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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 828

LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:32:58 AM | message detail
Well some of you have just lost your privilege to ever complain about the contests being entertaining.
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vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:33:08 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #400
Like I'll give you an example

Lets say you're a fan of a football team thats not really that good, but were able to get into the playoffs due to lots of luck, even though they have no right being in the playoffs. Would you not want your team to make the playoffs even if better teams are being left out?


Bad example. Teams change, are you even being serious? Guybrush sucks and he always will. There is no changing.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:33:18 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #391
Ryo Hazuki believe or not was a respected character back then. Also the idea that not enough people know Guybrush is silly when I can say the same thing about Wander. SotC fans don't even recognize him in the picture.


Respected doesn't mean he has any strength. He just happened to face two characters in 2002 he could easily overperform against (Guybrush and Lara Croft). I doubt he was much stronger in 2002 than he was in 2003.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 9:33:54 AM | message detail
Bowser didn't even sextuple him in that match. He couldn't even reach the quintupling either. A quintupling requires a minimum of at least 83.33%.

Ah well. At least I can safely say that Bowser quadrupled him.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:34:02 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #398
Apparently what I said about what's good for the contest is mind boggling for some of you.


Apparently you don't understand that some people like these contests for different reasons than us. Believe it or not, there are people who are more interested in seeing their favorites make the contest than seeing exciting matches!

Just like how there are more people who find voting a Tetris block to win the contest funnier than protecting the "integrity" of the contest. You're free to disagree, but it's a bit ridiculous that you act so incredulous that other people may have different opinions than you.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:34:05 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #398
Apparently what I said about what's good for the contest is mind boggling for some of you.


It is not our place to decide what is good or bad foer the contest. Where's the ****ing romance? Guybrush might be weak but the fact that he repeatedly appears in these is great mostly because he for the most part represents the adventure genre and is a very fun character.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:34:58 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #400
Like I'll give you an example

Lets say you're a fan of a football team thats not really that good, but were able to get into the playoffs due to lots of luck, even though they have no right being in the playoffs. Would you not want your team to make the playoffs even if better teams are being left out?


Man, if you can get in the playoffs over the course of a season, you've earned it, unless the games were rigged.

Plus, sports are a bit different than this. Big upsets happen in sports. In March Madness, you can see the Guybrush Threepwoods of college basketball beat the Vincent Valentines in one big game. Here, that ain't happening.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:35:05 AM | message detail
I nominate the characters I like the best. I wasn't aware I was supposed to nominate the strongest characters.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:35:08 AM | message detail
the most part represents the adventure genre

Which can be represented by the much more popular Phoenix Wright.
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vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:35:11 AM | message detail
If you guys are casual fans and want to love your favorite characters that's fine and all.

This is the stats topic however. Don't talk down to people who are interested in that aspect of the contest or want to see something exciting.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:35:32 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #407
Man, if you can get in the playoffs over the course of a season, you've earned it


Jets
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:35:33 AM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #401
Well some of you have just lost your privilege to ever complain about the contests being entertaining.


Rubbish, completely diffewrent things (presuming you're talking to Cyclo and the others defending Guybrush).
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:36:35 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #410
If you guys are casual fans and want to love your favorite characters that's fine and all.

This is the stats topic however. Don't talk down to people who are interested in that aspect of the contest or want to see something exciting.


Yet people here are talking down to others that simply want to see their favorites in the contest.
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vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:36:57 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #411
Jets


Yeah, let's see Guybrush have a winning record over 16 matches no matter who he faces. He wouldn't. The Jets also won against good teams. Guybrush wouldn't win against anyone that's good, ever. It doesn't matter if Vincent had only a picture of his gun, on Chaos form or no picture at all. He'd still win and win big.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:37:19 AM | message detail
From: vcharon | #402
Bad example. Teams change, are you even being serious? Guybrush sucks and he always will. There is no changing.

So what. I still root for him to be given a winnable shot. It's not likely, but he's awesome and I love him, so why shouldn't I want it to happen? How is it any better than wanting Cloud to win? Because Guybrush is weak I shouldn't want him to be strong?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:37:24 AM | message detail
Respected doesn't mean he has any strength. He just happened to face two characters in 2002 he could easily overperform against (Guybrush and Lara Croft). I doubt he was much stronger in 2002 than he was in 2003.

Ryo Hazuki (2003c) VS Ryo Hazuki (2002c)

Ryo Hazuki has a strength of 12.62.
Ryo Hazuki has a strength of 17.71.

