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*Blasts One Winged Angel*

Man, what a masterpiece. Sorry for the fanboyism guys
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Hello, Dexter Morgan

Eh, Proto Man is an unknown. Marth is nothing more than high fodder, anyway. He got beat 58-42 by Donkey Kong in 2007. Snake > Sephy is unlikely, but not impossible.

The one thing I really cannot understand is why so many people are taking Snake > Sephy and even Snake > Cloud, but almost no one is talking about Samus > Cloud. Samus is roughly equal to Snake, and she even beat Snake in 2006. Sure, Snake was more impressive in the four-way matches, but that is largely because of the Noble Nine and the other elites, Snake is the most independent of SFF. Can you think of any other Noble Nine or elite character who is not from a old-school Nintendo/Sega system or from a Squaresoft game?

Because board 8 is a huge Snake fanboy pit?
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Because board 8 is a huge Snake fanboy pit?

Rightly so, because Snake is all sorts of awesome. Not Sephiroth awesome though. That's right.

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Hello, Dexter Morgan

Well yeah I didn't say he wasn't great or anything, I love Snake. More than Sephiroth or so much that I want him to beat him? No. But I don't give a crap about Samus at all, and a lot of people don't. Certainly nowhere near the amount of support Snake has anyway.
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I am looking forward to seeing Cloud/Chris and Samus/Jill. Jill Valentine should be slightly stronger than Chris Redfield and if Cloud finds a way to embarrass himself again, looks like Samus>Cloud isn't a far-fetched idea.
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Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times"

Man, look at all these Seph fanboy's running damage control.

Snake's got this.
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Now this is entertainment!

From: MetricTrout | #252
Eh, Proto Man is an unknown. Marth is nothing more than high fodder, anyway. He got beat 58-42 by Donkey Kong in 2007. Snake > Sephy is unlikely, but not impossible.

The one thing I really cannot understand is why so many people are taking Snake > Sephy and even Snake > Cloud, but almost no one is talking about Samus > Cloud. Samus is roughly equal to Snake, and she even beat Snake in 2006. Sure, Snake was more impressive in the four-way matches, but that is largely because of the Noble Nine and the other elites, Snake is the most independent of SFF. Can you think of any other Noble Nine or elite character who is not from a old-school Nintendo/Sega system or from a Squaresoft game?

Capcom has some pretty darn strong characters that resist SFF, ok Megaman, Megaman X and Ryu are old school, but the Dante is a fine example of a near elite who only ever suffers from badass capcom LFF, so it's not even proper SFF and after round 2 we'll get a much better reading on what RE5 has actually done for these RE guys.
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Shakes Fist!

christ. So many REGULARS jumping on this snak/samus bandwagon. You guys are in for a serious reality check. This isn't Mario, it's members of the clinkeroth brigade. In 1 on 1, theyre untouchable outside of it. 4ways have damaged your guys senses.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

Then why didn't Cloud take Ridley to the cleaners? I think Cloud will edge past Samus all the same, but it's not an unreasonable pick either way.

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Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Ridley is stronger than we gave him credit for? It's highly likely he boosted since the villain contest. He's had a decent amount of exposure in top quality games.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

It's not like Snake blew out Proto-Man to make him look like Tanner either.
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Man, look at all these Seph fanboy's running damage control.

Snake's got this.

It can't be damage control when there still doesn't exist a single shred of evidence that Snake can beat him. It's just a response to this incessant Snake fanboyism that's plagued board 8 ever since that bogus 2008 final.

On a different note, Seph has now exceeded Cloud's % against Ridley. Don't know what quite to make of that seeing as Marth is almost certainly stronger than Ridley.

Also, for the record. Marth > Protoman easily imo.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

FFVII fans are just lulling everyone into a sense of security, making them believe cloud is vulnerable and when crunch time comes, they'll come in masses to vote for cloud and sending everyone back into despair.

But yeah the Cloud match is weird and we'll get better readings as the rounds go on.
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Shakes Fist!

Protoman has had far less exposure than Ridley or Marth, and judging from Ridley's performance on Cloud I would currently say Marth > Ridley > Protoman.

