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From: Japago | #396
Yeah, and it probably has no bearing on the next round. Big Daddy would need a really big boost from 08 to beat Ness. In 07, Ness got 48% on Alucard and Liquid Snake, while Big Daddy lost to Balthier Bunansa in 08.

Really big boost...? Ness ain't that strong!
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

I feel lame bringing it up, but what did you guys think of the video? I was expecting to get a couple more comments. >_>

I liked it.

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From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch

And man, what a boring match this has been. Big Daddy's been in the 61% range the entire time.
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Not even 22% for Misingno...Lowest percentage so far.
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

Using LordOfDabus formula, where do you think the Crono/Missigno match is going to end up on the list of most popular matches.

also, has that ranking been updated for the 2008 and 2009 contest?

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Most_Popular_Matches
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Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.

Someone needs to update the wire match and add Crono.Now since this is a 12 hour match how can you add it as a vote total?I mean sure it had the most votes out of all matches but still...
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

Aw yeah. I snowflaked the **** out of Crono so hard.

Also, I love this match and Ulti should go play BioShock.
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Do et!

Man, after the epic awesomeness that was Crono/Missingno, everything else seems so...lackluster. Especially this match, LOL Soap. Why the hell did I take Ness > Big Daddy >_>
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

nigirl's one happy girl after that big daddy performance.
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Shakes Fist!

She feasts on the tears after the match, of course she's happy
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

K. I have now read through the last two and a half stats topics, both Bacon topics (joke and no stuffin') and consider myself up to date but I really don't want to see what the board looks like.

On the other hand, Big Daddy is EXACTLY where my fangirl optimism, absolute peak possibility oracle put him so I am over the moon with that, naturally. Which means I'm about to go ahead of Voltch in the oracle despite him having predicted two matches more than me.

Also in that group are Leonhart, BT and Lopen.
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Also: OM NOM NOM TEARS

curses, you ahead of me in the oracle, well, well, well, this is where tag-teams come into play.
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Shakes Fist!

From: nintendogirl1 | #411
both Bacon topics (joke and no stuffin')

Wait, where's this joke topic? I can't find it.
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The Gamer In Me
My Signature's broken, just like your front door.

type technical in the search bar.
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Shakes Fist!

Bioshock is coming soon. Just about done with Nemesis (I think), then it's Code Veronica so I can give Raven 2 his games back.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ; Rest in peace, Mitch Stuekerjuergen :(

From: voltch | #412
curses, you ahead of me in the oracle, well, well, well, this is where tag-teams come into play.

Pah. Tag teams are the crutch of the weak! Also, Team SWORDZMANZ will be ahead of Lucky Star after this match as well.
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Sux2beVoltch

So, is anyone willing to reconsider Red/MMX now that we've seen Charizard, Pikachu, and Missingno all impress greatly and Soap has crashed and burned? If you set Soap = Price, MMX only gets like 54% on Big Daddy......
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

No, we'll still be like 12 points down. but we'll be ahead come the end of the tournament!
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I swear it!

From: UltimaterializerX | #415
Bioshock is coming soon.

This is what I've been waiting to hear. You won't regret it.
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<3

From: red sox 777 | #360
64%, and yeah, still much better than 2007 R1.

On the subject of legitimacy: supposing Crono is Missingno's base-line, pre-bandwagon strength, would it really be so illegitimate for him to win the contest? If Crono had gone on to beat Sephiroth from some miracle comination of the night vote, sprite round, anti-votes, and CTDS, and gone on to build up a massive bandwagon culminating in victory, would that have been illegitimate? If not, why would Missingno winning the contest be so bad?

BUT HE'S A GLITCH! JOKE CHARACTERS RUIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE CONTEST ARRRRRRRRRRRGH.

I honestly don't see how a joke winning every year would be that much different than Link winning every year. It was a great shock in 2007, and it just gives some people reason to root for someone different to win. Besides, I don't see how rooting for L-Block is really that much different than, say, rooting for Snake to beat Link in 2008.

I do find it hilarious that there is a joke whose baseline strength is a near-elite. I mean, holy ****.