Ryo Hazuki wins with 64.37% of the vote!
A win of 21,079 with 73,342 total votes cast.


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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:37:50 AM | message detail
And I'd be more apt to blame crappy bracket making for boring contests than an influx of fodder, which we'd be forced to have in a 128-character bracket regardless.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:38:09 AM | message detail
And all this whining makes me want to nominate Guybrush even more, since you all take the stats too seriously. This is supposed to be fun, and have our favorite characters going at it in a popularity contest. Its not serious business.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:38:55 AM | message detail
*different, obviously

From: vcharon | #410
If you guys are casual fans and want to love your favorite characters that's fine and all.

This is the stats topic however. Don't talk down to people who are interested in that aspect of the contest or want to see something exciting.


There are plenty of opportunities for "exciting" matches, while blowouts like these will always happen. If it's not Guybrush it'll be someone else, and I can guarantee that character won't be anything like as fun. You're one to talk about talking down, as well.

From: LOLContests | #409
the most part represents the adventure genre

Which can be represented by the much more popular Phoenix Wright.


Sure. But I think such a genre requires more than one representative in a 128 character field, personally. Considering the amount of shooter and RPG characters we get.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:39:30 AM | message detail
Tripling is the new quadrupling.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:39:43 AM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #419
Sure. But I think such a genre requires more than one representative in a 128 character field, personally.


And not even to mention Phoenix Wright is nothing like the LucasArts adventure games.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:40:26 AM | message detail
This is supposed to be fun,

Which is why I'm arguing for interesting matches? Who cares about legitimacy? Guybrush isn't fun. This is the same logic that lead to Fire Emblem replacing Golden Sun.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:40:55 AM | message detail
I wouldn't mind seeing Guybrush in a 64 battle for the record, though I wouldn't be gutted if he was snubbed because of how weak he is - I can accept there would be better characters taking his place.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:04 AM | message detail
I mean christ how many damned Tails characters are there that have never won anything? RPG characters are the most represented group. Have a go at them.

I don't find them fun, but if they get the nominations they get a slot.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:07 AM | message detail
For the record, Guybrush's appearances were an influence in me playing Secret of Monkey Island, which I enjoyed a lot, enough that I later bought the remake on my 360.

If Guybrush's constant appearances can pique enough interest that a few people try out his games and discover a genre of old games they may like, more power to the people who keep nominating him.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:19 AM | message detail
Lumpy doesn't ever get to accuse anyone of taking something too seriously.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:24 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #411
Jets


Yeah, they sure proved they didn't deserve to be in the playoffs this year.

Oh wait.

From: charmander6000 | #416
Respected doesn't mean he has any strength. He just happened to face two characters in 2002 he could easily overperform against (Guybrush and Lara Croft). I doubt he was much stronger in 2002 than he was in 2003.

Ryo Hazuki (2003c) VS Ryo Hazuki (2002c)

Ryo Hazuki has a strength of 12.62.
Ryo Hazuki has a strength of 17.71.

Ryo Hazuki wins with 64.37% of the vote!
A win of 21,079 with 73,342 total votes cast.


Did you miss the point of my post? You know, the part where I said Ryo got lucky to face two characters he could vastly overperform against.

In fact, you posting that pretty much reinforces my point because that's a ridiculously large difference for one year.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:25 AM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #422
Which is why I'm arguing for interesting matches?


Tell me one 9 seed that coulda replaced Guybrush from this contest that coulda made this match any more interesting.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:51 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #421
And not even to mention Phoenix Wright is nothing like the LucasArts adventure games.


Of course it is, but I said "adventure games" so can't exactly criticise him for bringing up another adventure game, different as they obviously are.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:41:54 AM | message detail
In all fairness, if this keeps up, Guybrush will not look that bad when all is said and done, but why is he randomly gaining so fast in America?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:42:07 AM | message detail
From: LOLContests | #422
Guybrush isn't fun.

Whoo opinions!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:42:27 AM | message detail
This is supposed to be fun

Yeah, I know I'm having a blast, eagerly hitting F5 a minute in advance waiting to see how the next update of this match is going. How 'bout you?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:43:21 AM | message detail
I mean christ how many damned Tails characters are there that have never won anything? RPG characters are the most represented group. Have a go at them.

I don't find them fun, but if they get the nominations they get a slot.


