you guys act elitist, talk smack, tell me to shut up, and blah blah. But the logic that because Crono lost everyone loses doesn't make sense.

1) Predicting and expecting to be jumped on for this doesn't make you right.
2) The Noble Nine was very much a group phenomenon. It wasn't just that each one of the NN-members were undefeated against non-NN'ers...it was that all of them were. Crono losing doesn't mean the rest of the group lost, it means the group lost.
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Because I think it's something that concerns stats and discussion relating to the contest? I also think that there are some open-minded and level-headed people in this topic (generally) that would have some interesting discussion regarding this. I find most of the discussion regarding this topic outside is pretty disorganized and less mature.
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I don't think Yoshi wins next round either, but I can see the argument with PIkachu beating L Block while Ryu not being able to last year. Yoshi seems like the type of character that will change the minds of voters who were going to vote for L Block, like Pikachu. They're both really popular Nintendo characters.

As for Big Daddy, yeah, he probably got affected by Gordon a big amount. I think he has a chance in that case. I probably didn't catch it because Balthier just caused me to stop and dismiss Big Daddy just because of that. I really have no respect for Balthier's strength in these contests.

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I read the first line of Curt's post and decided I didn't want to read it.

The Noble Nine is dead. I'm not getting into discussions about it, and like Soul said, you want to talk about it, there are hundreds of topics on the board to discuss it in.
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As a person who was there when it was created the Noble Nine is dead.
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I was there too, don't forget. Just because you were there when it was created gives you no more power to say when or when it doesn't die.

The reality is that they will always be the Noble 9. Winning or not.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
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Heck had L-Block not pull off the win I think a lot of people would have considered it gone in 2007.
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The reality is that they will always be the Noble 9. Winning or not.

True. The term will last for a while, but it will only be describing those nine characters. Nothing to do with their strengths or their records.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Since Missingno has not lost to any outside competition yet, we could probably just include him in the Terrific Ten.

It might be obvious that Missingno > Vincent by this point, heh.

The reality is that they will always be the Noble 9. Winning or not.

That's true, anyone who mentions it will know that we mean those nine characters and not anyone else. Some people are acting like Crono losing makes him a mid-card, but he's still one of the strongest characters in the bracket.
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You know...I was thinking about it, and the concept of "elite eight" or whatever isn't so far-fetched.

I know people are married to the idea of the Noble 9 being the be all end all of groups, and that there is a domino effect because at least one has beaten another in the group.

This doesn't necessarily have to be true. Technically, the only person that has lost to a none N9 character is Crono, and while Crono has beaten Mario, he beat Mario while he was still a member of the N9. So it's not like the others have lost to a non-N9 character, and therefore are eliminated from the group. The only faulty link in the group is Crono.

This is where you guys act elitist, talk smack, tell me to shut up, and blah blah. But the logic that because Crono lost everyone loses doesn't make sense. The rules are completely arbitrary and made up. The rest of the group doesn't have to suffer because of Crono's failure -- especially since none of them would lose to him, or any other character not in the group, in this contest.

I understand that the concept of the N9 is precious to everyone (I've been around since the first contest, too, but still), but say Sonic had lost this year -- it doesn't mean that they other characters have lost to someone who wasn't in the Noble 9, because when Crono lost to Sonic he was the 7th strongest of the N9 (and still a part of it at the time) and I think this should be taken into consideration.

This is way more civil than most of the other crap right now. I had to ban two people and lock about 5 wiki pages over this nonsense.

Anyway, yeah, the NN will always exist. They just no longer have their winning streak is all, and that's okay. It doesn't need another name, new members, or whatever.
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"One of the strongest characters in the bracket" should not go out and lose in the first round.

Since Missingno has not lost to any outside competition yet, we could probably just include him in the Terrific Ten.

Anyone from 2003 would shot that idea down, that's not how the noble nine was created.
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Since Missingno has not lost to any outside competition yet, we could probably just include him in the Terrific Ten.

Times like this where I wish you can slap someone through their computer screen.
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I wasn't aware Vincent, Missingno, Tifa and Bowser have made every contest since 2002.
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From: LinkMarioSamus | #216
"One of the strongest characters in the bracket" should not go out and lose in the first round.

If the seeding set up Link Vs Cloud in R1 would that make Cloud weak?
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One of the strongest characters in the bracket" should not go out and lose in the first round.

You mean like Aerith who could probably defeat more than half of the winners?
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From: UltimaterializerX | #219
I wasn't aware Vincent, Missingno, Tifa and Bowser have made every contest since 2002.

Or Tanner! He's only lost to NNers!
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Man I hate the fact that I'm getting all nostalgic and mopey about a group of characters in a popularity contest on a video game FAQ site losing their unbeaten record.

Hahah I'm so lame and I love it!
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Tanner for the Terrific Ten.
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Yoshi seems like the type of character that will change the minds of voters who were going to vote for L Block, like Pikachu. They're both really popular Nintendo characters.

Thing is, Missingno is another really popular Nintendo character, and from what we've seen it's more popular here than Yoshi.



Interesting comparison using Toad:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2870 --> Toad-with-Bowser got 28.9% on Mewtwo
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3691 --> post-NSMBW Toad got 34.86% on Missingno-with-Mudkip-and-Jigglypuff

If those Toads are constant, Missingno-with-Mudkip-and-jigglypuff gets 41.45% on Mewtwo. Now assume Toad isn't constant however you feel is reasonable, then remove the other two Pokemon. Missingno presumably smashes Mewtwo.

