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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 835

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:18:44 PM | message detail
On a side note, Skies of Arcadia was 34th on VGChartz' top 100 list from last year (then again that list suggests Skies > CoD4 > Melee > HL2), and was 27th on Destructoid's top 50 of the decade list. Skies still has relevance!

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/15/2010 9:20:10 PM | message detail
People should give SoA a try. Yeah, it has the world's worst random encounters rate and it doesn't look all that great, and I never actually finished it, but it was fun damnit!

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/15/2010 9:20:42 PM | message detail
Yuri also has it bad since he's facing a FF character. Look at the Asia vote. I guarantee Yuri would be winning Asia if he was against Gordon or something but he's doomed against a FF7 character.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/15/2010 9:20:42 PM | message detail
Tifa might end up over 80%..
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:20:51 PM | message detail
XD wow Yuri is doing pretty bad right now.
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:20:54 PM | message detail
Zack is the only person truly immune to the FFVII board vote.

That's not entirely true. Zack got lucky to face a fellow FF character in round 1 in Yuna, so he wouldn't have suffered badly anyway (although Auron got the board vote handily against Aerith). His is probably the least bad, but he's still suffered from it.

In round 1 last year, he gained 2.33% from the board vote to the end of the Power Hour. That's right. He lost the board vote to Wario.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:21:26 PM | message detail
Zack didn't get a good board vote until he became a fad.

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:21:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, Tifa could very well end with over 80%. 81.04% even- that would be nice, for her to steal away blowout of the round from Mario at this late time.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/15/2010 9:22:24 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #457
Zack didn't get a good board vote until he became a fad.


Well then, we should all give ourselves a pat on the back. The Stats Topic was primarily responsible for that one.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:22:37 PM | message detail
Even Zack isn't completely immune to it. He lost ground on Yuna until around half an hour in I think, and then started gaining- meaning his first half hour was still worse than hers, but his first 5 mintues was better.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:22:41 PM | message detail
And my serious prediction had Yuri with 22%, and I didn't even think it was that bad considering The Boss was tripled by Tifa as well, and the ton of factors he has going against him.

but naturally I get to wake up to dozens of LOL FAILS posts, fun

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:22:41 PM | message detail
Tifa won't get the blowout of the year.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/15/2010 9:22:56 PM | message detail
81.04% is too much for Tifa. She'll definitely beat Vincent and perhaps Samus as well (78.69%) That means she gets the second biggest blowout.
Nomchan | Posted 2/15/2010 9:23:03 PM | message detail
Poor Yuri. He deserves better than this. :(
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:23:22 PM | message detail
Assuming Sephiroth survives Missingno, we'll get a direct comparison on Vincent/Tifa, and thus we'll get to see Guybrush > Yuri in the stats barring Tifa outdoing Vincent or Yuri having a monster morning vote!

Guybrush is a monster! A two-foot monster that you could easily pick up and drop kick halfway across a football field, but still a monster!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/15/2010 9:23:35 PM | message detail
According to the '06 and '08 stats, Tifa > Crono > Vincent.

We need more discussion on this one.
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:24:15 PM | message detail
Yuri very well could have a monsters morning vote. He's an Xbox character and, more importantly, Tifa is awful during the day.

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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:24:41 PM | message detail
The funny thing is that Zidane won the board vote in round 2 and Link lost it! Link gained nearly 2% from the board vote to the end of the Power Hour! Zack stayed about the same. He gained nearly 1% from the end of the board vote to the end of the Power Hour in round 3. He gained 2.16% from the board vote to the end of the Power Hour against Link, Mario, and MMX though.

And looking at how badly Mega Man rocked Cid with the board vote this round, I imagine Zack will probably get hit pretty hard, though not as hard. Mega Man's a board vote champ himself.
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creativename | Posted 2/15/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail
Why are people thinking Tifa will get 80%? That's a big rise and we're already 20 minutes in. Hard to rise that much, even with the FF7 Total Domination Zone upcoming.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:25:47 PM | message detail
Hmm, Destruction gave Valkyria Chronicles some respect? Awesome. Didn't think it existed outside of internet message boards and in used game shelves.

Oh, Tifa's pounding Yuri Lowell to the tune of a tripling. Who would have thought?

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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:26:05 PM | message detail
The 2006 stats are lawl because Tifa ends up as the #2 character overall, and the 2008 stats are unreliable. I'm not even sure what number I used to adjust Tifa there.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/15/2010 9:26:11 PM | message detail
Poor Yuri. He deserves better than this. :(


The only thing Yuri deserves is to never show his fodderific face in a contest again. In fact, nobody with the name "Yuri" (Or Yaoi) should be allowed in a contest setting. They all perform like udder trash
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/15/2010 9:26:49 PM | message detail
I'll be pretty damn surprised if Vinnie outdoes Tifa against Sephiroth. Tifa did waaaaay better against Seph in 4ways, and I'm guessing it'll translate over to this format as well.