I don't think anyone wants them in either.
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vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:43:32 AM | message detail
What part about this being the Stats topic do people not get? You're in the Stats topic. Tell me how Guybrush is fun stat wise. To see just how pathetic he is each year? To see if he can possibly do even worse?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/13/2010 9:43:47 AM | message detail
If there's ever a character to prove the vote cap theory, it's Guybrush.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:44:05 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #433
I mean christ how many damned Tails characters are there that have never won anything? RPG characters are the most represented group. Have a go at them.

I don't find them fun, but if they get the nominations they get a slot.


I don't think anyone wants them in either.


You all want Jigglypuff to get into the contest to "have the full SSB set", but she'd be complete fodder. Let people have their fodder if you want fodder as well.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:44:14 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #432
This is supposed to be fun

Yeah, I know I'm having a blast, eagerly hitting F5 a minute in advance waiting to see how the next update of this match is going. How 'bout you?


Yeah, this match sure would be more exciting if, say, Kirby or Pikachu or Sora were here instead!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:44:28 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #428
Tell me one 9 seed that coulda replaced Guybrush from this contest that coulda made this match any more interesting.


His argument seems to be that you shouldn't be nominating Guybrush in the first place, meaning one of the 10 seeds would be in this match. So Tifa.

Argument is crap either way, of course; just pointing that out.
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vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:45:12 AM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #436
You all want Jigglypuff to get into the contest to "have the full SSB set", but she'd be complete fodder. Let people have their fodder if you want fodder as well.


Bad example #567533

Jigglypuff's strength wasn't known before this year. It still isn't really, but I am thinking most of those supporters will be moving on and forgetting about her. Care to present another terrible argument?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:45:30 AM | message detail
You all want Jigglypuff to get into the contest to "have the full SSB set", but she'd be complete fodder. Let people have their fodder if you want fodder as well.

Except Jigglypuff has never been in a contest and was SFF to hell in the vote-in.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/13/2010 9:45:35 AM | message detail
Symphonia is one of my favorite games, and I'd have no problems with them ceasing to stink up the joint. Lloyd and Kratos are the only ones deserving of the field, but them not being here would be no loss.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:45:48 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #437
Yeah, this match sure would be more exciting if, say, Kirby or Pikachu or Sora were here instead!


Actually, it would. I'd be very interested to see how strong, established contest near elites (or close to it) would perform relative to Vincent.

But you're throwing a red herring at me with that, so whatever.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/13/2010 9:46:09 AM | message detail
not sure what's going on right now
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:46:09 AM | message detail
and honestly, we have like half the fields as nintendo or square. is it really that much to ask to have ONE lucasarts character? I mean, really?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:46:12 AM | message detail
From: vcharon | #434
What part about this being the Stats topic do people not get? You're in the Stats topic. Tell me how Guybrush is fun stat wise. To see just how pathetic he is each year? To see if he can possibly do even worse?

Right. I am in the stats topic. I'm not allowed opinions. I must nominate the 15 strongest characters to enable them to receive the right seeds so we can have a bracket with perfect seedings and no seeding upsets from the first round to the last.

Someone always has to lose to Link, does it matter if they get 7% or 22%?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/13/2010 9:46:23 AM | message detail
There is absolutely no possible way Jigglypuff would be fodder. I 100% guarantee it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:46:33 AM | message detail
Oh, and Tales of has exactly two more wins than Guybrush has or ever will have, for the record.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:47:17 AM | message detail

From: vcharon | #434
What part about this being the Stats topic do people not get? You're in the Stats topic. Tell me how Guybrush is fun stat wise. To see just how pathetic he is each year? To see if he can possibly do even worse?


Contest Stats and Discussion.

Have you missed the hundreds of conversations here that had nothing to do with Contest Stats? Hell, there have been conversations here that had nothing to do with the Contests!

Last I checked, there was no rule set on what you can and can't discuss here. Obviously, the topic's about the contests and if you try to derail you'll probably get modded for off topic or flat-out ignored if you constantly post unrelated stuff, but pretty much anything contest-related is fair game here, whether it relates to numbers or not.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:47:48 AM | message detail
Meh, every contest needs fodder. I'm not arguing against Guybrush being in this contest, really. If you want to nominate him, knock yourself out. He'll never provide an entertaining match though, so I just don't understand why you guys say it's fun having him in here. That's what confuses me.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 2/13/2010 9:47:52 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #397
CATS can only get 20% in a poll, that is his cap.

Hello there Ansem.


While you're right about percentage, characters do have a vote total cap. Whatever they'd get being the only option in the poll would be their max (I don't think anti-votes could make up for votes lost to the other character, that would require some extreme hate).
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