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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 829
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 3:30:35 PM | message detail |
From: EternalxCourage | #200 If we take Sonic > Lightning as the same Lightning in the vote in poll, then Missingno beats Crono. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 3:30:52 PM | message detail |
Anyone
else think Guybrush will end up last in the X-stats? He gets destroyed
by Vincent, who then gets plastered by Sephiroth, who eventually gets
smashed by Cloud. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 3:33:03 PM | message detail |
Why are people even entertaining the thought of Missingno over Crono? It's dumb and shouldn't even be joked about at this point. Ken > Ganondorf is 100x more likely. Bold: And THAT'S about as dumb as all that Ezio > Zelda nonsense you had no problem advocating earlier. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 3:37:01 PM | message detail |
I
wish Bacon would do a better job with the vote-ins and brackets. Other
than that, the only real con to vote-ins is a lower likelihood of
blowouts while still having low potential for upsets. Of the characters
who made the vote-in polls, the only winners were, what, Mega Man X
(lol), The Boss, Sub-Zero, Jecht, and potentially Big Daddy and (can't
believe I'm entertaining this) Peach? Still, there's no harm in it, and gives us more interesting polls that give us an idea of how strong certain characters are. I just want to see at least one 90%+ blowout again. Though Tingle seems to have enough strength to get third or fourth in a vote-in poll, which should be enough to get a 16 seed against Link! --- Not Wylvane |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 3:39:41 PM | message detail |
Missingno
> Crono has a 1-2% probability of happening. Very, very unlikely,
but Missingno may potentially be the strongest newcomer this contest,
and Crono isn't get any stronger. Crono's still incredibly strong though, and even if Missingno is the strongest Pokemon and joke character combined, that still may not be enough to thwart Crono, especially in Round 1 before he can pick up steam. Missingno winning would be a huge upset, but one that does have merit in taking. --- Not Wylvane |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 3:40:53 PM | message detail |
If Missingno has enough strength to beat Crono in round 1 without a bandwagon, then I'm calling him to win the whole contest. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 3:41:56 PM | message detail |
Ezio actually has a viable chance against Zelda -- Missingno has no chance whatsoever against Crono. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 3:43:12 PM | message detail |
Both are losing. And Snake too btw. Just thought I'd mention it! --- :> |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 3:44:18 PM | message detail |
Ezio
is the strongest newcomer this contest. Missingno is a joke -- even if
he showed moderate strength it would be because of this. While you'll argue that a joke character still has legitimate strength -- it doesn't. After the novelty wears off they end up being nothing more than a joke without a band-wagon. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 3:44:27 PM | message detail |
Ezio actually has a viable chance against Zelda lolololol After that turd-worthy performance against Simon? Dream on. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 3:46:32 PM | message detail |
Because Zelda showed a MUCH better performance against Travis Touchdown. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 3:46:42 PM | message detail |
Ezio probably is the strongest newcomer. Not saying a whole lot, probably one of the weakest years ever for newcomers. --- :> |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 3:47:33 PM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #212 Charizard would own him. Hard. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/13/2010 3:48:40 PM | message detail |
Charizard is the strongest newcomer. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 3:49:17 PM | message detail |
"Whoops" again. Yeah, that's right. --- :> |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 3:50:06 PM | message detail |
Because Zelda showed a MUCH better performance against Travis Touchdown. Hey, it's better than not even getting 60% against SIMON BELMONT. And FYI, I'd take Travis Touchdown over Simon Belmont. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 3:50:16 PM | message detail |
Ezio > Charizard. Also this is where people come out with some way of making Zelda look way better than Ezio despite her performance against Travis. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 3:53:24 PM | message detail |
From: EternalxCourage | #217 We don't really have to twist anything to make Zelda look better after Ezio did worse against Simon Belmont than Sam Fisher and Raiden. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 2/13/2010 3:53:48 PM | message detail |
charizard would stomp ezio, quit spreading crap --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 3:54:58 PM | message detail |