Of course, I'm not really sure what that means. Sephiroth used to look stronger than Cloud and people were convinced he was before they met. It's obvious he isn't; picture could be a factor here since Cloud got KH crap and Sephiroth got his actual FF7 shot.
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@vcharon: Well, I'll admit that I used to anti-vote FF7 all the time, but after watching somebody play through the game on YouTube I immediately understood all the reasons for the praise. So I stand by my opinions: there's no reason why people should anti-vote FF7 but not Super Mario or Legend of Zelda. You want to say that FF7 has aged badly? Well, can't we come up with reasons why Mario 64/Ocarina/MGS/Half-Life/StarCraft/Pokemon RBY/RE/SotN/GE/whatever else have aged badly? You want to criticize FF7 because it didn't make much gameplay change over FF6? Ocarina didn't change the story much from Link to the Past, Mario 64 lacks any motive, MGS has too many cutscenes, yadda yadda yadda you can think of flaws for most anything. I really have to understand what's so special about Final Fantasy in general that it has to get anti-voted in every match. Good god. If anything, I would think Snake and Sonic to be big anti-voting magnets as well: in the former case due to the nature of his games and in the latter case due to the degrading status of his newer games. If we want to anti-vote something, anti-vote Super Smash games, not FF7! Geez!

Okay, sorry for the flaming, and I hope this post does not get deleted due to a reason like that.

As far as the current match goes, I'd probably take Marth to beat Protoman, but not by any particularly big numer or something (not even 55%). Marth being weaker than, or even having roughly equal strength compared to Ridley would be weird considering how Fire Emblem finished ahead of Metroid in the series contest x-stats. Likewise Cloud/Ridley suggests Ridley > Gordon Freeman, which is again weird considering that Half-Life 2 finished far ahead of any Metroid game in the games contest x-stats, plus then Metroid Prime > Half-Life > Super Metroid and all three are close together. I dunno what to say. I'd probably take Marth > Protoman > Ridley, but who knows at this point?

And as far as "if it weren't for villains contest stigma Ridley would be considered strong", we all know why Ridley was weak in the first place: because in his debut the only games that labeled him by his name were Super Smash Bros. Melee and Metroid Prime, meaning that he lacks name value, and then Metroid is a very niche series that's not about character development. Heck, I wouldn't even take the franchise to defeat Resident Evil or Warcraft on this site, though it may be able to edge out ahead of Sonic/Mega Man. I'm not sure here.

It's not damage control when FF7 is no longer fully transitive. It gets anti-voted early, then rises to heaven in every match it's in now (it should be noted Snake had the same problem against Proto). Direct X-stat comparisons with FF7 characters makes about as much sense as using the 2007 final -- the one where L-Block had a 1300 vote lead on Link in 10 minutes -- to extrapolate that entire contest's stats.
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It can't be damage control when there still doesn't exist a single shred of evidence that Snake can beat him.

Other than the fact that Snake's got a winning record against him...!

On a different note, Seph has now exceeded Cloud's % against Ridley. Don't know what quite to make of that seeing as Marth is almost certainly stronger than Ridley.

Stronger than red streak ugly unrecognizable Ridley, yeah. That Brawl pic of Ridley almost certainly helped him. At least that's what I think.
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Hey LMS don't bother.If you say on this site that the LOZ games are the best games ever and anyone that doesn't agree with this is stupid it is normal and logical.But if you say that:<I believe FF7 was a good game>you are a fanboy and stupid and whenever you say doesn't matter.Same with Halo series,if you say that Quake,Half-Life,Killzone,Doom are really great FPS that is okay,but if you say:<I find Halo fun to play>you are a stupid fanboy and should burn in Hell.
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so is sephiroth doing 'good'
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iatg

Man, look at all these Seph fanboy's running damage control.

Snake's got this.

Though nothing screams damage control like that guy who insists that Ezio has a chance against Zelda even though Ezio failed to even get 60% on Simon Belmont. One COULD argue Simon booosted, but I'm not really buying into that. Instead, I think that that was Ezio putting up a turd-worthy performance.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

From: Fayt_Esteed | #272
Man, look at all these Seph fanboy's running damage control.

Snake's got this.

Though nothing screams damage control like that guy who insists that Ezio has a chance against Zelda even though Ezio failed to even get 60% on Simon Belmont. One COULD argue Simon booosted, but I'm not really buying into that. Instead, I think that that was Ezio putting up a turd-worthy performance.

lolz you've heard the last of him hyping that, just like when Snake looks bad he'll jump off that wagon too.
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Haha damage control, that's cute. Sephiroth is going to plow Snake.
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Hello, Dexter Morgan

LMS:

The thing about FF7 is, most FF fans disagree on which game is the "best." FF7 gets the spotlight, but there are many other fans, like old-school FF6 fans, who think FF7 is overrated or is inferior to their favorite game. The FF games overall are so different from each other that there are various factions within the fanbase itself, and it's that split that leads FF fans to anti-vote FF7, since FF7 is easily the most-recognized and most-esteemed FF game in the series, even if a lot of fans disagree with that.