From: voltch | #409
nigirl's one happy girl after that big daddy performance.

That sounds so wrong.

Or so, so right.

Favorites? My favorite had an embarrassing loss (at the time) to Squall, yet bounced back and pulled off great wins against Zero, Kirby, Ganondorf, and Bowser while also impressing against the likes of Tifa and Sonic. His path is set in stone this contest and he'll probably look bad against Link, but one day he's going to pull a Pikachu and perform a really impressive run.

My second favorite has already won a contest and beat Cloud, not to mention he's like 3-2 against Crono.

Dunno how I'd rank the rest of my top 5, but one beat Marcus with her fabulous breasts while getting SFFed by Auron, one got last place in Sandbag/Magus before pulling a tripling this contest, and I can't think of a fifth character I'd put in my Top 5 right now.
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Not Wylvane

So...Luigi, Mario, Rydia, Shepard, eeks.

My top 9 are the exact same as the Noble Nine except for MMX ahead of MM. I was thinking about being a rat and throwing Vincent or Master Chief in there, but I decided not to.

BUT HE'S A GLITCH! JOKE CHARACTERS RUIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE CONTEST ARRRRRRRRRRRGH.

I honestly don't see how a joke winning every year would be that much different than Link winning every year. It was a great shock in 2007, and it just gives some people reason to root for someone different to win. Besides, I don't see how rooting for L-Block is really that much different than, say, rooting for Snake to beat Link in 2008.

To me, the problem with joke characters was always that they were intransitive and nonlinear, not that they were jokes. I don't like a character who lost to Kirby to beat Link- but if he's always that strong, that's fine- it would just mean a majority of the site find him to be a better character than Link.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

From: red sox 777 | #422
To me, the problem with joke characters was always that they were intransitive and nonlinear, not that they were jokes. I don't like a character who lost to Kirby to beat Link- but if he's always that strong, that's fine- it would just mean a majority of the site find him to be a better character than Link.

That's my problem with them. Intransitivity. If MissingNo. puts up big numbers on Yoshi and then gets 60/40'd by Seph, no-one has any right to complain. How many times have people in this topic said how much they don't want fodder, they want to find new strong characters? If that's what MissingNo is, people should embrace it and look forward to Vincent/Crono/Squall/Auron/MissingNo debates. Because the only difference will be what it looks like.

Obviously we don't know this, it may still steamroll Sephiroth and prove it is intransitive.
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That would suck.

I really ought to bear hug Ngirl and crush her oracle in process.
anyway oracles used to chicks on drugs.
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Shakes Fist!

From: red sox 777 | #422
BUT HE'S A GLITCH! JOKE CHARACTERS RUIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE CONTEST ARRRRRRRRRRRGH.

I honestly don't see how a joke winning every year would be that much different than Link winning every year. It was a great shock in 2007, and it just gives some people reason to root for someone different to win. Besides, I don't see how rooting for L-Block is really that much different than, say, rooting for Snake to beat Link in 2008.

To me, the problem with joke characters was always that they were intransitive and nonlinear, not that they were jokes. I don't like a character who lost to Kirby to beat Link- but if he's always that strong, that's fine- it would just mean a majority of the site find him to be a better character than Link.

That makes sense. It makes the contest harder to predict, but in a way where you'd pretty much have to guess how strong a character would be from match to match based on nothing. Luckily, this turned out not to be a problem in 2008, and I don't honestly think this will be a problem here either. I think Sephiroth's going to beat Missingno by a decent margin. Of course, now that we know what L-Block was capable of, it's easier to predict if a joke character can go on a rampage, thus people with legit brackets having Missingno winning it all.

I don't think joke characters are going to be hard to predict now after we've seen 2007, especially older ones who likely won't get bandwagoned as much as the new laugh of the week. There will be an air of doubt for certain matches, especially for new jokes, but that's true for many characters anyway, and those matches are fun to predict.

I don't see how Missingno is that different than, say, Lightning next year other than the potential for rallying, a factor that's easy to account for now that we've had the 2007 contest. I mean, almost nobody expected Missingno to be the second-strongest newcomer ever, and it would've been just as shocking if this was, say, post-FF13 Lightning beating Crono.
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Not Wylvane

I think Link's constant victories had itself become a joke to many, anyways. Which is why he and others were eventually removed from the bracket.

