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Also we do have a read on Simon Belmont. He got owned by Sam Fisher who got owned by Donkey Kong who got owned by VIvi who got owned my Zelda.
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Krahen Prophet did a fatality.

Crono was in the poll.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

He lost to pre-MGS4 Liquid and did poorly against Captain Falcon despite Nintendo SFF. I'd take nearly beating Zero over that.

Liquid Snake is like Kefka, so using him as an example is a bad, bad idea.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Considering Liquid Snake supposedly fluxuates between low-midcarder to Zelda levels -- there's no way you can use Alucard losing to him as a bad thing (not really, anyway) especially when it was by like 3 votes.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

He fluctuated to Zelda levels because of a huge new release in his series. Before then, he's always shown he's a lower midcarder. Losing to him means you're not that strong.
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No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills.

Just because he had a ton of strange matches, there's no reason to believe he actually fluctuates in strength like normal characters don't. It just means we don't understand what happened all that well.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Just because he had a ton of strange matches, there's no reason to believe he actually fluctuates in strength like normal characters don't. It just means we don't understand what happened all that well.

No, we do not what happened. He fluked a great performance on Luigi in round 1 then was the benefactor of a LFF match in round 2. Liquid Snake is a low midcarder. Always has been, always will be.

And he would still crush Ezio this contest.
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Good Times,
Great Memories

Man, stop talking about Zelda/Ezio, guys! This isn't a match that warrants discussion in ONE topic, much less several!
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

Fact/Fiction: Yoshi/Jak will be a closer match than Crono/Missingno

C'mon! We need to have SOME Yoshi/Jak discussion around here!
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"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."

Fiction.

Zero was able to double Jak in 2007 so I have Yoshi doing slightly better. Remember Jak's game was the PS2 GotY.
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Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent

Zero vs. Yoshi: Who you got?
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"

I'll say fiction based on the Zero match. I'm certainly hoping it's fiction!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Crono doubling Missingno wouldn't surprise me.
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Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent

I figured you'd want Crono/Missingno to be the bigger blowout so you don't have to worry about Yoshi next round!
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

I'm more worried about Missingno than Yoshi.

And one last word about Ezio/Zelda: Curt didn't bring this up tonight. At this point I honestly hope Ezio wins or gets close just so he can laugh at this topic, which has been trolling him if anything. He's actually argued for Ezio with reasoning, whether or not you agree with it or think it's good reasoning, and the response has been "lol no way" and "haha Simon Belmont haha."
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

And one last word about Ezio/Zelda: Curt didn't bring this up tonight. At this point I honestly hope Ezio wins or gets close just so he can laugh at this topic, which has been trolling him if anything. He's actually argued for Ezio with reasoning, whether or not you agree with it or think it's good reasoning, and the response has been "lol no way" and "haha Simon Belmont haha."

The problem with that is the fact that Ezio laid a huge egg against Simon. Even if you want to take the CT/Castlevania SFF route, there's almost nothing in the way of evidence since Simon only made two contests, one of which was 2002, and what little evidence we have is inconclusive. And I ask you: Would you take Simon Belmont to beat Travis Touchdown?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Rats... The whole two contests bit was excluding this one.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Zero vs. Yoshi: Who you got?

Yoshi
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...Just repeat to yourself / It's just a show / I should really just relax...

Umm... why are you guys putting Zero in Yoshi's tier? He's fallen to Master Chief/Ryu Hayabusa levels. He's a tier or two below Yoshi.
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Good Times,
Great Memories

Hasn't Yoshi also fallen quite far? He went from impressing us in '06 and '07 to disappointing in '08, no?

He doesn't have a shred of logic behind his pick and Zelda is going to at worst, 60-40 Ezio
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Ezio would not lose to Liquid Snake. Unless you think that Altair is 10%+ stronger than Ezio. @_@

Would you take Simon Belmont to beat Travis Touchdown?

Yes, I would. By a lot actually. But again, I'm in favor of Ezio > Zelda (although I truly believe it's a long shot after his performance against Simon, and I'm trying to find a reason why Belmont could be under-rated). But even without my bias towards Ezio I think that Simon should be the favorite over Travis if they met.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Would you take Simon Belmont to beat Travis Touchdown?

