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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 828
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:16:49 AM | message detail |
Man, Wander would beat Guybrush. I would take Guybrush in that match (or rather the higher seed). Guybrush isn't even turbo fodder, he's like mid fodder. there must be seven characters this year who are weaker. Yes he is, at best he's low fodder. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/13/2010 9:17:26 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3787®ion=EUR lol, Vincent is doing bad on Guybrush over there. I'm pretty sure that Vincent would have lost the FFVII total domination zone to Guybrush if this was a night match. And Vincent is above 80% in the US and Canada. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:17:34 AM | message detail |
Guybrush isn't even turbo fodder, he's like mid fodder. Guybrush is turbo fodder. He got tripled by Altair last year, and nearly got tripled by Duke, Gordon, and Ike in 2007. Guybrush is just fortunate that this is anti-blowoutFAQs now. Chris only got 68% on MacMillan, by the way. Not quite a tripling. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:18:17 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #344 Wander has beaten Guybush on Gamespot, actually. Still don't get the whining. He's liked enough to keep making 128-character brackets, and it's not as if 75% of our newcomers each year would threaten even Guybrush. Have you forgotten some of the incredibly weak-ass characters we've seen? Would you rather have Axel Steel and Nathan Hale back? --- Not Wylvane |
LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:18:22 AM | message detail |
Yeah, Wander needs to get the hell out of these contests too. Adventure games are point and click games from the 90s on PC. and Phoenix Wright. --- "War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other"--Niko Bellic Yesmar |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:18:35 AM | message detail |
If
it weren't for how rare blowouts have been this contest, this wouldn't
even be considered a good performance for Vincent. Remember Bowser got
83% or something against Guybrush back in 2004. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:18:41 AM | message detail |
As long as Europe exists, Guybrush will always make these contests. Guybrush and Monkey Island are pretty big in Europe. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:06 AM | message detail |
and it's not as if 75% of our newcomers each year would threaten even Guybrush. Yeah, I know. 95% of them would whip him. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:09 AM | message detail |
Wander has beaten Guybush on Gamespot, actually. lol GameSpot. No one cares about Wander here. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:35 AM | message detail |
Tripled by vincent isn't that bad. It'll be close to quadrupled by Vincent despite the benefit of anti-FF7 votes artificially boosting Guybrush's strength. Guybrush is horribly weak fodder. A lot of the characters you listed could beat or at least put up a fight against Guybrush. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:48 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #354 There are at least 128 characters (I'm being nice here, it's probably closer to 500 or even more) that would beat Guybrush. When you're at that level of terrible, it's time to just call it a day. No one has ever cared about him and now it's been proven even making his games available again doesn't change that. --- :> |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:52 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #359 And nobody cares about Guybrush anywhere. Wander would beat him. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
voltch | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:53 AM | message detail |
man on gamespot, cloud would have probably lost against ridley. --- Shakes Fist! |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:19:58 AM | message detail |
Axel Steel.....he gave us plenty of entertainment just because of how much BT hyped him. "GH3 > Melee." --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:20:06 AM | message detail |
