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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 830

LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:26:34 PM | message detail
Ratchet & Clank > Jak & Daxter

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~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/13/2010 9:32:00 PM | message detail
Truth.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:44 PM | message detail
Team Joke:

CATS
Bidoof
Mudkip
Sandbag
Weighted Companion Cube
L-Block
Missingno

The Defeated:

Nathan Hale
Laharl
The Dog
Meta-Knight
Agent J
Miles Edgeworth
Tingle
Pit
Tom Nook
Lloyd Irving
Commander Shepard
Magus
Tails
Tidus
Ryu
Donkey Kong
Kirby
Amaterasu
Zelda
Vergil
Nero
Riku
Kratos
Alucard
Zero
Megaman
Squall Leonhart
Sonic
Solid Snake
Mewtwo
Dante
Master Chief
Cloud Strife
Link

The heroes who vanquished the foul tetris block of evil:

Crono
Pikachu

Time for Crono to vanquish another joke!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:43:36 PM | message detail
So Cloud and Snake don't count for having eliminated the Cube last year...?

Or Link and Vincent for eliminating Bidoof...?

Or Auron and Sonic for eliminating Sandbag (LOL Magus)...?

Or lots of characters for eliminating CATS (LOL Nathan Drake)...?
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:44:48 PM | message detail
None of them eliminated L-Block, who's the main thing as he's the one who beat Link and won the contest.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:45:46 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #005
None of them eliminated L-Block, who's the main thing as he's the one who beat Link and won the contest.


Then how come the ones they beat get put under "The defeated?"

Be consistent and unbiased!
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:50:20 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, you're right, CATS did defeat Nathan Drake. I thought CATS had never beaten anyone so I didn't bother checking for him! Add Drake to "the defeated" then.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:50:53 PM | message detail
did ratchet ever run over pedestrians with a car

i dont think so
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:52:00 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #008
did ratchet ever run over pedestrians with a car

i dont think so


Why run them over with a car when you can turn them into a sheep or a duck?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:55:10 PM | message detail
Mario > Your Favorite Character

Unless your favorite character is Luigi, in which case Luigi > Mario.

Or if your favorite character is Mario, in which case Mario = Mario.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:55:58 PM | message detail
Luigi > Squall > Uigi
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Character Battle VIII - 48/58 - Today's Winners: Yoshi and Crono
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:56:41 PM | message detail
LOL people who complained about Uigi
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MetricTrout | Posted 2/13/2010 9:57:23 PM | message detail
Mudkip is not a "joke character", he get most of his strength from Pokemon, not 4chan. Half of Mudkip voters never even heard of the meme.

Actually, I despise the term "joke character". I will vote for L-Block every time not because it is funny or anything, but because I genuinely like L-Block and Tetris.
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:57:25 PM | message detail
So when Crono doubles Yoshi, can we start discussing Crono > Sephiroth?
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:57:35 PM | message detail
Luigi would triple Squall now thanks to Dissidia boost!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:57:39 PM | message detail
Old Ratchet & Clank commercials the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2dM_LLKJg
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:58:07 PM | message detail
That day was crazy, the only matches that come close are Mario/Crono and maybe Cloud/Link.
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Character Battle VIII - 48/58 - Today's Winners: Yoshi and Crono
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:58:32 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #014
So when Crono doubles Yoshi, can we start discussing Crono > Sephiroth?


If Crono doubles Yoshi, I think we'd be talking more about Crono > Link!
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:59:11 PM | message detail
Well I don't respect Yoshi's strength that much, but that would be even better!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 10:05:15 PM | message detail
Mario was the best written character in the 2003 Fanfiction Project for what it's worth.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/13/2010 10:06:50 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #014
So when Crono doubles Yoshi, can we start discussing Crono > Sephiroth?


I would prefer you not waste my time talking about impossibilities thanks
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/13/2010 10:07:31 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Crono confirmed!!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 10:14:03 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #021
I would prefer you not waste my time talking about impossibilities thanks


Yeah, you waste enough time with your own impossibilities like Heavy > Roxas!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 10:30:20 PM | message detail
So...assuming the Guru chalk holds up for the rest of this round, who's the weakest character to make round 2? Laharl? Ratchet? Isaac?

Who was the strongest character to lose in round 1? Mewtwo? Rikku? Cid? Yuna? Tidus? Aerith?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/13/2010 10:32:19 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #024

Who was the strongest character to lose in round 1? Mewtwo? Rikku? Cid? Yuna? Tidus? Aerith?


Crono
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 10:33:16 PM | message detail
So...assuming the Guru chalk holds up for the rest of this round, who's the weakest character to make round 2? Laharl? Ratchet? Isaac?

Who was the strongest character to lose in round 1? Mewtwo? Rikku? Cid? Yuna? Tidus? Aerith?


I'd say:

Weakest character to advance: Laharl
Strongest character eliminated in round 1: Aerith
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 10:33:38 PM | message detail
I said assuming the Guru chalk holds up!
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Japago | Posted 2/13/2010 10:38:13 PM | message detail
Weakest to advance: Ratchet. Put Sackboy in the mix though.

Strongest to lose: Aerith


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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 10:39:09 PM | message detail
Eh, I think Sackboy would beat Ratchet, Isaac, or Laharl without much difficulty.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/13/2010 10:48:53 PM | message detail
Weakest: Ratchet
Strongest: Revan! Watch out, Squall!