Absolutely, yes.

And yeah, after Ezio/Simon there really isn't much of an argument for him beating Zelda. Doesn't mean we have to attack it as the most unlikely upset ever though.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

He doesn't have a shred of logic behind his pick and Zelda is going to at worst, 60-40 Ezio

I'd account bet you on this, but I know that you would never follow through. But this is horribly wrong. At worst Ezio will get 41%.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Ezio would not lose to Liquid Snake. Unless you think that Altair is 10%+ stronger than Ezio. @_@

I do, and have said this since before the contest started. Ezio is too new, and the only reason he has any strength whatsoever is because he looks like Altair. Altair would crush Ezio without any problems.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Altair had a great match; Ezio had an awful one. There's a lot more discussion to be had surrounding Vivi/Altair than Zelda/Ezio. I'd probably switch to having Altair in my bracket if I could.
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Mustache...and Green...

I'd account bet but I'm never going to bet some new user with a terrible account like that. And nobody credible enough for me to bet would ever take that pick in their right minds.
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Nice sig, BT.
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If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer!

On the current match, the fact that Vincent can't do anything to Guybrush Threepwood during the day is indicative of just how awful FFVII's day vote is now.

And the mighty pirate has 35% in Europe! Considering that Vincent should be really strong there - Cloud nearly beat Link in Europe in the final last year - that's quite impressive!
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Mustache...and Green...

Altair beating Ezio one on one =/= being 10% stronger than him compared to other characters. That's a big mistake. That's like Cloud beating Squall 90 - 10 would mean Squall could only compete against other characters that score 10% on Cloud.

Altair isn't 10% stronger than Ezio relative to other characters; they're far too similar for that to be true.

I have Altair > Vivi in my bracket -- although I think a more debated match should be Kirby vs. Altair. I wish someone would account bet BT that Ezio is breaking 40% on Zelda no matter what. Just to see his arrogant, ignorant ass gone. I guess it will just have to be enough that I can point out how wrong he was when Ezio does do better than 40%. I'd be happy enough with him getting at least that.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Better match for Europe!Vincent:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3301&region=EUR

Sephiroth/Crono is going to be very painful between 4 and 7 AM.
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Mustache...and Green...

account betting sounds incredibly dumb

Absolutely, yes.

And yeah, after Ezio/Simon there really isn't much of an argument for him beating Zelda. Doesn't mean we have to attack it as the most unlikely upset ever though.

Why?

Indeed. Even so, after Ezio's bomb, you Ezio supporters are skating on very thin ice.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

And one last word about Ezio/Zelda: Curt didn't bring this up tonight. At this point I honestly hope Ezio wins or gets close just so he can laugh at this topic, which has been trolling him if anything. He's actually argued for Ezio with reasoning, whether or not you agree with it or think it's good reasoning, and the response has been "lol no way" and "haha Simon Belmont haha."

I don't agree with this at all. There is basically no logic at all for Ezio>Zelda, and his incessant bringing it up is what would be more reasonably considered trolling if anything.

Now I wouldn't consider it trolling myself, but it is annoying. There's certainly no need to mention it until the match comes around. When no one is really interested is discussing such an unviable upset except one dude, you reach a point where dismissing it is the only thing you can do.

I'd suggest people just ignore it though, rather than insulting it.
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There's no need to insult it. Argue it if you want, or ignore it.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

At worst Ezio will get 41%.

I was thinking that'd be more of a best case scenario for Ezio, if anything.

He's actually argued for Ezio with reasoning

Yeah, he's used reasoning, but his reasoning is based on assumptions that are faulty and are stretching the facts. If Ezio beats Zelda, I'll be shocked, because there's not a single thing you can use to spin in Ezio's favor at this point without really stretching the facts. Not that it stopped Kefka from beating Arthas or Jill from beating Ocelot or Knuckles from beating Magus, but yeah.