He's liked enough to keep making 128-character brackets, and it's not as if 75% of our newcomers each year would threaten even Guybrush. THAT'S NOT TRUE. Repeating stuff that is not true does not automatically make it true. Have you forgotten some of the incredibly weak-ass characters we've seen? Would you rather have Axel Steel and Nathan Hale back? I would rather have none of them back, including Guybrush. At least not for five years or so. --- "War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other"--Niko Bellic Yesmar |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:20:46 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #361 Obviously some people care about him, or else he wouldn't be a 9 seed! --- Not Wylvane |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:20:51 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #362 If you held it on a Europe based site, he'd be a midcarder. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:20:54 AM | message detail |
Epic fall by Guybrush. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/13/2010 9:21:05 AM | message detail |
And
yes, Guybrush IS turbofodder. Nearly tripled by Ryo Hazuki, sextupled
(or whatever) by Bowser, nearly tripled by ALL THREE of Duke Nukem,
Gordon Freeman, AND Ike, crushed by Altair and Lucario, and now Vincent
steps up to the plate in making mincemeat out of Guybrush. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:21:40 AM | message detail |
And nobody cares about Guybrush anywhere. Wander would beat him. More like no one will vote except Europe, I don't think you know how weak Wander is. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:21:42 AM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | #365 Didn't you just repeat yourself there? Doesn't make your statement true. --- Not Wylvane |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:22:24 AM | message detail |
This site accepts votes from non-European places, and the majority of votes do not come out of Europe. It really, really doesn't matter about that. Ellis won in Suriname I think it is, that doesn't freaking mean he isn't terrible overall. --- :> |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:22:57 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #372 Europe =/= some random tiny country that probably had like 3 votes --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:23:15 AM | message detail |
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #373 World =/= Europe --- :> |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:23:25 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #370 And I don't think you know how weak Guybrush is. I'm not convinced enough people know Guybrush for him to be able to beat ANYONE 1-on-1. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:24:00 AM | message detail |
Europe provides around 15% of the votes. Not enough to raise Guybrush out of turbofodder level. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:24:35 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #374 I'm just saying that he's pretty popular in Europe, as is all the Lucas Arts adventure games from the mid 90s. Tim Schafer has a large following there. So as long as Europe exists and we have 128 characters, he's a contest staple. Can't really do anything to change that. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
HaRRicH | Posted 2/13/2010 9:24:41 AM | message detail |
If we're looking SPECIFICALLY for adventure-characters from the '90s, let's get Klaymen in. At least we don't KNOW-know he sucks terribly bad in a contest like a certain Guybrush in today's match, and he is the bomb-diggity too. Claymation Factor. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:24:46 AM | message detail |
And
I don't think you know how weak Guybrush is. I'm not convinced enough
people know Guybrush for him to be able to beat ANYONE 1-on-1. Didn't Wander finish near the bottom of both of our x-stats? The winner will probably go to the higher seed anyways. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:24:50 AM | message detail |
Eh,
Europe's being both overrated and underrated here. Europe definitely
can influence some close matches, but it's not like they're making
Guybrush into a powerhouse or anything. --- Not Wylvane |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:25:07 AM | message detail |
Oh, there's plenty of people he'd crush 1v1. Tanner, any character in Comet Crash, Jay Solano, etc. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/13/2010 9:25:48 AM | message detail |
sextupled (or whatever) by Bowser Sextupled is the right word. I rarely see people use words above "quadruple" in discussing the contests. After "quadruple", the next several words above that are "quintuple", "sextuple", "septuple", and "octuple". --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:26:14 AM | message detail |
Guybrush
is the worst sort of fodder really. He's right above ultra fodder.
Ultra fodder is at least funny, and they normally never return again.