Someone has to step up to the plate to challenge the contest beasts - and I'm quite looking forward to clinkeroth actually having a challenge this contest, one on one.


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Signature

ya know BGE III, if freakin Farmville enters, well bull.
we are doomed, that is all.
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Shakes Fist!

Farmville would bomb.
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Not Wylvane

Note to self: Flavor of the year FPS character will never do well.
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who needs a dick when you're good at smash brothers - stingers
Now this is entertainment!

you doubt farmfear?
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Shakes Fist!

Farmville could win the entire contest if it wanted to.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 49/60 - Today's Winners: Big Daddy and Ness

Farmville would only win if Zynga posted a message whenever people got onto the game about voting for it in the contest. If that happened, Farmville would destroy every game in the contest.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

Match LXII: (6) Ness vs. (11) Geno

Information

Name: Ness
Game/Series: Earthbound
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 1

Name: Geno
Game/Series: Super Mario RPG
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 1

Analysis

Two characters that don’t have a good reading on them should open some debates, but when the upper bound of one character is barely above the lower bound of the other it is kind of hard to hype this match without stretching the arguments. The possibility for SFF is still possible if you really think about it meaning we still won’t get a true reading on a character.

Ness may not be the strongest character, but when something smash related appears he goes from bad to worse. Even Mewtwo, considered to be one of the worst characters in Melee was able to SFF him. Geno while having Nintendo ties isn’t from Smash and has never looked good in any of his contests. Ness may finally be able to get his third win of his contest career, much to the joy of Earthbound fans.

The last fair match Geno was in was against Squall back in 2005, though his performance there did help us predict Squall/Akuma rather well. Some people think Geno is affected by SFF because Square and Nintendo created Super Mario RPG. Personally I think the overlap is minimal at best, especially when we are comparing Old and New Square though considering it didn’t look like Geno was SFF by Bowser in the previous contest maybe there is some truth. Or maybe Geno holds well even against Bowser.

This match should be a simple win for Ness though he needs to look as good as possible if he wants to reach the third round. Geno may be fodder, but Ness is around the fodder line so I don’t really see a huge win unless SFF comes into play.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Ness > Geno

charmander6000’s Prediction: Ness wins, 58.84% - 41.16%

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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 49/60 - Today's Winners: Big Daddy and Ness

That's my problem with them. Intransitivity. If MissingNo. puts up big numbers on Yoshi and then gets 60/40'd by Seph, no-one has any right to complain. How many times have people in this topic said how much they don't want fodder, they want to find new strong characters? If that's what MissingNo is, people should embrace it and look forward to Vincent/Crono/Squall/Auron/MissingNo debates. Because the only difference will be what it looks like.

Obviously we don't know this, it may still steamroll Sephiroth and prove it is intransitive.

I agree with this, however, I also think that if Missingno beats Sephiroth it (mostly) shouldn't be attributed to a bandwagon. With it being a night match, FF7 seeming to lose a step and being anti-voted, and Missingno having that Pokemon early vote...it could've happened in Round 1.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Obviously we don't know this, it may still steamroll Sephiroth and prove it is intransitive.

Except we do know this. Missingno has literally no chance of even being close to Sephiroth and you're a fool if you think otherwise!

Here's a comparison of Crono/Missingno and Price/MMX (a day match and the #2 highest scoring match of the contest), side by side.