But man, I hate even talking about potential match-ups in this division. I still think Missingno could easily throw a wrench into the whole contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:26:55 PM | message detail
Those with the name of 'Yuri' are forever cursed to be amazing characters that no one knows about.

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creativename | Posted 2/15/2010 9:27:07 PM | message detail
Oh and red sox, sorry about Crono! That match must've killed you :(

Someone explain those trends to me. It screams Missingno stuffing to me, but I wasn't around. Missingno mysteriously Kefka-style "barriering" during what should've been Crono's best times is odd though.

Too bad Crono's got the most ineffective cheaters around (unless he's facing a FF7 character). He's been outcheated by everybody from Mario to Missingno. Crono cheaters should take classes from Frog cheaters or something ^_^
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 2/15/2010 9:27:08 PM | message detail
Direct comparisons in SFF matches are worthless. I wouldn't be surprised if Tifa vastly outperforms Vincent there, even if she's weaker.

I've always said that Tifa has a good chance at being stronger than Vincent though. 2k8 she was stuck with Sephiroth, 2k7 she didn't get the nominations, 2k6 was the crazy female bracket. 2k5 was the only decent read and it was still messed up by Advent Children released in between her match with Sonic and Vincent's match with Crono. And she was still quite close in the X-stats.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:27:30 PM | message detail
guybrush could throw a wench in this whole contest
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:27:51 PM | message detail
In night or 24-hour matches, FFVII (or at least Cloud and Sephiroth) generally rise about 4% from the freeze to the end of the power hour, and another 4% from the end of the power hour to the end. I know Tifa isn't Cloud and Sephiroth and it's probably harder to gain percentage when you're already so high up, but she's been gaining at a pretty good rate so far (as good as Sephiroth's.......remember how Marth stalled his gains for half an hour).
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:28:07 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #475
Oh and red sox, sorry about Crono! That match must've killed you :(

Someone explain those trends to me. It screams Missingno stuffing to me, but I wasn't around. Missingno mysteriously Kefka-style "barriering" during what should've been Crono's best times is odd though.

Too bad Crono's got the most ineffective cheaters around (unless he's facing a FF7 character). He's been outcheated by everybody from Mario to Missingno. Crono cheaters should take classes from Frog cheaters or something ^_^


Bacon made a couple of topics about it and said there was twice as much stuffing attempted for Crono than Missingno, but I'm not sure I buy it. That last hour in particular was pretty fishy for Missingno.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/15/2010 9:28:39 PM | message detail
Tifa > Sonic aw yeah...wait NOOOOOOO!!!!!
ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:29:08 PM | message detail
Tifa did waaaaay better against Seph in 4ways

Well, you try doing well in a match with Link, Mario, and Sephiroth! Seriously, most characters are going to struggle to get 10% in that match.

Tifa probably will do better than Vincent though if only for the fact that Sephy and Vinny have similar appeal and Tifa's appeal is...different.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/15/2010 9:29:42 PM | message detail
I share your doubt, Leon. Crono was making what seemed to be a very steady (and thus more believably legit) comeback, and then Missingno turned it around and put the match away immediately.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:29:45 PM | message detail
I think Vincent will hold up better against Sephiroth than he did in 2007. Sephiroth always holds up well against Cloud 1v1 but gets creamed in four-ways with him.

When there's two other options to vote for, people would rather focus on one character to ensure they win over the two opponents. I do think Vincent will outperform Tifa on Sephiroth.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:30:08 PM | message detail
Uh, Sephiroth is going to utterly dismantle Vincent. They draw from the exact same everything. He'll SFF Tifa, but Vincent will be SFFFFd...or something.

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creativename | Posted 2/15/2010 9:31:28 PM | message detail
Bacon made a couple of topics about it and said there was twice as much stuffing attempted for Crono than Missingno, but I'm not sure I buy it. That last hour in particular was pretty fishy for Missingno.

This is pretty much what I was saying though - Crono's cheaters suck. They're not effective and their cheating is easily caught. That's their history.

It's pretty clear Missingno would have more cheaters - everyone knew before that match that if anyone was going to get stuffing, it was Missingno.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/15/2010 9:31:34 PM | message detail
If we thought the bishy sff on marth was bad, wait till we see the bishy/badass character sff seph will lay down on vincent
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:32:03 PM | message detail
Vincent isn't really bishie though, is he...?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:32:15 PM | message detail
Missingno certainly had a ton of ralliers. Cheaters, eh.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/15/2010 9:32:44 PM | message detail
Sephiroth SFFs so many different categories. Bishie, badass, RPG...