Guybrush however returns year after year, being terrible, robbing
actual characters of strength from having decent seeds and generally
boring everyone but a small collection of fanboys on this board to
death. --- :> |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/13/2010 9:26:37 AM | message detail |
Alright, I guess they need to give us a Wander Vs. Guybrush match next year to settle this. That'll bring in the votes --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/13/2010 9:27:25 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #379 Yeah, but Shadow of the Colossus at least proved to be a game people were familiar with and liked outside of Europe in the Games Contest. I just don't think Guybrush is well known enough. He's plenty liked by people who know him, but I'm convinced Wander would beat him. I really don't think Ryo Hazuki indirectly was worth 70%+ on him, but when you put the two of them together, Ryo's gonna crush him because people at least know who he is. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:27:41 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3472 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247 vs http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3451 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3480 Eh, I'd take Wander over Guybrush. Yeah, games =/= characters, but Wander's got the much higher play rate, at the very least, plus he beat Guybrush at a site where you'd expect Guybrush to actually have an iota of strength. --- Not Wylvane |
LOLContests | Posted 2/13/2010 9:27:46 AM | message detail |
Didn't you just repeat yourself there? Doesn't make your statement true. You're the one that made the statement. The burden of proof lies on you. That's how arguments work. Here's proof anyway. Out of all our newcomers, it is reasonable to say Guybrush would be beaten by: Red Captain John Prince Lightning Claptrap Prinny Cid Highwind Charizard Jecht Ezio Vault Boy Darth Revan Missingno (probably) Soap McTavish (probably) Yuri (probably) Guybrush would probably beat: Eddie Riggs Guybrush would have a close match with: Sandal Fawful Ellis Even if you assume Guybrush beats all of the people he has a close match with that's far from 75%. --- "War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other"--Niko Bellic Yesmar |
XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:28:00 AM | message detail |
Guybrush
IS weak, but like I said, 128 is too many: there's always going to be
"wasted" spots and while newcomers at least have "unknown" values,
they're not as fun as Guybrush so I reserve my right to vote for him
and nominate him, because he's awesome, and better than the JRPG NPC
(for example) that would take his place. --- "Go and read some more Wikipedia I'm sure they have a good article on spases." - Lil69Leo |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:28:18 AM | message detail |
The thing with Guybrush is his cap of votes seems about 20k... so I don't think he can beat ANYONE. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:29:40 AM | message detail |
How
is Guybrush fun? You know exactly what he's going to do no matter who
he faces. He's blow the 1 seed if you gave it to him, with ease. --- :> |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:29:48 AM | message detail |
Ryo
Hazuki believe or not was a respected character back then. Also the
idea that not enough people know Guybrush is silly when I can say the
same thing about Wander. SotC fans don't even recognize him in the
picture. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/13/2010 9:29:53 AM | message detail |
Too bad I'm not going to win Guru, because I'd totally be tempted to choose Guybrush as my nom! I think that would trump the Toadette rage. --- Not Wylvane |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:29:54 AM | message detail |
I
don't think it really works like that. People who don't know or don't
care about either character can and do abstain from voting. Those who
vote anyway probably vote based on the picture or the name or
something- if there aren't any major advantages one character has over
the other here, that will come out to around 50/50. Guybrush can and
would get votes from people who do not know who he is if put up against
sufficiently weak fodder. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/13/2010 9:29:55 AM | message detail |
sextupled (or whatever) by Bowser Bowser didn't even sextuple him in that match. He couldn't even reach the quintupling either. A quintupling requires a minimum of at least 83.33%. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:30:19 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #390 Because people like seeing characters they love in the contest. Its not hard to understand. --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/13/2010 9:31:18 AM | message detail |
I
like seeing my favorite characters make the contest too, but I'm happy
with seeing them just once. I love Lenneth, and nominated her every
year until she made the contest, but I certainly never nominated her
again after her performance in 2006. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/13/2010 9:31:18 AM | message detail |
The thing with Guybrush is his cap of votes seems about 20k... so I don't think he can beat ANYONE. CATS can only get 20% in a poll, that is his cap. Hello there Ansem. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 46/56 - Today's Winners: Sephiroth and Vincent |
vcharon | Posted 2/13/2010 9:31:21 AM | message detail |
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #395 Apparently what I said about what's good for the contest is mind boggling for some of you. --- :> |
XIII_rocks | Posted 2/13/2010 9:32:05 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #390 The character is fun. I think in the maelstrom of stats and analysis people forget that you generally vote for who you like the most. And personally Guybrush beats a hell of a lot of the dross currently in the field. --- "Go and read some more Wikipedia I'm sure they have a good article on spases." - Lil69Leo |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/13/2010 9:32:31 AM | message detail |
Like I'll give you an example Lets say you're a fan of a football team thats not really that good, but were able to get into the playoffs due to lots of luck, even though they have no right being in the playoffs. Would you not want your team to make the playoffs even if better teams are being left out? --- http://cache-07.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_lp2_x10_005.jpg I Am Albion Hero! |