...

Aerith, probably. The FFX girls and Mewtwo are pretty close, I think.
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Haguile | Posted 2/13/2010 10:49:26 PM | message detail
Weakest character to advance: Laharl
Strongest character eliminated in round 1: Aerith

And...THE HELL? Yoshi is definitely impressing. Go yoshi, go!
HaRRicH | Posted 2/13/2010 11:03:11 PM | message detail
ToadYoshi | Posted 2/14/2010 12:21:45 AM | message detail
Toad has much more of a reason than Yoshi to boost from NSMB Wii. Trust me, I am an expert regarding this matter.


I approve.


who's the weakest character to make round 2? Laharl? Ratchet? Isaac?
Who was the strongest character to lose in round 1? Mewtwo? Rikku? Cid? Yuna? Tidus? Aerith?


I'll guess Isaac > Laharl > Ratchet and Aeris > Mewtwo > Yuna > Cid > Rikku > Tidus...with Missingno somewhere in there, too. Let's put it with Mewtwo since he impress in the vote-in, all the Pokemon have impressed, and Red won his match.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/13/2010 11:04:35 PM | message detail
Not bad, Yoshi. Not bad.

*Blares Yoshi Tatsu's theme*
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HeroicYoshi | Posted 2/13/2010 11:05:40 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Missingno
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/13/2010 11:14:24 PM | message detail
Wait Rikku > Tidus??? Who the hell would vote for Rikku over Tidus???

On a side note, according to both the '06 and '08 stats, Tifa > Crono > Vincent. They're all in the same division, but we will certainly not be able to get comparison. Discuss.

Yoshi is dominating here, but...oh let's change subject: WHY DID ALL THE WOMEN ASIDE FROM SAMUS GET SUCH LOW SEEDS??? GEE, SOMEBODY HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE OPPOSITE SEX, OBVIOUSLY??? I MEAN ASIDE FROM SAMUS ALL WOMEN ARE IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SEEDING FIELD. JILL VALENTINE IS THE 2ND HIGHEST SEEDED WOMAN FOR CHRISSAKES. NOT ZELDA OR A FINAL FANTASY LADY, BUT JILL VALENTINE!!! COME ON!

OH, AND ON A SIDE NOTE, NOTICE THAT WESKER IS A 4 SEED WHILE CHRIS HAS AN 8 AND JILL HAS A 9. WHAT THE ZOMBIE???
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/13/2010 11:15:05 PM | message detail
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/13/2010 11:40:12 PM | message detail
People talking up Yoshi over Crono? I know Crono's path is a little boring, but really now - the dino couldn't put up a fight against SQUALL. The biggest obstacle to the NN surviving Crono is Missingno. The redhead gets through tomorrow, and he's golden.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 11:44:32 PM | message detail
i find it funny how people think crono is more likely to lose to a glitch than yoshi
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/14/2010 12:05:50 AM | message detail
i find it funnier that people aren't even giving Yoshi a chance against Crono in the day. If Ryu who is known as being Mr.consistent can have a bad year against Bowser in 2005, i don't see how Yoshi can't have a bad year or maybe he is just not as strong in a 4 ways format.

Yoshi's performance today is quite impressive, not saying that he is the favorite, but beating Crono in the day isn't an impossible thing.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:17:34 AM | message detail
From: Iamthekuzalol | #040
Yoshi's performance today is quite impressive, not saying that he is the favorite, but beating Crono in the day isn't an impossible thing.

Just because Crono is weak in the Day relative to his overall strenght doesn't mean he won't get more votes than all but the top competitors. In 2006, Bowser didn't win a single update in 24 hours. Not in Europe, not in the day, just didn't happen.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/1/12/Graph2545.png

This is not worth debating.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/14/2010 12:21:17 AM | message detail
Crono (2007c) VS Yoshi (2007c)

Crono has a strength of 34.61.
Yoshi has a strength of 32.27.

Crono wins with 53.38% of the vote!
A win of 9,857 with 145,790 total votes cast.


Nah, I'd say its well worth debating.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:25:13 AM | message detail
Yoshi overperformed against Solid Snake in a sprite round, and those stats would make Squall/Yoshi a close match.

There is no debate whatsoever. Yoshi's losing in Round 2 regardless of his opponent, Crono's too strong, and MissingNo would be too if he takes out Crono in the first place.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:26:12 AM | message detail
Oh wait, wrong stats. Thought you said 2006. My mistake. >_>
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/14/2010 12:27:10 AM | message detail
Since I probably won't be here for the start of the next match, I would just like to laugh at Crono preemptively.

Haha look at Crono struggling with Missingno
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 2/14/2010 12:28:12 AM | message detail
Using 2k7 Crono stats is worthy of a lol. Crono's better than that, if just by a % or so.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/14/2010 12:29:24 AM | message detail
For all we know Crono could have dropped off the face of the Earth and the 4ways have been hiding it!
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:29:25 AM | message detail
Squall >> Yoshi. Crono would need to fall a long way to lose to him. Jak is irrelevant bad fodder.

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paulg235 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:30:26 AM | message detail
Missingno's best time will be the first 5 minutes of the match. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the only time he is (baring) leading against Crono.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/14/2010 12:35:42 AM | message detail
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #042
Crono (2007c) VS Yoshi (2007c)

Yeah! Go stats derived from L-Block > Link. They'll be accurate.
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