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:33:36 PM | message detail
I bet Sephiroth would SFF Ike!
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/15/2010 9:33:36 PM | message detail

From: ILessThan3Tifa | #487
Vincent isn't really bishie though, is he...?


He's one of the most popular video game characters in yaoi. He and seph are a popular coupling, actually.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/15/2010 9:33:45 PM | message detail
It screams Missingno stuffing to me, but I wasn't around. Missingno mysteriously Kefka-style "barriering" during what should've been Crono's best times is odd though.

I did an analysis earlier today on that by comparing the votals in each hour of Crono/Missingno and MMX/Price, and got a conservative estimate of around 2700 votes (rallied or stuffed, who knows) in Crono/Missingno. I'll repost it here.

Time | Crono/Missingno | Price/MMX | Ratio | Missingno's percentage
1:00 | 12196 | 11059 | 1.1028 | 51.15%
2:00 | 10565 | 9619 | 1.0983 | 51.43%
3:00 | 9380 | 8546 | 1.0976 | 49.94%
4:00 | 8690 | 7935 | 1.0951 | 50.10%
5:00 | 7813 | 7490 | 1.0431 | 49.20%
6:00 | 7421 | 6662 | 1.1139 | 49.51%
7:00 | 6955 | 6083 | 1.1434 | 51.42%
8:00 | 6044 | 5336 | 1.1327 | 48.61%
9:00 | 5503 | 5086 | 1.0920 | 48.12%
10:00 | 5742 | 4903 | 1.1711 | 49.55%
11:00 | 5702 | 4432 | 1.2866 | 51.07%
12:00 | 5070 | 3917 | 1.2944 | 52.41%

Overall ratio = 91081/81068 = 1.1235

Missingno did far better in the hours in which the ratio was high. If we take 1.09 as a natural baseline (there was one hour below it at 1.04, and the rallying probably never completely stopped, so 1.09 may be too high, but it works as a conservative guess), we received about 2700 extra votes yesterday externally from rallying. Using that 1.04 hour as the baseline (that is, presuming the rallies stopped that hour) gives us a higher estimate of around 6000 votes.

The bulk of it was in the last 2 hours though- about 1700 from those 2 hours alone. Here's a graph with the projected rallied votes per hour using 1.09 as a baseline:

1:00 | 142
2:00 | 80
3:00 | 65
4:00 | 41
5:00 | -351
6:00 | 160
7:00 | 325
8:00 | 228
9:00 | 11
10:00 | 398
11:00 | 871
12:00 | 801
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:33:49 PM | message detail
Sephiroth's appeal is truly widespread.
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creativename | Posted 2/15/2010 9:34:00 PM | message detail
Well, you try doing well in a match with Link, Mario, and Sephiroth! Seriously, most characters are going to struggle to get 10% in that match.

I agree. That was nightmare match for Vincent, he was a complete after-thought.

He'll get SFFed hard by Sephiroth, but should do much better than in that match, which was his version of hell.

My guess is that Vincent gets SFFed harder than Tifa due to similarity, but, I wouldn't be entirely confident about it. Who knows with SFF matches like this.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:34:10 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #491
He's one of the most popular video game characters in yaoi. He and seph are a popular coupling, actually.


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Hochimihnister | Posted 2/15/2010 9:34:54 PM | message detail
Any jRPG badass is Bishie. No exceptions


And the Jenova Division is terrible. It's hard to make it worse, to be quite honest. Vincent and Tifa are wasted. If you want to waste them, throw them away on Mario or something. Christ.
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:35:40 PM | message detail
I still think Vincent will outdo Tifa against Sephy, for the record.

Vincent will be more Zero than Ganondorf.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/15/2010 9:36:11 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #496
Any jRPG badass is Bishie. No exceptions


And the Jenova Division is terrible. It's hard to make it worse, to be quite honest. Vincent and Tifa are wasted. If you want to waste them, throw them away on Mario or something. Christ.


Or Sonic!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/15/2010 9:36:36 PM | message detail
And the Jenova Division is terrible. It's hard to make it worse, to be quite honest. Vincent and Tifa are wasted. If you want to waste them, throw them away on Mario or something. Christ.

I agree wholeheartedly. I can't think of ANY division in all of contest history that manages to be even more awful than this.
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 2/15/2010 9:36:36 PM | message detail
Ratchet & Clank > Zelda
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