On the current match, the fact that Vincent can't do anything to Guybrush Threepwood during the day is indicative of just how awful FFVII's day vote is now.

We saw Captain Falcon have the exact same problems with Wander last Saturday (Kinda funny since we were arguing Guybrush vs. Wander earlier today), and I have a hard time believing Wander's day vote is much better than Guybrush's or that Captain Falcon's is on the same level as Vincent's. I don't think this says much of anything about FFVII's day vote, though I do agree it's fallen quite a bit.
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

I didn't bring up Ezio vs. Zelda this time. I just argued it when it was brought up.

Anyway, Ezio > Zelda forever! If Ezio performs well against Zelda I just think it means that Simon has been under-estimated because of the SFF of always being stuck with Crono.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Since when does Crono SFF Simon?
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Forgot about that. Maybe it's a Saturday thing?

Or maybe we can blame Europe? Guybrush is doing quite well there and so did Wander (36%!).
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Mustache...and Green...

We already explained as to why we (or I) might believe there to be CC/Castlevania SFF. Just read up. I just don't think that Simon has had a real gauge because he's never been matched up against someone other than Crono until now. It's not unreasonable to believe there is SFF between them.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Why on earth would Crono, a SNES JRPG character, SFF an NES Castlevania character?
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #291
Why on earth would Crono, a SNES JRPG character, SFF an NES Castlevania character?

people claim "old school sff".

i claim "BS"
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I Am Albion Hero!

People are citing old-school SFF as a reason for Simon's horrendous past two outings. However, shouldn't that make all of Ryu's losses littered with such?

Stop nominating Guybrush.

Ehh, no!
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MRA and proud!
*Tails's soul comes to haunt Kratos*

Zelda > Kratos, right? Past contest results suggest this. Tails > Simon Belmont, right? The vote-ins and past contest results suggest this. Kratos beat Tails worse than Ezio beat Simon. Using this fairly safe method, Zelda > Ezio looks all but official. I'm staying away from the rest of that discussion...

...though I wish EternalxCourage would argue in matches that don't involve Ezio/Zelda. It's fine if you feel strongly about a match, but it's like you don't care about any other and this is the match we know you for. When that's combined with rather-faulty logic (Chrono Trigger/Castlevania SFF?) and have no other real history with us, we're often not going to take you as very credible until you're right...and even then, we may be skeptical. Sorry, not trying to be elitist, but we've seen a lot of contests and don't expect much from somebody who almost 60-40'd Simon Belmont.


Guybrush-supporters, you argue Guybrush brings more fun to the contests, but I dare say this has been the worst day for discussion yet this contest for our topics!
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We already explained as to why we (or I) might believe there to be CC/Castlevania SFF. Just read up. I just don't think that Simon has had a real gauge because he's never been matched up against someone other than Crono until now. It's not unreasonable to believe there is SFF between them.

Just because he's been stuck with Crono a few years, that's why you believe there's SFF there? That's a really stupid reasoning.

I can understand you thinking that Crono is hiding Simon's real strength like Snake/Knuckles, but there wasn't SFF there and there's definitely not any here. But if Crono was hiding Simon's strength, do you really believe Simon to be that much stronger than Alucard?
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Bowser_vs_Guybrush_Threepwood_2004

Ulti should probably just repaste this writeup for Vincent/Guybrush, and then change around wording as appropriate. This is exactly what I thought of when I saw the way the Jenova division was arranged. And...some 16 seeds are probably stronger than some 2 seeds! Whoopeedoo!

This is a weekend match and says absolutely nothing about FFVII's day vote. There would be no reason for an amazing day vote character to gain at all on a horrible day vote character here, since the whole match is day vote.

Sephiroth going even with Marth during the weekend morning vote was a far better indicator, if you actually want to take anything from these matches.
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KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest.

The one reason for keeping Guybrush around is that he's probably the strongest character from his genre (the point and click type adventure games.)

I could be wrong about that though, but I can't imagine Sam and Max or one of the Maniac Mansion/Day of the Tentacle characters being stronger.

Purple Tentacle for the 2011 contest!

Random King's Quest character for CB2k11
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