Time | Crono/Missingno | Price/MMX | Ratio | Missingno's percentage
1:00 | 12196 | 11059 | 1.1028 | 51.15%
2:00 | 10565 | 9619 | 1.0983 | 51.43%
3:00 | 9380 | 8546 | 1.0976 | 49.94%
4:00 | 8690 | 7935 | 1.0951 | 50.10%
5:00 | 7813 | 7490 | 1.0431 | 49.20%
6:00 | 7421 | 6662 | 1.1139 | 49.51%
7:00 | 6955 | 6083 | 1.1434 | 51.42%
8:00 | 6044 | 5336 | 1.1327 | 48.61%
9:00 | 5503 | 5086 | 1.0920 | 48.12%
10:00 | 5742 | 4903 | 1.1711 | 49.55%
11:00 | 5702 | 4432 | 1.2866 | 51.07%
12:00 | 5070 | 3917 | 1.2944 | 52.41%

Overall ratio = 91081/81068 = 1.1235

Missingno did far better in the hours in which the ratio was high. If we take 1.09 as a natural baseline (there was one hour below it at 1.04, and the rallying probably never completely stopped, so 1.09 may be too high, but it works as a conservative guess), we received about 2700 extra votes yesterday externally from rallying.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

I'm also fine if Missingno is just that strong for the reasons already stated, but if he does defeat Sephiroth that does cause a few problems.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 49/60 - Today's Winners: Big Daddy and Ness

I like bandwagons, they make the contests much more exciting and they aren't fundamentally destructive of legitimacy. With a bandwagon, strength still matters, a lot, on both ends- for example Starcraft ran into SSBM, a game that was just too strong for it to overcome. It's continuous and guaranteed nontransitivity (like the static 28% we theorized for L-Block) that ruins things. I think this contest has shown that jokes are mostly about bandwagoning and not very much, if at all, about a static base.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

But it's kinda odd, how since we can't beat the main crew, we gotta resort to odd methods like glitches and inanimate objects to win.
If Snake beat Link through a bandwagon or Ryu decided to hadouken Sonic, i'd be more satisfied.
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Shakes Fist!

LOL soap
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http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg

So around an average of 225 rallied votes an hour.

I can see it. I doubt rallies would get huge amounts of votes, but 2700 in twelve hours sounds feasible enough.
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Not Wylvane

So far this contest has done pretty well towards making jokes legitimate. WCC puts up big numbers, L-Block puts up average numbers, Missingno...yeah. I'd hold off on calling them non-transitive.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Legitimate jokes??? Oh please.

The bulk of it was in the last 2 hours though- about 1700 from those 2 hours alone. Here's a graph with the projected rallied votes per hour using 1.09 as a baseline:

1:00 | 142
2:00 | 80
3:00 | 65
4:00 | 41
5:00 | -351
6:00 | 160
7:00 | 325
8:00 | 228
9:00 | 11
10:00 | 398
11:00 | 871
12:00 | 801
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

And if anyone is wondering how an influx of 1700 votes above trend in the last 2 hours didn't result in Crono getting utterly destroyed (worse than he was), the possible reasons are:

1. Natural trends favored Crono. He was already pulling in 52% in the 8-9 hour, so for CT vs. Nintendo you'd expect him to be pulling 54-55% in the last hour normally, or a gain of 300-400 votes.

2. Crono was getting some rallied votes too.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

So...

Who would you rather see come back next contest, Missingno or Guybrush Threepwood? Choose one, "Neither" is not an option.
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Not Wylvane

Definetely Mr. Missing Number.

However, I have not played, owned, or watched anybody playing through a Pokemon game ever, and that isn't going to be rectified anytime soon. Not that I hate the series, it's just that I don't game on handhelds that much.

Guybrush, every year he'll get a chance and one day he'll prevail.
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Shakes Fist!

I can see it. I doubt rallies would get huge amounts of votes, but 2700 in twelve hours sounds feasible enough.

It's not feasible when there's no evidence online of large scale rallying. I checked 4chan at the time. There was one topic, and it wasn't even during the height of the rallying. There was nothing there, and they are the only non-game specific ones capable of pulling off something of that magnitude. Missingno cheated just like Crono, Mario, Starcraft, Kefka, Frog, and Crono did in the past. They couldn't catch them then, and they couldn't catch them now. There's no need to take away their victories because of something we can't prove, but there's no need to remain naive either.
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"..."---Wander
Yesmar

The next match immediately afterward had like 25% more votes than usual. Are you implying that the 'cheaters' stuck around to cheat in a completely different match, or maybe it's more logical to just assume that the extra votes came from... you know... more people being at the site at the time?
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A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.