On the other hand, take a series like the Mario platformers. While there may be debate about whether, say, SMB3 or World is the superior game (SMB3 for life baby), pretty much any Mario fan will agree that both are awesome games and pretty much love every Mario platformer that's come out (with Sunshine and possibly fake-SMB2 being exceptions, though even those games have fans, especially SMB2). If someone loves SMB3, chances are they love SMW as well. There's not nearly the split in the Mario fanbase, or hell, any Nintendo franchise that the FF series has. Both companies work so that every game in their franchises is quality (with exceptions, hello FF2 and post-64 Star Fox), but most Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. games are similar to each other, even when you factor in 2D vs 3D, while FF7 took the FF series in a new direction that many fans didn't like, not to mention games like FF8 where the fanbase is heavily divided between loving it and hating it.

So that's why Nintendo games aren't as anti-voted. Also helps the characters that Mario, Link, Samus etc. keep appearing in their franchises while characters like Cloud, Tidus, and Kefka only get one mainstream FF game and spinoffs like Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia.
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Not Wylvane

Snake has never beaten Sephiroth without Cloud's help, and FF7 has a way of SFFing Metal Gear Solid into the ground.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
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I'm still skeptical that Snake's going to come close to Sephiroth. Remember that steroid-Snake went from losing to Samus to barely beating a SFFed-Sephiroth in the site's first four-way a scant few days later. And beating SFFed-Sephiroth isn't exactly a huge achievement, considering Samus did it while SFFed by Link (http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2923) and even Kirby beat down SFFed-Sephiroth worse than he beat down Sonic, going from 37.5% on normal Sephiroth to 58% on SFFed Sephiroth. ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3303 and http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3305).

All this shows is that Sephiroth looks like complete ass when stuck with Cloud in a four-way situation. I don't see L-Block's and Kirby's bandwagons propelling them to their god-like numbers this contest, either. I'm finding Samus > Cloud more likely at this point since Prince has a little strength and Samus blew his ass out, but even then, that's making assumptions based on Round 1 with near-fodder.

Cloud's going to kill Samus, Sephiroth's going to kill Snake, and we'll get the usual Link/Cloud final barring Missingno being beastly enough to kill Crono and go on a joke-filled rampage to win it all (Probability of happening: .01%).
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Not Wylvane

And need I remind you the last time we saw Sephiroth in 1v1, when he did this to Mario in his biggest year yet?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2130
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Not Wylvane

Gordan Freeman over Sephiroth
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"OBJECTION!"- Phoenix Wright

Sephiroth actually outdid that percentage on Mario in their 4-way match (with Fox and Big Boss getting destroyed). The only time he's shown a hint of weakness has been with Cloud in the match.
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KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest.

Match LVIII: (8) Vincent Valentine vs. (9) Guybrush Threepwood

Information

Name: Vincent Valentine
Game/Series: Final Fantasy VII
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 4

Name: Guybrush Threepwood
Game/Series: The Secret of Monkey Island
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Analysis

8/9 matches are suppose to be relatively close matches, not contenders for the biggest blowout of the contest. With all of the top seeds being forced to go against at worst regular fodder the terrible fodder in this contest have had the luxury of going against significantly weaker opponents. Vincent is considered to be one of the strongest non-Noble Nine character while Guybrush has stunk up the contest more times than anyone besides CATS.

Even Final Fantasy VII feels the squeeze when it comes to nominating multiple characters. Besides Cloud and Sephiroth everyone is under seeded, even two characters needed the vote-in in order to reach the contest itself. Vincent being an 8 seed isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but his bracket position is terrible. Put him in the Chaos or Heart division and I’m sure a lot of people would have been excited. All that he has is to see whether or not he gets the blowout of the division.

To make matters worse for Guybrush his match is during the day. Guybrush is loved in Europe, if this was a European site Guybrush would be a decent mid-card. Last contest 30% of Guybrush’s votes came from Europe which is impressive considering only about 15% of the overall total comes from there. With less Europeans voting in the day Guybrush will likely feel the pain.

There is a shed of light in all of this; Monkey Island has been released on the Wii and Xbox360 though online games have never brought much of a boost to characters. It didn’t even do that well in the GotY poll. I believe Vincent will get the blowout of the contest and quite easily as a matter of fact.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Vincent Valentine > Guybrush Threepwood

charmander6000’s Prediction: Vincent wins, 83.06% - 16.94%

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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 45/54 - Today's Winners: Revan and Squall

Guybrush is going to break 30% WESTERN BOOST BABY!

I hope we remove former champs next contest, including Snake as 2006 male-bracket winner (or as 2010 champ!) which would make the next contest up in the air. We can even make another ToC for it!

Link
Sephiroth

Cloud
Samus

Mario
Snake

(Winner)
L-Block

Cloud/Samus is kind of a waste seeing as we'll be getting that this contest, but I think Mario/Snake would be more interesting than Samus/Snake unless Snake is back to 2006 levels, plus I never want to see a Cloud/Mario rematch if only so we'll always have Mario > Cloud in 1v1, but that's just me.