Ezio > Charizard. Also this is where people come out with some way of making Zelda look way better than Ezio despite her performance against Travis. No. Look who's talking, you're the one trying to spin an absolutely disastrous result for Ezio in his favor. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 3:58:34 PM | message detail |
Ezio
is a midcarder. Probably a little above the low midcard scene since he
has a favorable image. But that's it. I'd wager he can get 40-42% on
Zelda maximum. --- :> |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:02:53 PM | message detail |
What kind of read have we ever gotten of Simon Belmont? The only time he's been in the contest he's been paired with Crono (every time) and they definitely have an overlapping fanbase in my opinion. Agree or not, you can't make a decent argument that Simon has ever had a decent strength measuring match. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 4:03:33 PM | message detail |
Spin spin spin --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 4:03:53 PM | message detail |
Because it's Simon Belmont? I mean really what the hell has he done lately? --- :> |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 4:07:44 PM | message detail |
What kind of read have we ever gotten of Simon Belmont? The only time he's been in the contest he's been paired with Crono (every time) and they definitely have an overlapping fanbase in my opinion. Agree or not, you can't make a decent argument that Simon has ever had a decent strength measuring match. You're in damage control mode again. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:23:02 PM | message detail |
It's not damage control -- I'm well aware that Ezio has a very small chance of beating Zelda -- but he has a chance. I'm curious as to why Simon is automatically weak despite never having a real gauge. Also saying 'what has he done lately' doesn't really count. What has Crono done lately? Nothing more than Simon. They come from the same system, and I find a lot of people that liked CC also enjoy Castlevania. It's not unreasonable to believe they fall into the same type of character category (in relation to the contest) and that Simon, while weakening over the years, draws from a lot of the same fanbase as Crono. While clearly not to the same extent, but enough to make him stronger than he has appeared in his contest matches (except against Ezio if Ezio manages to beat Zelda.) --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/13/2010 4:24:06 PM | message detail |
Why are people responding to this Ezio > Zelda nonsense when it is obviously trolling --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:24:49 PM | message detail |
Gotta agree with BT here. ...gross. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
Draco1214 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:31:25 PM | message detail |
I wonder how much SFF Crono would had to have dealt to Simon in order for Ezio to even stand a chance against Zelda. Wouldn't Simon have to be Vivi level? --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:36:11 PM | message detail |
If
you think about it it's not that unlikely. It's understandable that
Alucard is stronger than Simon -- but why would he be THAT much
stronger than Simon? I'm not trolling. You guys are seriously annoying with that ****. Why not just discuss opinions that other people have rather than dismissing them as trolling? Especially since you're listening to someone who you have labelled a troll forever. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 4:37:30 PM | message detail |
From: EternalxCourage | #230 Your trolling in the other topic isn't really helping your case any. --- :> |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:38:47 PM | message detail |
I'm
not trolling. I honestly think it's wrong to look at child porn --
regardless of whether or not it's drawn. I see no artistic merit in
drawing children having sex. This is pointless to bring up in the contest stats and discussion topic. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/13/2010 4:39:52 PM | message detail |
what the |
medicority | Posted 2/13/2010 4:40:34 PM | message detail |
Alucard probably has a lot more visual appeal than Simon. Though I still voted for simon, ezio who? |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 4:40:48 PM | message detail |
From: EternalxCourage | #232 Yet you see the artistic merit in controlling Ezio to murder people. --- :> |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:40:58 PM | message detail |
Ezio
> Zelda is probably more likely than Missingno > Crono. I think
Red > MMX is still, even now, more likely than either, and all 3 are
really unlikely. Ezio > Zelda requires you to believe in Crono/Simon SFF, which isn't impossible. After Ezio/Simon, it's bad, but we've entertained worse upsets before in this topic, so there's no need to attack him as trolling. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Draco1214 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:41:58 PM | message detail |
but why would he be THAT much stronger than Simon? Because Alucard is the main character of the most popular Castlevania game by far. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:45:18 PM | message detail |