This is nothing it beating Crono doesn't already tell us, but it's a fun look.
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Hey guys, we've seen this match before and know how it ends. Remember when Mudkip led Luigi?
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Missingno would destroy Mudkip.
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Yes, and neither character is transitive.
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True. The term will last for a while, but it will only be describing those nine characters. Nothing to do with their strengths or their records.

Bingo. No need to start another group, or edit it, or even deny its existence. It's that group of nine characters, now known for nothing more than their prestigious history and former streak.
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Except for the part where Missingno is not Mudkip and Yoshi is not Luigi.
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I actually think Yoshi has a better chance of beating Missingno. than Sephiroth does. Based on the unusually high vote total, it seems obvious that there was a lot of outside influence--rallying on other parts of the internet. And why are they rallying for Missingno.? Because of people who take these contests far too seriously. This was bound to happen eventually.

So here's the thing: Crono? He's just sort of a guy that's there. He's a silent protagonist, which means he has little characterization, but he always does well in these contests, and at first, he was the one that baffled us all by performing far ahead of what we expected of him. But he's not really going to get anti-voted, except for those who just anti-vote the Noble Nine on principle.

Sephiroth? Uh, Final Fantasy VII is an anti-vote magnet. Sephiroth also has a greater aura of untouchability in these contests. He has only ever lost to Cloud or Link. Not only will Missingno. get every vote he had yesterday from joke power plus a large helping of anti-votes, but by round 3 there would probably be a bandwagon forming, just like L-Block in 2007. I'm guessing Missingno. would get 4 votes for every 3 Sephiroth gets.

Yoshi, however, is not untouchable, and it is inherently unnatural to hate Yoshi, because he's just so inoffensive and relaxed. Just take his appearances in the SSB series. Everyone else has this really exciting theme, and his is just so mellow--and then there's his first scene in the Subspace Emissary, which starts off with Link drawing the Master Sword, usually a sign that something big is about to happen...and there's Yoshi, fast asleep on a stump. There's no real reason to rally against Yoshi, and without the support of the trolls who think it's funny to shatter the dreams of the pretentious types, does Missingno. really have enough support to make it through on its own--especially when placed up against a fellow Nintendo character? I doubt it. Joke characters become stronger the stronger their opponents are.
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Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful, Tidus (2 rounds), Phoenix (2 rounds), Simon, Kratos Aurion, Crono, Soap MacTavish

I wonder why Geno is actually winning the day vote.
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Missingno beats Sephiroth, then loses to Gordon Freeman.

Book it.

And, frankly, I don't think we've really wanted to select and name an elite-group for the past few years. We've only kept the Noble Nine because it was done many years ago, but really we've known that multiple characters could compete with them in recent contests and none of us could provide a good argument about where to draw the new line that everybody would agree with -- especially while dealing with the issue about most of the NN's competitors having not been here since the beginning like the NN.

Let's not make another group. It'll just add to lots of useless discussion to categorize a few powerhouses we already know are power-houses, plus it'll take away from the royalty that was the Noble Nine.
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From: Big Bob | #233
Missingno beats Sephiroth, then loses to Gordon Freeman.

Book it.

****, came in here to say something like that.
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I actually think Yoshi has a better chance of beating Missingno.

Do you have ANY IDEA how bad you make me look by agreeing with me?
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Do you have ANY IDEA how bad you make me look by agreeing with me?

If it makes you feel any better, I pretty much said the exact same thing a few pages ago.
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Oh heaven forbid the great Ulti look bad XD
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From: XxSoulxX | #237
If it makes you feel any better, I pretty much said the exact same thing a few pages ago.

Who hasn't?
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You all look stupid for suggesting that missingno has a chance against Sephiroth btw.
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If it beats Yoshi then it has.Hell even that I really like Crono and Sephiroth will vote for it.Plus massive rally from random sites.
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Oh heaven forbid the great Ulti look bad XD

The idea is to make Tsunami stop posting, He's already banned on the wiki, maybe if everyone on B8 ignores him he'll get the hint.
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Who hasn't?

Me. Sephiroth/Missingno is the real match, not Yoshi/Missingno...and I feel good about Sephiroth > Missingno.
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Guys, how many characters do we need to have in an unbeaten group that includes Guybrush?
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Seph's gotta beat missingno, we got account bets riding on seph/snake.
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From: ZenOfThunder | #241
My incredibly casual gamer friend told me he knows who Guybrush Threepwood is.... because his match pic was the cover of the game that was on the XBOX Live Marketplace.

He's hip! He's trendy! He's now! GUYBRUSH!

Guyrbush for 2011

and don't forget to vote for him as president in 2012!
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The idea is to make Tsunami stop posting, He's already banned on the wiki, maybe if everyone on B8 ignores him he'll get the hint.

So he's the residential new troll on the block ey?

Eh, regardless, MissingNo will steam roll right past Yoshi just fine. Sephiroth though, is a whole other story. That will truly test the joke character strength IMO, a much more accurate picture than L-Block winning some four-ways.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #242
Oh heaven forbid the great Ulti look bad XD

The idea is to make Tsunami stop posting, He's already banned on the wiki, maybe if everyone on B8 ignores him he'll get the hint.

Can we add a few more guys to that list?
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