Of course, this is an invitation to post your own ToC bracket!
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Not Wylvane

even Kirby beat down SFFed-Sephiroth worse than he beat down Sonic, going from 37.5% on normal Sephiroth

This is actually quite alarming. That's approximately what Sonic was projected to get on Kirby in 2006.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Guybrush... I fail to see why someone who's been proven to be Tanner-level gets allowed to stink it up in these contests over and over again.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

From: red sox 777 | #283
even Kirby beat down SFFed-Sephiroth worse than he beat down Sonic, going from 37.5% on normal Sephiroth

This is actually quite alarming. That's approximately what Sonic was projected to get on Kirby in 2006.

If there was any Smash veteran that had a good reason to boost from Brawl, it was Kirby. This was also when bandwagoned Kirby supposedly made his presence known, though I'm now curious just how much of this was really bandwagoning.

So Kirby's supposed to get around 37.5% on Sonic in 2006? Huge deficit to overcome, and even with a huge Sonic drop and potential Brawl boost, who knows if Kirby can pull that off in 1v1. But that's what makes the upcoming match so awesome, assuming Ganondorf doesn't beat Sonic first!
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Not Wylvane

Whoever made the great Bacondorf picture with Loz:OoT-Ganon in the background showing off his first with the Triforce...that picture's good enough for me to say Sonic's sprite won't save him. I want to see how Ganon does on Ken first, but the sprite-round may not be very safe for Sonic.

Sephiroth with 94.77%.
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T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png

I don't think Seph will get that much. Marth is pretty known on GameFAQs, so I'm sure that alone will lower Seph's prediction.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Also, since I've been away for most of the match, what do we think about Sephiroth beating Marth worse than Cloud beat Ridley? That means Sephiroth > Cloud (nope), Ridley > Marth (whoa), or Cloud's the new king of anti-votes (haha).
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T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png

If there was any Smash veteran that had a good reason to boost from Brawl, it was Kirby.

How come?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

XMFD God I love that the Snake fanboys are trying to spin this to say that he's got a chance.

I cannot wait to watch you all whine and moan when Sephiroth destroys your tactical espionage pansy.
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"I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo
http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg

Extrapolating Sephiroth through Sonic and then Auron in that match produces pretty scary results for Seph too, although not as bad as going through Kirby. Assuming a constant Auron from 2006 to 2008, Sephiroth gets....51.87% on 2006 Snake. I don't really trust that match, but I wouldn't be too surprised if Seph has lost a step, in indirect strength as well as in direct matchups, relative to Cloud since 2005.

Though of course this current match is telling us just the opposite.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Yeah, today's a pretty wonderful performance from him, and this will be the clearest match we'll see him in before he faces Solid, too (even if Crono doesn't get SFF'd, I always feel a little skepticism in FF7/CT-matches). That said, I would have thought Sephiroth would be losing a bit more pep in his step over the years. He went from possibly beating Cloud in 2002 and has seemingly lost ground in comparison to him nearly every year (expect 2005, maybe -- I don't have time to check). With FF7 clearly aging in BGE2, I figured Seph is getting to the point where age should start to matter a bit more.
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T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png

He's not really even lost much percentage during the morning hours either.
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Sephiroth went from 48% on Cloud in 2k3, to 44% in 2k4 and then 47% through their matches on Link in 2k5. Every end match for Sephiroth since then has been a 4-way with Cloud in it.
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KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest.

*wakes up, sees +71% on Marth*

http://i45.tinypic.com/16gepu1.png

Keep on spinning, Snake > Sephiroth backers.
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Currently not on the CBVIII Leaderboard V_V
Dante > Cloud: ITS HAPPENING

Snake really doesn't need any spin to stand up to Seph. In his first fourway poll with Cloud/Sephiroth in 2006, he barely slipped by him. In the second in 2008, he went the distance against CLOUD. Snake 2k8 was massively stronger than Snake 2k6. He'll be fine.
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turnturnturn your brain in
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg

Snake really doesn't need any spin to stand up to Seph. In his first fourway poll with Cloud/Sephiroth in 2006, he barely slipped by him. In the second in 2008, he went the distance against CLOUD. Snake 2k8 was massively stronger than Snake 2k6. He'll be fine.

Do you just not believe in the bandwagon effect or something? There's really no way for Sephiroth to lose to Snake.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Vincent Valentine 30.77%

4
Guybrush Threepwood 69.23%

9
TOTAL VOTES 13

oh you guys
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Moltar Status: Bracket: Revan > Terra (48/54)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/

Vincent Valentine 37.5%

6
Guybrush Threepwood 62.5%

10
TOTAL VOTES 16
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the FFVII board vote never disappoints
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