And by the way, the evidence for CT/Castlevania SFF, which is very limited and certainly not conclusive, is this: SOTN's percentage on Mario 64, round 1: 33.52% SOTN's percentage on Mario 64, round 2: 26.63% Note that Kirby Super Star was in the first poll and Yoshi's Island was in the second poll- the effects on Mario 64 from those games probably was not terribly large. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/13/2010 4:45:55 PM | message detail |
If
you think about it it's not that unlikely. It's understandable that
Alucard is stronger than Simon -- but why would he be THAT much
stronger than Simon? I'm not trolling. You guys are seriously annoying with that ****. Why not just discuss opinions that other people have rather than dismissing them as trolling? Especially since you're listening to someone who you have labelled a troll forever. You're trying to provoke a response by saying what's clearly a false statement in implying Simon has strength, which he has never shown. And they're listening to me because I contribute to this topic and have a history of being right more often than not. Even when I'm "trolling" (which people only label it as because I disagree with their perceived consensus), I'm still using facts and past data to justify my position. You have done neither. Ezio > Zelda is based entirely on conjecture and wildly baseless expectations for both characters to perform completely differently than what they have in the past. The simplest answer is more often than not the correct one. That's what I base my brackets off of and I usually do pretty damn good in these things. The problem with 2007 Zero was that I was ignoring the trend of Mega Man/Nintendo SFF, and how badly Link's presence would affect him. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/13/2010 4:47:12 PM | message detail |
EternalxCourage Posted 2/13/2010 7:38:47 PM message detail I'm not trolling. I honestly think it's wrong to look at child porn -- regardless of whether or not it's drawn. I see no artistic merit in drawing children having sex. This is pointless to bring up in the contest stats and discussion topic. Wow, welcome to 5 years ago bud --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:48:04 PM | message detail |
I
really don't see how it's unreasonable to believe that SOTN and
Castlevania have SFF. But whatever. You can dismiss it as trolling, but
I still say that Ezio is the best chance we have at a new character
being close to the N9, and he has a good chance at Zelda. How much SFF would be needed for Simon to be on Vivi's level? --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 4:49:22 PM | message detail |
... yeah, I'll be back next match. --- :> |
Draco1214 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:50:09 PM | message detail |
Considering he looked much weaker than Sam Fisher, a lot of SFF. By the way, Simon being on Vivi's level would require that Simon be significantly stronger than Alucard, and for him to hang with the likes of Zero. ...yeah, not happening. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:51:39 PM | message detail |
You would take Vivi over Alucard? =/ --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
Draco1214 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:52:34 PM | message detail |
Have you seen Alucard's recent contest history? Donkey Kong might give Alucard a run nowadays. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:53:59 PM | message detail |
Wait
a minute, Ezio's not facing 2005 or 2006 Zelda. No one would pick Ezio
to beat Zelda if they thought she was still that strong, and
Vivi/Alucard would be pretty debatable. It's one thing to argue that Ezio has a small chance, it's quite another to say he should be the favorite. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
EternalxCourage | Posted 2/13/2010 4:55:18 PM | message detail |
I
dunno, according to recent contests Alucard is stronger than Vivi (in
the x-stats) and he looked mighty impressive in his first round match
(unlike Vivi.) --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul. |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:55:25 PM | message detail |
Have you seen Alucard's recent contest history? Donkey Kong might give Alucard a run nowadays. Alucard isn't losing to DK. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:56:38 PM | message detail |
And
they're listening to me because I contribute to this topic and have a
history of being right more often than not. Even when I'm "trolling"
(which people only label it as because I disagree with their perceived
consensus), I'm still using facts and past data to justify my position.
You have done neither. Ezio > Zelda is based entirely on conjecture
and wildly baseless expectations for both characters to perform
completely differently than what they have in the past. The simplest
answer is more often than not the correct one. That's what I base my
brackets off of and I usually do pretty damn good in these things. The
problem with 2007 Zero was that I was ignoring the trend of Mega
Man/Nintendo SFF, and how badly Link's presence would affect him. People find you annoying (I personally don't) because you state your picks as fact and insult anyone who holds opposing points of view. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Draco1214 | Posted 2/13/2010 4:57:07 PM | message detail |
He lost to pre-MGS4 Liquid and did poorly against Captain Falcon despite Nintendo SFF. I'd take nearly beating Zero over that. --- No match for KrahenProphet's extreme Guru skills. |
